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Mass Murder

Posted 38 months ago|8 comments|510 views
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Alexander Frost
Rolla, MO
This is copied and pasted from the news 4/4/2009, which sets the stage for my rant.

"On Friday, he barricaded the American Civic Association community center's back door with his car, walked in the front and started shooting with two handguns. Within minutes, a receptionist, 12 immigrants taking a citizenship class and the gunman were dead. Another receptionist, who played dead after she was shot in the abdomen, called 911 to get police to the scene within two minutes.

Zikuski said the injured receptionist stayed on the phone for 90 minutes, "feeding us information constantly," despite a serious wound in the abdomen."


So this gal called the police and they were on the scene in two minutes. Two ****ing minutes. I can just see all the cars driving 100 miles an hour with the lights flashing and the sirens screaming racing to the scene, cops love driving fast, great response time, to bad the response ended as soon as they arrived at the scene. Within minutes the 13 people were dead and the gunman shot himself... within minutes. But they stayed outside and hid behind their cars with their body armor on, holding their assault weapons, while wearing their cool sunglasses for 90 ****ing minutes, talking to this poor gal who had been gut shot that called them for help. They waited until the guy had shot the 13 people, then himself... within minutes, while they hid behind their cars and talked to her for an hour and a half, a ****ing hour and a half, while she was sitting there gut shot. What a bunch of ****ing heroes. What ****ing good did it do for the receptionist to even bother to call them? Or for them to drive a 100 mph to get there in two minutes? They might have just as well walked there or rode bikes and showed up in speedo's, so they could work on their tan while they waited. She should have called them and said they had free hot donuts and blowjobs, come on over. Maybe some of the chicken ****s would have gone in and the guy could have shot them instead of the other 13 people. The ****ing chicken **** cops get paid to get shot at and are carrying guns to defend themselves. Cops. I don't know about you, but I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling after reading about **** like this. They didn't need the cops by the time they went in, they only needed the undertaker. What a ****ing waste of tax dollars. We pay for those ****s to have fancy uniforms, body armor, vehicles and training, so they can give us ****ing traffic tickets and bust drug mules so they can use the money to buy fancier cars and guns. They strut around and act like tough guys to impress the babes, but at the first sign of trouble, they turn into totally worthless chicken ****s. "Serve and Protect", painted on their vehicles. It should say "Hide and Watch".
When you walk around in the jungle, there's a tiger somewhere. Probability might be a million to one against running into that tiger, but that doesn't mean you can walk through the jungle safely 999,999 times, it could happen on your first walk. It's possibility that you should prepare for not probability. Statistics are just numbers used to lull the stupid into a false sense of security. People that say guns should be banned, since the police are protecting us, are the ones that I think are crazy. If this incident doesn't make it abundantly clear, that cops are NOT all the protection we need, I don't know what possibly could. There are 13 more innocent people in the graveyard today, but none of them are cops. If a cop had got killed saving just one of the 13, it would be different.
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TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
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Philadelphia, PA
38 months ago: Although you anger is most certainly substantiated by the deaths at the civic center, protocol makes it quite clear that officers cannot enter the building unless certain circumstances arise. For Example, if they had just stormed the building not knowing where the guy was, he could have killed many more, including cops.

I don't think cops make enough money to go on Kamikaze missions to take down loonies who shoot up immigration centers, they need intel before we can risk their lives. Every life lost matters, including the fat cops in body armor.
Alexander Frost
Alexander Frost
Rolla, MO
38 months ago: In response to "TheLegendTomWing", Our troops go door to door and storm buildings in Iraq where they know the enemy is going to shoot at them, or is shooting at them, all the time. Do you think they are paid that much more than Police Officers to risk their lives? They should know when they take a job to "Protect and Serve" and they get the clues they'll be carrying guns, wearing bulletproof vests and responding to 911 calls that loonies are shooting innocent people, that their job is to take them out, the job requires being in harms way. If they aren't prepared to take the risk or have hit the jelly donuts until they are no longer able, they should start practicing for their true calling "would you like fries with that?". My anger is with the fact that it took an hour and a half for them to go in. Don't you find that a bit troubling? We need to stop sending Marines to Iraq and keep them here to protect our freedom! The Marines would have been there in two minutes and in the building in four. They might not have saved anyone, but at least the gut shot receptionist wouldn't have had to talk to the Police for an hour and a half, she could have been receiving medical attention.
Alexander Frost
38 months ago: This story broke online on VOA yesterday about 4:00. Read it there on a liberal official U.S. website.

Latest:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-04-04-voa15.cfm

How about the three policmen killed in Pittsburg PA?
Let's give that a pass>>>------>?


TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
38 months ago: I have to disagree, the reason police don't just storm buildings is because it could end up with more dead hostages, not just dead cops.

To use you comparison, how many are dead in Iraq? Did we get 'em?

Did we get the loony in the Civic Center? yep. Dead cops? Nope.

Civilians do die, but if they had stormed the building, it just gives the nut job more targets to shoot at. And for all they knew, he could have had a bomb in there.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
38 months ago: Oh and btdubbs welcome to the RantRave Community!
38 months ago: I completely agree with you Tom. Cops have procedures to follow and different training from the marines. It sounds to me like Frost has absolutely no clue what goes on behind the scenes in a situation like that.
Alexander Frost
Alexander Frost
Rolla, MO
38 months ago: In response to "TheLegendTomWing" again. We'll just have to agree to disagree, it's still a free country. "We" didn't get the loony in the Civic Center, the cops didn't get him either, he shot himself. Maybe he mailed them a suicide note, who knows. So no, there weren't any dead cops. I understand the possible hostage situation demands a certain amount of hesitation. But isn't that what all the SWAT teams train and accumulate fancy equipment to deal with? Seems to me like they could have acquired a thermal image of his location in the building, then got the receptionist out and to the hospital. But maybe they were having such a nice conversation with her on the phone, that the hour and a half flew by before they knew it. Yeah, for all they knew, there could have been a bomb in there. What's your point? A lot of brave Fire Fighters and Police Officers died on 911, because they rushed in the building to save lives. There could have been bombs in there, or armed men for all they knew. But they didn't surround the place and hide behind their Fire Engines and Cruisers for an hour and a half, they did their job.
Your statement "To use you comparison, how many are dead in Iraq? Did we get'em?"
I'm not sure what you're asking me, but I don't understand Chinese either. Are you talking about dead Insurgents, or dead US troops? According to your way of thinking, on D-Day, our guys should have just stayed on the ships. That would make for pretty boring War movies and Hitler would be ruling the World. Disagree if you want, this is America and even the stupid and chicken****s are entitled to express their opinions, not that you are either one of course, I'm merely using that as an example to illustrate the latitude of Freedom we enjoy thanks to the bravery of our troops.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
38 months ago: Well, you are correct SWAT does have extensive training, but the point is not for them to use it. "SWAT consists of four elements that work together to solve today's complex issues: Bomb, Special Weapons and Tactics, Crisis Negotiations, and Tactical Medical." their purpose is "to resolve dangerous situations safely, without injury to anyone. It responds to high-risk situations that are outside the normal resources and capabilities of a patrol team." (Citation: http://www.adasheriff.org/Police/SWAT.asp). I only pulled this on because it's very clear, but basically the point of SWAT is to end disturbances without any casualties, whether they be civilian or not. Protocol requires they not enter a situation that could potentially lead to more civilian causalities.

I'm not an expert, but I know they do not have the same protocol as the military. Although both are expected to be ready to die for their respective causes, their procedural differences make them utterly impossible to compare.

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