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Musings On Spending And The Constitution

Posted 8 months ago|8 comments|252 views
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BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
In February of last year (2010 for the calendarially challenged) over at NewsRealBlog.com there was a piece titled

New York Times Conspiracy Nuts Attack Tea Party Movement As A Right-Wing Uprising

Among the responders was one "Norris Hall" who opined:
"I think Tea Party is a joke

They want to cut spending ...except when it comes to defense. Supporting fiscal responsibility and strong defense is like an alcoholic promising to cut out the hard liquor but keep drinking beer.

If you want fiscal responsibility you take a meat ax first to the biggest spending items...then tackle the smaller ones.

Cutting , say, 17 billion in pork projects to make much of a dent unless you are willing to cut into the pentagon's 600 billion dollar a year price tag."
In the process of answering him I began to muse on the proper role of government as set out in the constitution. I began by advising him that national defense is one of the few legitimate purposes the federal government was supposed to have - at least in the minds of the framers of the constitution. I told him to look to the preamble of the constitution - the document's raison d'ĂȘtre.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
In those few sentences I believe that the founders set out what they considered to be the legitimate functions of government. The Articles of Confederation were hastily written and badly flawed hence they were replaced "in order to form a more perfect Union". From there on the purposes of government were listed as being to "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to [them]selves and [their] Posterity". Until the beginning of the 20th Century presidents ROUTINELY vetoed spending bills that failed to meet the test of falling under one of those headings. Many worthwhile projects were foregone because they only benefited one section of the nation and thus failed to "promote the general Welfare".

So the place to trim the federal budget would be any programs that do not either 1) establish Justice, or 2)insure domestic Tranquility, 3) provide for the common defense, 4) promote the general Welfare or 5) function in some manner so as to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. Bridges to nowhere do not promote the general welfare. Interstate highways do - along with providing for the common defense. Construction of lavish airports that do not even help the people of the area where they are built clearly does not thing to promote the common welfare. A fence along the border(s) would serve a purpose in helping to establish and preserve justice, along with having a legitimate defense purpose. These are but a couple of examples.

The 20th and now the 21st centuries have been times of unprecedented growth of the Federal Government. That growth has been accompanied by deficit spending and skyrocketing national debt . That growth also coincides perfectly with abandonment of the principles of governance that prevailed for the first 125 or so years of the nation's existence. The constitution was ordained and established to LIMIT the central government. It details specific functions and roles for the government to perform and then explicitly limits that government to those -AND ONLY THOSE -roles and function. The 9th amendment specifically and explicitly states that the rights of the people ENUMERATED in the constitution are not all the ONLY rights the people have. The 10th amendment limits the powers of the central government to those specifically delegated to by the Constitution and reserves all others to the States respectively, OR TO THE PEOPLE. Unless some power is specifically prohibited by the constitution to the states then the states have that power BY DEFAULT and without the need of any explicit enumeration. The constitution exists to CONTAIN the central government; to establish boundaries beyond which the central government may - NO! MUST NOT! - go. The founding fathers considered the principle of a controlled and limited central government so important as to devote TWO of the original TEN amendments to establishment and reinforcement of that principle. Of ten amendments, ONE 5TH of them are devoted to keeping the central government "on the reservation" as it were. Just as a retired racing greyhound can easily lose its way if it gets out of its own yard, so the federal government loses its way - I would submit already HAS already lost its way - when it goes outside the constitution.

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Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
8 months ago: Hear, Hear!!
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
8 months ago: Norris Hall was right. If you look at what caused the huge national debt. it was #1 the Bush tax cuts to the rich, # 2 the doubling of defense spending and two wars, one of which was completely unnecessary, and #3 Medicare drug giveaways to big Pharma (corporate welfare).

To get out of the hole you are in, the first thing you do is stop digging.

#1 Return the tax structure to what it was when Clinton had $25o Billion surpluses projected indefinitely into the future, #2 Return the defense budget to 2000 levels (1/2), # 3 cut the cost of medical care in half by doing what every other developed country in the world has done, single payer, Medicare for all health care.

The rest of it is just chump change.

In Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, (Economic Justice means reducing income inequality) insure domestic Tranquility (by providing the people with jobs), provide for the common defense (we no longer have super powers to fight so the military would be better off if we cut out the boondoggles, unnecessary weapons systems, and concentrated on antiterrorism), promote the general Welfare (universal health care, Social Security, and Medicare),
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
8 months ago: The only thing that has caused the huge national debt is #1 Spending more money than the government receives in revenue. That can be broken down into runaway social programs, military overspending and pork.

Clinton was definitely a good manager, but rode the dot com bubble and its associated revenue windfall. Even if the Clinton era tax rates had been kept in place, the added revenue would cover about 1/4th of the current annual deficit, and wouldn't even touch the debt.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
8 months ago: Al,

You figure in the fact that government spending increased by only 7% during Clinton, because he was reigned in by a Republican congress. Yet government spending increased 32% under Bush, and 25% under Reagan. Everyone knows they threw social spending as a bone to gain political support for their other pet projects. Just the same as Obama traded extended tax cuts in favor of his Russian Nuclear Arms Reduction Treaty. The Republicans just haven't done as good a job of reigning in Obama yet.

When the Republicans own the whole show, it seems that government spending goes up, and when the Democrats own the whole show, government spending shoots into orbit. We need a better system of checks and balances than just voting in the feel-good candidates.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
8 months ago: The main reason Bush doubled the National Debt is that he doubled military spending and Medicare spending while at the same time slashing revenue.

When the Republicans forced Obama to extend those Bush tax cuts they essentially doubled Obama's deficit. Those tax cuts are the main cause of our dismal future deficit forecasts. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/...
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
8 months ago: "You are correct Dr. Darko Obama enacted more tax cuts than Bush did in an attempt to stop the economic decline and provide jobs." ------- Altruist http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Left-Behind...


So which is it?
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
8 months ago: Don't bother, Box. By his own admission (see the link in his reply above) he's just parroting progressive talking points. Why think when you can have someone else do your thinking for you, right, Al?
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
8 months ago: So you are taking your replies directly from the progressive talking points now, Al?? Don't you think for yourself. Or do you just let the cool-aide do the talking for you?

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