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McGwire comes clean used steroids

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Finally, even after denials before Congress Mark “I got records by roids” McGwire comes clean about using steroids during his record-breaking season.

Moreover, why might you ask did he finally break his silence about the past? Because he wants to get back into baseball as a hitting coach of all things for his last team of record the St. Louis Cardinals under one of his biggest coaching supporters Tony La Russa.

One might ask why this is even a topic for me but as a long time poster about sports and a long time believer in honesty among winners, record-holders in sports this has got to be a big issue considering he wants into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

If I had a vote, he would neither get on the ballot nor ever get an opportunity to put his bust into the hall for any reason. There is no acceptable apology especially after testifying before Congress and stating things such as, “I am not here to talk about the past.”

His coming clean now is about pleasing the commissioner so no one waives a big red flag about his becoming a hitting coach because clearly his usage that no one could have doubted. Based upon his size at the time as a hitting coach he could easily lead young players down the same path ruining their futures because of his use in the past.

I am going on the record as stating I do not want this man used by baseball in any manner especially now that he finally came clean to an extent of course not mentioning whether or not he ever used HGH as well.
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markbyrn
markbyrn
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58 months ago: During the hearings, McGuire didn't come clean but he didn't lie or pretend that he couldn't speak English. Let's remember that when steroid use was all the rage (no pun intended), it's use was considered a crime in the sense of driving one's car over the speed limit.

The HOF question aside, if you say he can't be a hitting coach, than I'd expect you to say that every manager, coach, and higher management type that was complicit in either allowing or encouraging steroid use to be similarly banned from baseball.
58 months ago: There is a difference in a coach who coached Mr. McGwire looking the other way as he poked himself to twice his size than his becoming a coach himself only even admitting wrong doing when he wants to become a coach.

The media surely would have had a feeding frenzy over this coaching position.

His records were not only tainted by his steroid use his profit margin with incentives during that time frame would easily be considered fraud.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
58 months ago: JLK, are you the same guy that believes white sports owners should have the 'total free will choice' not to hire blacks yet you want McGuire nailed to a cross? Is there a discrepancy here?
58 months ago: I believe as far as the interviewing process forcing someone to interview someone they clearly don't want to hire one way or another as ridiculous.

Mr. McGwire is not falling under the same category if they want to hire him so be it. I will still worry that his choices in ethics during his career make me think he might inspire others to commit the same fraud like behavior.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
58 months ago: I don't put McGuire in the same plane as Pete Rose. While Pete was a bald faced liar for near 20 years and would probably repeat his offenses given his gambling addiction, I think McGuire is genuinely sorry and would discourage players from using steroids or otherwise cheating. It's just a hunch - I could be wrong.
58 months ago: I am not saying you're wrong...I am saying that if he was truly sorry he should have come clean the first time he was asked after he had retired instead of the whole, "I'm not interested in talking about the past."

He is only coming clean now because he wants a job in Major League Baseball and he might otherwise be drug through the media wringer by the Commissioner.
58 months ago: I am apparently not the only one who wants to condemn him for his decision...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-mcgwirenew011110&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
58 months ago: Here's what Hank Aaron said:

"He has my forgiveness," Aaron told USA TODAY. "If that's all that stands in the way between him being inducted into Cooperstown, we should all forgive him."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2010-01-11-mcgwire-reaction_N.htm

58 months ago: Hank Aaron had to say that he had already gave Barry Bonds a pass he had no choice:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/02/13/2009-02-13_hank_aaron_says_barry_bonds_is_still_bas-3.html
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
58 months ago: Barry hasn't made a mea-culpa or been convicted yet but Aaron had similar sentiment for A-Rod in the same article you cited:

"It's just a sad chapter in the game to have one of your star players come forward and say he's been guilty of this, but Alex did admit guilt," Aaron said. "To me, I don't think there is anything else he could do. I don't think any of us ever has walked on hallowed ground, that we never committed anything. Alex admitted he made a mistake, you know. That's about all that anybody can do, I guess."

Aaron doesn't have to defend anybody but I'm sure he recognized that steroids use was common place (not just in baseball) and doesn't consider the crime as significant as you think.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
58 months ago: I don’t see the point in “fessing up” now!
58 months ago: He fessed up now because the statute of limitations has run out and he doesn't want the Spring Training Camp for the Cardinals to become a circus since he wants and probably needs a job in baseball.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
58 months ago: So if you thought he was genuinely sorry would it make it a difference to you?

58 months ago: I cannot believe he is absolutely sorry since he could have come out and admitted it long ago but didn't for fear of criminal charges....
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
58 months ago: He doesn’t deserve a job in baseball then.
58 months ago: I agree..And the more they play the interview snippets the more I yell at the television.

He is just another guy who made a mistake trying to find a scapegoat rather than still even after no ability to charge him for anything won't stand up and take total responsibility.

He wanted to admit it in 2005 but he wasn't able to get immunity against prosecution. If he doesn't think he did anything wrong then why not fess up and face the charges?
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
58 months ago: Exactly!
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
58 months ago: And you are right, the more I think about it the more angry I feel about it. Where does he get off thinking that he could lay that on his fans now, without any repercussions? Shameful, really.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
58 months ago: SS, let me offer you a quote of compassion that might temper your anger towards Mr McGwire:

"G-d offers forgiveness to his creatures, because we need to learn to forgive ourselves for our mistakes. Without forgiving ourselves we don’t let go of the past., and we can’t move on to the future."

Do you know who said that?
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
58 months ago: What does this have to do with compassion or religion for that matter? The offense he made is to himself and to his sport and to his fans. This is not a religious matter. Did you not read my rant “Jesus This, Jesus That” I’m not well informed on baseball regulations but if what J Lee said is accurate then he is outside of the legal scope of what he did so my question and resulting indignation remains very relevant. “What’s the point?” I think J Lee was accurate. McGuire needs his job and is trying to diffuse any ensuing powder keg that might be forming so again how does that merit compassion? Is he somewhat injured or distressed from his wrong doing? If anything he is pretty well off; perhaps his fans merit some compassion.
58 months ago: As for the legal issues the former chairman of the committee that did the interviews where he only wanted to talk about the future not the past was on Outside the Lines on ESPN today.

He said something to the fact that the night before the hearings he was trying to get the Federal Attorney General to give McGwire full immunity but he refused that is why supposedly he didn't confess in front of Congress.

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