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Iranians of the World: Now's the Time

Posted 32 months ago|10 comments|687 views
Written by
Spirit of Ralphie
Long Beach, CA
Though I respect the fact you ARE protesting YOUR
stolen national election, unlike what we Americans
did (or didn't do) in 2000 and 2004, why protest
here in the U.S.?
You want to fight the Powers Who Be properly?
Then go home and wage political and military
battles there.
It's not America's responsibility to run your country,
or even ensure you have a legitimate political process.
And instead of tying up traffic and demanding we
use OUR resources to see that Iranian elections are
fair and representative, fly back to the land of
your birth and protest and fight there...IF YOU'RE
TRULY-COMMITTED AND HAVE THE STOMACH AND GUTS FOR IT.
If you're not willing to spill your own blood, then
please keep quiet and stay out of it.
Your country...your problem.
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32 months ago: What!? And actually die for a cause instead of commit murder for a religion!!!!

My apologies, I know that not all Iranians are religious fanatics who support sucide bombers and for that I am grateful.

I support the Iranian people’s hopes and dreams for a freely elected government and freedom to live their lives in peace. Until they have a revolution, peaceful or otherwise and throw out the religious zealots/fanatics and start governing themselves without religious interference they will never have what they desire nor what we would like to see become a reality.

Good luck Iranians, please don’t protest your government on our streets, protest it on the streets of Tehran.
australia
australia
Australia
32 months ago: get over it, with most things majority rules, and these protestors are the minority, go back home and stop your blood shed
32 months ago: Rantrave might be a reasonable form, that Iranians might post articles here. The people clearly have a diversity of opinion and are not all of the same opinion. But we should probably keep in mind, that diversity of opinion is somewhat like diversity in other countries.

For example, not everyone agreed with past President Bush's ways, but those who disagreed were (mostly) loyal Americans. And so too, we should expect the same in Iran. Where strong diversity exists, but underlying same is a loyalty to the country.
32 months ago: I have traveled to and lived in a number of different countries and it has been my experience that when problems arise in other countries there are only two options for the U.S and neither one works out for us. One is we do something to help the situation i.e send food aid etc. When we do this the people who hate us claim we are being imperialistic and sticking our nose where it should not be in order to gain power in that country. Two we do nothing to help, which is when people who hate us scowl at us for being " heartless capitalist pigs" who care nothing for other people's suffering. Sort of a catch 22 situation for the last superpower.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
32 months ago: I understand the argument against the Iranians protesting outside their country, it's good to see them protesting inside their country especially given the regime there, but I'm not sure I entirely agree with the OP.

Of course it isn't America's job to sort out Iran's problems, (I'll side step the whole Iraq 'regime change' debate), but the Iranians protesting in Iran will surely be emboldened by signs of support from around the world and their leaders will perhaps also be a little more cautious with the same.

Without the protests that are occurring in other parts of the world the people in Iran would feel isolated and the leaders would believe no one is watching so they can do what they like; what protesters, nothing to see here...

The USA is often damned if it does and damned if it doesn't; that is the unfortunate problem of being the only world super power, people will always criticise.

Iranians and supporters have posted on various blogs and forums as well as on YouTube (video phones FTW). They also posted on Anonymous's primary forum www.WhyWeProtest.net. Anonymous broadly supports them and is helping them get information out of Iran, although they seem to be doing a good job anyway.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
32 months ago: As to the "Go home" brigade are the people protesting being in the USA? Are they demanding the USA invade Iran like they did Iraq? (OK maybe some are I guess) Why shouldn't they be allowed to show empathy towards people in their country of origin? Aren't many Americans of Irish descent and didn't they support the Irish during the troubles by rallying and raising money for them? Don't most Americans celebrate St Patrick's day? Being held up by protesters is a pain but one which we suffer being in countries that allow such protests (subject to approval, terms and conditions apply) should it matter whether we agree with them or not?
32 months ago: Jakarta99, I think you're right and there has arisen this Catch-22. Where if you do something, critics unite against you. Whereas if you do nothing, critics unite against you. LOL. The Peace Corps was founded in response to this exact problem, I think. People actually living in the situation, actually getting their hands dirty, suffering the same fate and so on, has proven somewhat more successful than sending shiploads of food. That the country's politicians skim from. Leaving a small part of a large investment, some of which gets to the people intended.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
32 months ago: I don't think a catch-22 situation has arisen, it's just a fact of life that you can not please all of the people all of the time. The reason for this is that people are so diverse in their views and there is also no one size fits all solution.

When truly trying to help people one should listen carefully to what the people say they need and address that if one is to do any good. Sometimes the people will say "butt out" in which case one should do so.

Often the do gooders who presume people want their brand of help just get in the way and at best annoy people; there are numerous examples of this especially in recent years involving certain special interest "out reach" groups.

What if any action should be taken for each situation should be based on careful analysis of the situation, which includes listening to the needs as expressed by the people and it should be provided with no strings attached.

Like all such things though one is not always going to get it right and sometimes the criticism will be justified; one can only hope to get it right more often than not and thankfully most established aid agencies do this.
32 months ago: I think I agree to some degree with Teryo and Dean both. Dean I think you are correct that in respect to helping we should and must find the high ground and as you state what "help" is actually needed and pursue it regardless. History will as always be our ultimate judge regardless of the fad or fashion of today. I also feel Terryo is correct that our critics are going to unite and do unite in condemning our actions regardless of what they are. In this sense the critics which are often louder than our supporters seem to get much more attention.

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