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Obama Bags Nobel Prize (My @$$ !)

Posted 28 months ago|51 comments|662 views
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Rudi Stettner
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I checked my vital signs to see if I was dreaming. I checked to see if anyone might have tampered with the water supply. But it's true. President Barack Hussein Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize.

For criticising America at every opportunity, for sucking up to every human rights violator at every opportunity, but most of all for gazing earnestly into his teleprompter, President Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize.

To say that Obama has achieved nothing would be a lie. He has actually shown beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt the total and absolute worthlessness of this prize. Yasir Arafat was at least great in his awfulness. Jimmy Carter merited the prize through the nadir of ineptitude that has been achieved by few since.

Barack Obama is a total rookie. He has thankfully failed at implementing his dangerous ideas, despite the applause of cutthroat dictators and Eurotrash everywhere. He has set a gold standard for mediocrity. I would congratulate him, but for what?

The Nobel Peace Prize has about as much value as the Zimbabwean Dollar, which trades at trillions to the dollar and falls hourly. The award of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama is a joke with no punch line, just like many of its recipients.

Alfred Nobel, after whom the prize is named, is the inventor of dynamite. Deterrent posession of arms has probably done more to preserve world peace than anything else. I am sure that Mr. Nobel would be puzzled, if not shocked, to see the judgement exercised in his name by the Nobel Peace Prize award committee.

Good sportsmanship would dictate that congratulations are in order. But for what?
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Out Of The Box
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28 months ago: It has become an anti-prize. They can't punish those disagree with with, so they reward those who disagree with those that the Nobel Committee disagree with.

The committee chairman said after awarding the 2002 prize to former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, for his mediation in international conflicts, that it should be seen as a "kick in the leg" to the Bush administration's hard line in the buildup to the Iraq war.
Five years later, the committee honored Bush's adversary in the 2000 presidential election, Al Gore, for his campaign to raise awareness about global warming.

"Rather than recognizing concrete achievement, the 2009 prize appeared intended to support initiatives that have yet to bear fruit: reducing the world stock of nuclear arms, easing American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthening the U.S. role in combating climate change."

markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: I agree it's premature to give Obama the award but I think the Norwegians were basically giving America the prize for not continuing down the unilateralist, destructive and bankrupting moon beam Bush path.
28 months ago: People conversant with the situation say that President Obama has done something. But when people who productively work toward peace say good things, and naysayers say bad things, you've get a clue.

A Taliban spokesperson, speaking from an unknown location (see my rave for a link) said things similar to the nay sayers, here. I'll draw my own conclusions.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
28 months ago: The Nobel Peace prize does not reflect Obama's accomplishments, but rather his change in attitude. It represents an improvement in our relationship with the rest of the world. Most of the world likes the direction Obama has chosen to steer the country. We have now chosen a path in which we actually support international efforts, institutions, agreements, and laws. It is a change from unilateralism, where we are the cops of the world, telling everyone else how things are going to go, to a multilateralism in which we are asking the other countries of the world to take more responsibility for their own welfare. This path will lead to more peace and the Peace Prize is an acknowledgment by the world community that Obama is headed in the right direction.
28 months ago: Al

You, mark and terry are funny.

Obamabaffoonarama is becoming more and more like Jimmy Carter every day.

Phew! and not too soon too.

28 months ago: Redstateguy, you are the single most lovably clueless person I know. If there's nothing else I can rely on, I know I can come here every day and find your comments about how Obama's going down in flames, or no one agrees with him, or the people are angry about his policies, or blah blah blah. And every day, you present the same complete lack of evidence for these assertions.

Meanwhile, in reality, Obama's job approval ratings continue to be high, and the vast majority of the public continues to agree with most of his policy stances. For instance, on health care, 61% support public financing for health care (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1382), and that's as of yesterday.

If you want to stop coming off as completely out of touch with reality, redstateguy, you really need to stop dismissing that reality when you don't like it. It must burn your britches something fierce that Obama and his policy goals are popular, but they are. Denying that they're popular is like telling someone who says he likes chocolate that he's wrong.

Look at the other numbers in that poll; the GOP is slightly less popular than raw sewage right now. If you guys don't want to be dismissed as the village idiots come election time in 2010, you really need to stop putting all your energy into convincing yourselves that Obama is unpopular, and start putting your energy into convincing other people that Obama and the liberal Democrats in Congress are wrong.

Shouting to the world that Obama=Jimmy Carter, all evidence to the contrary, just makes you look kind of crazy.
markbyrn
markbyrn
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28 months ago: Soct
...Destructive and bankrupting? Obama owns that too Mark...

Wow, you said "too" and so you agree that Bush was destructive and bankrupting - that's an important acknowledgment!!

Now since I'm not a blind eye partisan, if Obama does the same things such as unilaterally launching a trillions dollar war under false premises, and makes no effort during his term to reduce the national debt (instead doubling and quadrupling it like hypocrite Reagan and Bush 1 & 2 did), I'll be happy to criticize.
28 months ago: @scotmanster

"Obama's Job approval ratings? How about Americas unemployed rating HN?"

As soon as Obama time-travels back to 2003 and gets the housing bubble really going, that'll be his fault. Alternatively, if he allows his job-creation policies to be blocked by people who have knee-jerk reactions to government doing anything whatsoever other than invading other countries, that will also be his fault.

"Nobel Peace prize does not reflect Obama's accomplishments Altrist? Am I missing something here? I thought the noble peace prize went the Einsteins of this world?"

That would be the Nobel prize in physics. There's more than one Nobel prize.
28 months ago: Feburary 1, 2009. How long on the job?
28 months ago: @scotmanster

"What burns my britches is you buy that his goals are popular."

So, who should I listen to? Scientific polls done repeatedly on the topic by dozens of different reputable polling firms? Or you? Which one's more credible?

"It is kinda like the 9/12 march when all the other media said their where only 50,000 at the march but when there where a million that attended."

No, only about 50,000 attended. Have you ever been to D.C.? I have. The Mall is enormous. It takes a crowd the size of, say, the Promisekeepers in 1997, or the inauguration this year, to fill it. When there are that many people coming into one city, the logistics of organizing it and providing transportation to everyone is a nightmare. It takes months of planning. By contrast, the Tea Party folks didn't even have a permit to use the Mall, yet had no problem squeezing into the Capitol grounds. They didn't even stretch past 3rd St.

Do the math. Inauguration day? The crowd stretches all the way to the Washington Monument. Tea Party day? The crowd doesn't even reach the Mall. It would be physically impossible to cram a million people into the area around the Capitol building.

@TCG

No matter how long Obama is on the job, he won't be the cause of a recession that started before he took office. If he screws up, then in a couple years we can certainly say he contributed to the problem after the fact.
28 months ago: @scotmanster

"You know what I mean HN by noble prize and Einsteins of the world."

Yeah, but it was more fun to tease you a little about the different prizes. ;) The Peace prize goes to whoever "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding of peace congresses." They don't say anything about opinions regarding the intelligence of the recipient, which is what I know you were trying to get at.

"The housing bubble is causing unemployment? You sure are buying right into it all."

Frankly, if you can't see the correlation between the bubble bursting and skyrocketing unemployment, you don't belong in a conversation about economics. I'm sorry, but it's true. Any laissez-faire capitalist ought to be able to wax poetic about how different industries rely on each other. For instance, small businesses that rely on loans from banks to make payroll go out of business if the banks go out of business after getting stuck with worthless mortgage-backed securities. More defaults on mortgages -> More banks left holding worthless packages of loans -> More banks folding -> Less credit available for small businesses.

Seriously, individual industries don't exist in a vacuum.
28 months ago: Wakeup call. 12 days to get nominated. That is how long he was on the job. This is nothing more than an outrageous "signing bonus". It isn't our side that won't admit truth.

How about his truth.

Theodore Roosevelt (L) won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1906; Woodrow Wilson (R)won in 1919. Barack Obama is now the 3rd sitting US president to win the award. Fine company.
28 months ago: "Believe what you want to believe."

Prove me wrong. I've put up. Your turn.
28 months ago: @TCG

Nomination isn't the same as selection. I'd be willing to bet every President since Wilson has been nominated, but they don't select the winner until October.
28 months ago: Does that mean you can't counter my points, but don't believe me anyway? OK, then. Kinda silly, if you ask me.
28 months ago: Heynnnnn.

Respecting how you and your fellow socialists view Obamarama and the world, I admit I am completely clueless. We agree on that one.

I never once said obamarama is going down in flames. I said he better go down in flames. I also said he was a baffoon with a chip on his shoulder, but he was that before you fools elected him. (You are likewise an affectionate fool too.)

And if my evidence smacked you in the face, you wouldn't see it. Would you?

You may be right about obamarama's job approval ratings in the peoples republic of oregon or san fransisco or some other place to which I never need to visit. But in my neck of the woods, he is, well, he is Jimmy Carter.

If 61% if Americans want his health care, why is it not yet law? Huh? For crying out loud heynnnnnn, you have enough demwhit votes in Congress to tell repubes to stick an anal themometer in their ears. What's up with that?

28 months ago: What burns my britches something fierce is all the sacrifice that many, many, many Americans made to create and save our liberty is going to be abruptly flushed down the obamarama toilet with the support of a bunch of disingenuous, "look at me", "look at me", "I love myself" Algur types.

It's the previous, immeasurable sacrifices given for our freedoms and liberty being poured down a dirty drain like a bottle of MD 20-20 that chaps my butt. And what's being taken from my children.

I could care less if other fools follow obamarama off a cliff.

So, you're right on target. Obamarama burns my britches something fierce.

And I gave up a long, long ago caring one bit who our culture deemed worthy of praise and admiration. I never dreamed that would get someone elected President....but it did.

I agree the repubes suck back too; however, they are the only hope there is to salvage our liberty. Until somebody else shows up, I have to go there.

Heynnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. If you get anything through your liberal/socialist skull, I well understand obamarama is popular. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON HE WAS ELECTED!

And he and his socialists hoards, including Jimmy Carter, are dead wrong.

Got it?
28 months ago: If your evidence smacked me in the face, I'd be very surprised. In all our arguments, redstateguy, you haven't once actually brought up any evidence. You're pretty fond of sweeping statements, though.

Now as for Obama's popularity, your "neck of the woods" is likely minuscule, in regards to population. We outnumber you by a fair bit, these days. That may not jibe with whatever is passing for common sense in your "neck of the woods" these days, but it's true.

And yes: 61%. Passing sweeping, large legislation is difficult, and for a while the screamers on your side of the fence managed to drag and delay things. But 61% want a public health insurance system, like it or not. And at this point, with the progressive caucus and 51 Democratic Senators finally lining up behind it, it will happen. The other 9 will eventually fall in line, too, or be forced to support a Republican filibuster, which they won't, because they want to keep their jobs.

Finally, I have to ask: What precise liberties have been taken away from you? Please be specific.
28 months ago: heynnnnn.

I'm not buying the 61%, for what little it is worth. Dingy Harry Reid is preparing a (dishonest) parliamentary maneuver to only require 51 votes. There's only one reason for him to do that.

Liberties. Hhhmm.. do you have a while?
Freedom to chose not to have health insurance.
Freedom to keep all the income I earn.
Freedom to decide to pay my doctor out of my own pocket.
Freedom to decide to have a medical procedure done and have it done the next day.
Freedom to charge what I want to charge someone for healing a hang nail.
Freedom to decide who I want to treat or who my doctor is.
Freedom to chose not to stop a beating heart through an abortion.
Freedom from the federal government.
Freedom from pointy head, pencil pushing, DC bureaucrats.
Freedom to decide to smoke cigarettes, cigars, pipes or the cat.
Freedom to drink beer and eat something fattening.
Freedom to decide to not brush my teeth one night.
Freedom to put on some weight.
Freedom from having to pay for lazy people's health care.
Freedom to have my money to spend how I want to spend it.
This could go on and on and on.

But you don't like freedom and liberty, do you heynnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
28 months ago: But redstateguy,
After this version gets passed, in ten years, only 25 million people will still be without health insurance, instead of 30 million. I just don't think it will be the same people that are uninsured today.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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28 months ago: Says a lot about motive, hmmmm?
28 months ago: "Freedom to chose not to have health insurance."

Would you agree not to go to the emergency room if you have a medical emergency, then? After all, using the emergency room costs everyone else money if you can't pay for it. But that aside, the Baucus bill, which is the one that has the mandate in it, won't be what passes at this point. It's dead in the water. After the health care bill does pass, you'll still be able to choose no health insurance if you don't want any. I understand you're already using socialized medicine though, redstateguy... Would you drop it on principle?

"Freedom to keep all the income I earn."

You're welcome to move to a country that has no taxes, then. The only one I know of off the top of my head is the failed anarchist state of Somalia. Good luck.

"Freedom to decide to pay my doctor out of my own pocket."

Even the lousy Baucus bill doesn't stop you from doing that.

"Freedom to decide to have a medical procedure done and have it done the next day."

Again, nothing in any version of the bill will stop you from doing that, assuming your doctor deems it medically necessary. Right now, your HMO can *deny* you needed procedures against your doctor's wishes... Oh, except you're on government assistance, so that doesn't apply to you.

"Freedom to charge what I want to charge someone for healing a hang nail."

You are so obviously not a doctor it's funny.

"Freedom to decide who I want to treat or who my doctor is."

Nothing in any of the bills forces you to choose a different doctor.

"Freedom to chose not to stop a beating heart through an abortion."

??? That's a totally different topic. What does that have to do with anything?

Continued...
28 months ago:

"Freedom from the federal government."

Again, you're looking at Somalia.

"Freedom from pointy head, pencil pushing, DC bureaucrats."

Who you've probably never even met.

"Freedom to decide to smoke cigarettes, cigars, pipes or the cat."

No one's trying to stop you, long as you're doing it where it's not gonna cause anyone else health problems. What you poison yourself with is your own business, as far as I'm concerned.

"Freedom to drink beer and eat something fattening."

Ditto.

"Freedom to decide to not brush my teeth one night."

Ditto.

"Freedom to put on some weight."

Ditto.

"Freedom from having to pay for lazy people's health care."

I'm guessing you don't make enough money to actually receive a tax increase under Obama's plan.

"Freedom to have my money to spend how I want to spend it."

Again, you're looking for a lawless country without a funded government.

"This could go on and on and on."

And yet you failed to enumerate a single liberty that is actually under threat.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: HNN,
...No, only about 50,000 attended... Do the math...

You really must stop with this quantifiable evidence; if Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or Lou Dobbs said it was a million, it's a million regardless of any evidence to the contrary.
28 months ago: Like I said. Nothing more than a "signing bonus".

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i7hP2g0kyiepKq9-cVavDQwIQpAAD9B7LRRG0

BANGKOK — The United States was heavily criticized Friday at the U.N. climate talks in Bangkok for failing to offer emission cuts or financing for developing countries — both considered crucial to reaching a global warming pact this year.

The Bangkok talks ended just as it was announced that President Barack Obama had won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, for among other things strengthening the U.S. role in combatting climate change. U.N. climate chief Yvo de Boer said he hoped the award would spur progress when the U.S. delegation arrives in Copenhagen in December for crucial climate negotiations.

Obama is set to received his award in Oslo on Dec. 10 — just days after the climate talks start.

"I hope this encourages him to come to Copenhagen with an ambitious target," de Boer said. "We need that."
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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28 months ago: TCG
"encourages him to come to Copenhagen with an ambitious target,"

I never thought of it that way. He's being manipulated into living up to an award that he he neither deserved nor earned. With an ego like Obama's, flattery and praise is the best way to get him to submit. They have set the bar where they want it, and now Obama has to meet their challenge, or risk worldwide embarrassment.
28 months ago: Forget cooking the cake. Processing? Eggbeater of centrifuge?
28 months ago: "Achmed da nut job." Chi town. Shoe shine. And you guys wonder why so many people think the root of the criticism towards Obama is racism. Yeesh.
28 months ago: Maybe because you do not get it? That would be you insulting yourself.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
28 months ago: Achmed da nut job = Ahmadinezhād (very clever, I might add)
Chi town = Chicago
Shoe shine = literally, to shine someone's shoes with rag and polish. Figuratively, to kneel before someone, or perform a debasing service in an attempt to curry favor.

Nothing racist about it, unless you are applying racial stereotypes.
28 months ago: And a white comedian in black face is just making jokes, right? When the world saw the signs with "jokes" about Obama at the teabagger protest, you guys were shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn that some might see comparing Obama to a monkey, calling him a "lyin' African," and other such classless behaviors as racist.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
28 months ago: Noni
Just admit it. When you hear the words "shoe shine" and "Chi town", the first images that pop into your head are racial stereotypes. Then you bring up signs used in the rallies as your proof that these comments could be racist.

musicYou know what the image of Obama as a monkey conjures up for me? An organ grinder's little trained monkey, cavorting about to get the attention of the masses, so they will listen to the organ grinder's music. Does that sound racist to you?

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