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Jehovah's Witnesses brainwashing

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Jehovah's Witnesses brainwashing

Propaganda techniques used by the Watchtower Bible Society and arguments used to brainwash followers.

As many history students know the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Jehovah's Witnesses under the second president, Rutherford praised and attempted to woo Hitler. It did not work Hitler persecuted all religions no matter.There is a deeper comparison though with today's modern day Watchtower.

Report on Hitler
His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it. - United States Office of Strategic Services report page 51

Let us compare that to the Methods of The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.


Hitler -
never allow the public to cool off;
The Watchtower Method -
never allow the Witnesses cool off; pump them up calling it zeal and busy door-to-door,

Hitler
never admit a fault or wrong;
The Watchtower Method -
a mixed approach is used called new light and not letting the Witnesses understand they had previously been taught a lie. when in error make the people think they misunderstood.

Hitler
never concede that there may be some good in your enemy;,
The Watchtower Method -
The witnesses are taught everything not taught by them is from Satan


Hitler
never leave room for alternatives;,
The Watchtower Method -
The witnesses are given a black and white thinking ... but often this is still vague and much like the Catholic church teaches that it is a mystery, the witnesses are taught that this food will come in it due season. The witnesses are taught to ask an elder that often avoid the question and redirects their thinking to something else.

Hitler
never accept blame;
The Watchtower Method - the watchtower blames the follower of misunderstanding what was said..

Hitler
concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong;
The Watchtower Method -the elders and the watchtower redirect a person's attention on what a person has been convinced is an error of 'Christendom'. Elders know their flock so this is effective This shames a person of what they previously believed and they stop questioning.

Hitler
People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.
The Watchtower Method -
The big lie. The bigger the better for the Watchtower: Say Jesus came back 'invisibly' in 1914 (whopper) remove the deity of Jesus, remove the cross, remove personal relationship with Jesus, make themselves the go-between.


http://www.bible.ca/jw-hitler.htm

http://www.bible.ca/jw.htm
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63 months ago: What makes Scientology and Jehovah's Witnesses cults in common?

Both have two offensive practices they need to get rid of:

Scientology A.) Rabid irrational rants against psychiatry.
B.) Shunning and demonization of ex members who tried them out but didn't like it.

Jehovah's Witnesses A.) A twisted and deadly opposition against the use of "whole" blood transfusions.
B) Shunning and demonization of ex members who tried them out but didn't like it.

They resolve these and they will be ignored.

That's it!
63 months ago: The Watchtower cult really fast quickie

Came into existence to proclaim Jesus second coming in 1914 which would be the …..well second coming so the end of the world right.

Nothing happened in 1914 except WW1 and of course they had/have a whole spin on how Jesus REALLY DID return in 1914 but invisibly just like in "emperor’s new clothes".
NOW the Watchtower cult cooked up the ‘generations’ thingy saying that the end of the world is still gonna come but will happen in a your/mine ‘generation’ lifetime.

NOW all devout followers work their **** off to door knock and warn the wicked save the meek and ‘contribute all your valuable things to ’Jehovah’ aka his ‘earthly organization’ the Watchtower Society corporation.

NOW advance to the 21st century 2009 and most of the old timers who gave everything to the Watchtower corporation including their retirement funds are dead and cannot speak out about their dreams dashed and their assets plundered.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
63 months ago: It's an obscene stretch to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Hitler considering the former advocates pacifism and the latter engineered mass genocide. Also, based on your last comparison, it's apparent that you're faulting their religion as compared to your own religion. To accuse other religions of wallowing in lies is nothing less than the scorched bottom of the kettle shrilly calling the pot black.
63 months ago: To me cults just seems to be about not having fun. Why can't someone come up with a fun party cult.

You can still have your brainwashing gurus etc, even suck em dry financially but can't it be fun too? I am just saying...can't we get a cult leader that is more original and innovative.
JWElder
JWElder
Beverly Hills, CA
63 months ago: [markbyrn said--"It's an obscene stretch to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Hitler considering the former advocates pacifism and the latter engineered mass genocide.]

Spoken like a true indoctrinated Jehovah's Witness as GENOCIDE at Armageddon of 6 BILLION of the earth's men women and children is exactly what the JW hope /pray / beg for.

Amazing how totally entrenched brainwashed you followers of the Watchtower cult are.You are programed to never explore any negatives of your teachings no matter how absurd.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
63 months ago: JWElder, no I'm not a JW but it's laughable to hear from a fundy-gel Christian cultist call out another cult. As I said, it's the pot calling the kettle black, and fundy-gels likewise believe in a barbaric god who will cast the unbelieving masses into a lake of fire where they be tortured for all eternity. The distinction is that most fundy-gels and cults like Scientology promote militarism while JW doesn't. Are JW's still loons? Yes, but less malignant than fundy-gels and groups like Scientology.
JWElder
JWElder
Beverly Hills, CA
63 months ago:



Jehovah's Witnesses the religion of shill and sock-puppet


Those who defend the JW's are typically members (or disfellowshipped/inactive members who feel guilty) attempting to portray themselves as outside ("unbiased") sympathizers, or might BE outsiders who feel compelled to defend the religion because someone whom they care about is involved in the religion and to their mind, they are defending that person by defending their beliefs.

Those outsiders need to really consider the fact that they have not personally experienced an in-depth, complete exposure to the cult and therefore, have no real basis for defending its beliefs and actions.

JW shill like Scientologst

Shame,shame,shame
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
63 months ago: JWElder, amazing bit of sophistry but I'm not defending JW except to say that it's less malignant as compared to other cults like fundamentalist Christianity and Scientology. By all means, if you want to criticize JW and prove that it's just as malignant as the other cults, I have no problem and encourage it unless you're suggesting that another cult (e.g. Christian or Islamic Fundamentalism, Scientology, etc.) is 'true' or better; that's what the OP did here and I called him on it. He might as well be telling people to choose AIDS over cancer - better to choose neither. Now start explaining why JW is just as bad, and don't wack out on me and say it's because they don't believe in the right form of Jesus.
63 months ago: Just about any religion or cult or group of people gathered or aligned for a common purpose can be compared to Hitler in a way that makes them appear to follow the same path, good or bad. I'm not defending his methods nor what he did, but the man did good for his country for a while. Just like any of the religions or cults of today, there can be good things come from them, done by them and encouraged by their teachings.

There is a point that each individual has to determine by him/her self, where the religion or cult has exceeded their worth and it is at this point that each individual should be allowed to go their separate way, with no interference from the religion or the cult's members. That is where most fail. They will not relinquish their hold over the individual so that they can continue to grow spiritually and as a person.

The harder it is for a person to gain freedom from the group, the more cult-like the organization appears to those on the outside and the more cult-like an organization appears, the lower that group gets on the respectability scale.

For me, Jehovah Witnesses are pretty low on the scale and Scientology is even lower, slightly above political parties but below huge charity organizations, about the only group lower than these two cults are charities run by individuals for the sake of getting a huge salary and a teeny-tinny bit for the actual cause.

If an individual cannot tell the group that they want to be free of them and that group abide by that persons decision, then that group needs to be charged with harassment and it’s leaders locked away.
Huey Newton
Huey Newton
 Administrator
63 months ago: Sixholdens --

Well said. I just happened across this post and read it through and I like your response best. A couple make some points, others just have an axe to grind. Kudos to U.

Also for whoever has a misunderstanding -- It's impossible to be a Christian without believing in the fundamentals of Christianity. Guess that makes all true Christians fundamentalists.

markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
63 months ago: Huey Newton says, 'It's impossible to be a Christian without believing in the fundamentals of Christianity. Guess that makes all true Christians fundamentalists.'

You are exactly right and they condemn all those who don't believe in their particular distillation of fundamental.

What you neglect to mention is that fundamentalists aren't uniform in their fundamentals, but do share the trait of condemning those who don't buy their version of fundamental.

So fundamentalists will rail against those within their own religion, including other fundamentalists who don't measure up to their purity of belief. For example, here's a fundamentalist Baptist minister preaching a sermon that condemns Billy Graham to Hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9DtBHeRP1Q

You agree with that?
Huey Newton
Huey Newton
 Administrator
63 months ago: Interesting video. Nope, I don't agree with all of it. The scripture he quoted are there ant they are accurate, however, God is the ultimate Judge.

I consider myself to be a fundamentalist however, I choose to leave the ultimate Judgement with God. This particular preacher would probably want to condemn me as well for that. Whatever.

One of fundamental Christianity's biggest problems and one of the things that keeps so many from embracing Christ is the judgemental attitude of so many of its adherents. Many times the love and forgiveness of God is nowhere to be seen.

On the flip side, often times the love of God is so emphasized to make it seem as if anything goes. Both are missing the mark.

The Christian's job is to share the gospel. Each individual has to make up his/her own mind with regard to that.
63 months ago: Thanks Huey, good to hear someone out there likes what I say every now and then! Your last three paragraphs are oh so true, just wish others would read and heed them.
Huey Newton
Huey Newton
 Administrator
63 months ago: Yes. People need to think and not make blanket generalizations.

I have not found a personality that outshines Jesus Christ as revealed in the Bible. So I choose to follow His teachings. I consider myself to be pretty intelligent and I know how to read in context. The Bible is a pretty easy book to read and understand. So easy in fact you need help to misunderstand it.

In this life we can be wrong about a lot of things, but if we are wrong about Jesus we may just be wrong enough to go to hell.

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