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In the beginning....

Posted 34 months ago|14 comments|578 views
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DeanFox
England
One of the questions science has been dwelling on since well the last couple of centuries is the origins of life. Some see this quest as a blatant attack on religion that purports to explain the origins of everything. The two however are not the same thing.

Science freely admits they cannot explain why it all happened just how it all happened and then only to the point just after it all began. Religions however say they explain why it all happened, typically a God decided it was going to be so. This is an alternative to the current religions.

Before I start I will say this, this theory was not imparted to me in a vision; no golden plates were dropped in my lap; no angel visited me in dream; aliens didn't abduct me and I really didn't spend years researching this while torturing tomatoes with electricity. I may on occasions while the idea evolved in my head have been under the influence of alcohol.

I don't claim this is any more valid than any other and frankly don't dogmatically believe it since to presume it is correct and all others are wrong would be the height of arrogance; I did consider starting my own religion but my conscience got the better of me, as L Ron Hubbard (originator of the church of scientology) knew, it's a great way of making a lot of money but I couldn't rip people off like that. So...

In the beginning there were two states that were equal, opposite and absolute. And they were chaos and order. And nothing existed because nothing can be absolutely chaotic nor absolutely ordered.

Then came the event horizon where the two states met and became forces acting on the other to convert them to their desired absolute state and all that exists began to come in to being.

Put simply in everything the force of order keeps everything together, the force of chaos keeps it moving. The more chaos tried to rip everything apart the more order pulled it together and so the first sub atomic particles were formed and emergence took over as the mixes of chaos and order became more and more complex.

OK, that was the quasi scientific bit here's the theological bit. God is the personification of the force of order and the devil is the personification of the force of chaos. Personification, the attributing of human traits to something not human, may suggest to some that humans created them. Really they just gave names to forces which exist, are in everything, which can't exist without the other and have an agenda. The same forces act through us and influence us.

The forces of chaos and order work at all levels from sub-atomic to the abstract such as behaviours. The basic units of everything are a single unit of order and a single unit of chaos. The mix is not homogeneous because that would be too ordered to exist.

Human self awareness gives them the ability to choose whether to take the most ordered of chaotic course in life. Doing good generally results in the most order while doing evil generally results in the most evil however it's not as simple as that.

Too much order or chaos results in collapse. With too much order comes stagnation, freedom to change, to be different, to think for oneself and challenge accepted order is crushed and so nothing evolves and the chance to improve is reduced to nought.

Too much chaos and collapse occurs, people fight each other, nothing can be coordinated and there is much death and destruction.

There is a lot more on the basic concept of everything being the result of chaos and order but it gets a bit tedious.

Quick comparison of this concept with others. It proposes an original state of none existence except for "the state" (God). This one has two pre-existing states, so good and evil always existed. Others claim that God caused everything, this one states that it occurred when the two states met (the fight over heaven?). This one does not explain how chaos and order came about just that they have always been. Other religions also fail to explain how God came about, just that he has always been there.
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GaryDM
GaryDM
New York, NY
34 months ago: The truth (not repeated lies) regarding how the Church of Scientology started is as follows:

1. Between 1950-1951 many thousands were learning and applying the methods of Dianetics to reduce unwanted persisting conditions.

2. Many were discovering at the root of these issues were past life traumas. A percentage were having out-of-body experiences (which has been known about and detailed for thousands of years in the East.)

3. Hubbard started researching the capabilities of the person as an immortal spiritual being who continues to exist with full memories (often hidden due to traumas) beyond the single lifetime of the body.

4. The Church of Scientology was established.

5. Of course, the one-lifers (those who have been brainwashed to believe they are a body and when it dies, they die) and those organizations that want to keep their monopolies, power base and immense cash flow were / are opposed.

GaryDM
GaryDM
New York, NY
34 months ago: As your article focuses on order/chaos, you may wish to read the Dianetic Axioms and these are posted at:
http://www.doctrinaldianetics.org/doctrinal-dianetics.htm

The first of the 194 axioms that are posted above:


Axiom 1 The source of life is a static of peculiar and particular properties.

Axiom 2 At least a portion of the static called life is impinged upon the physical universe.

Axiom 3 That portion of the static of life which is impinged upon the physical universe has for its dynamic goal, survival and only survival.

Axiom 4 The physical universe is reducible to motion of energy operating in space through time.

Axiom 5 That portion of the static of life concerned with the life organisms of the physical universe is concerned wholly with motion.

Axiom 6 The life static has as one of its properties the ability to mobilize and animate matter into living organisms.

Axiom 7 The life static is engaged in a conquest of the physical universe.

Axiom 8 The life static conquers the material universe by learning and applying the physical laws of the physical universe.

SYMBOL: The symbol for the LIFE STATIC in use hereafter is the Greek letter THETA.

These as well as each of the major discoveries are in the book: Scientology 08- Book of Basics. See:

http://www.bridgepub.com/materials/scn08.html?locale=en_US&_sssnkey=98cc6fe104f5d201bd727a471069e48f



GaryDM
GaryDM
New York, NY
34 months ago: Axiom 9 A fundamental operation of THETA in surviving is bringing order into the chaos of the physical universe.

Axiom 10 THETA brings order into chaos by conquering whatever in MEST may be prosurvival and destroying whatever in MEST may be contrasurvival, at least through the medium of life organisms.

SYMBOL: The symbol for the PHYSICAL UNIVERSE in use hereafter is MEST, from the first letters of the words MATTER, ENERGY, SPACE and TIME, or the Greek letter PHI.
MeowMacao
MeowMacao
Andorra
34 months ago: GaryDM, here are some more essential teachings of Scientology, uttered by "Mankind's Greatest Friend," L. Ron Hubbard:

Now, get this as a technical fact, not a hopeful idea. Every time we have investigated the background of a critic of Scientology, we have found crimes for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law. We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts. - Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, 5 November 1967, "Critics of Scientology"

This is the correct procedure: Spot who is attacking us. Start investigating them promptly for felonies or worse using our own professionals, not outside agencies. Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them. Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press. Don't ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way. - Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 25 February 1966

A psychiatrist today has the power to (1) take a fancy to a woman (2) lead her to take wild treatment as a joke (3) drug and shock her to temporary insanity (4) incarnate [sic] her (5) use her sexually (6) sterilise her to prevent conception (7) kill her by a brain operation to prevent disclosure. And all with no fear of reprisal. Yet it is rape and murder. We want at least one bad mark on every psychiatrist in England, a murder, an assault, or a rape or more than one. This is Project Psychiatry. We will remove them. - Hubbard, Sec ED, Office of LRH, Confidential, 22 February 1966, "Project Psychiatry"
MeowMacao
MeowMacao
Andorra
34 months ago: GaryDM, here are some more lovely bits of Scientology "scripture:

A Venezuelan dictator once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put to leprosy in that country. - Hubbard, 'Science of Survival"

Unfortunately, it is all too often true that suppressors to a creative action must be removed before construction and creation takes place. Any person very high on the Tone Scale may level destruction toward a suppressor. - Hubbard, "Science of Survival"

The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. - Hubbard, "Science of Survival"

There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the Tone Scale by un-enturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow. - Hubbard, "Science of Survival"

Actually, have you ever noticed how a Negro, in particular down south, where they're pretty close to the soil, personifies MEST? The gatepost and the wagon and the whip and anything around therea hat. They talk to them, you know. "What'sa mattuh wi' you hat?" They imbue them with personality. Hubbard, Therapy section of Technique 80 ("Route to Infinity" tapes), Part I, a lecture given on 21 May 1952

The South African native is probably the one impossible person to train in the entire world he is probably impossible by any human standard. Hubbard, PAB No. 119, 1 September 1957, as published in Level 0 PABS (c.1968, The American St. Hill Organization).
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
34 months ago: Aww, i hope this post doesn't turn into an s-people/anti-s-people shouting match, i rather like this post.

I think it shoulda made the Rant of the day, it raises a lot of science/religion questions. Unfortunately, your little s-people slip about the H-man, cost you, i think.

All in all, interesting. I'll probably make a more in-depth response later, after i make sure it isn't a shouting match on here.
MeowMacao
MeowMacao
Andorra
34 months ago: Here's some more from your pal L. Ron Hubbard. There's lots, lots more like this:

Show me any person who is critical of us and I'll show you crimes and intended crimes that would stand a magistrate's hair on end. - Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, 4 April 1965

If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. - Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 15 August 1960, Dept. of Govt. Affairs

The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly. - Hubbard, A MANUAL ON THE DISSEMINATION OF MATERIAL, 1955

ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed. - Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 18 October 1967

A truly Suppressive Person or group has no rights of any kind and actions taken against them are not punishable. - Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 1 March 1965, HCO (Division 1) "Ethics, Suppressive Acts, Suppression of Scientology and Scientologists"
MeowMacao
MeowMacao
Andorra
34 months ago: I apologize for helping to derail the comments. Sorry. It is indeed an interesting post, and I'm sorry I jumped into the anti-Scilon game before really reading it.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
34 months ago: See what i mean though Meow, except for the slipup, it's really an interesting post.

i know this, because i refuse to read s-posts anymore, and this takes on science and religion in one go!

i must prepare a good comment, in the words of Gov. Arnold, I'll Be Bach.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
34 months ago: Okay,

here's my response, using someone else's rave:

http://rantrave.com/Rave/The-Enchantment-of-the-Human-Mind.aspx
34 months ago: Check out my Avatar!

I also thought the post started well.
The s crowd did ruin it though.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
34 months ago: On comments so far. I'm not a scientologist or a member of the church of scientology. L Ron Hubbard's tech was "refined" as his research progressed and the concepts at the upper levels are radically different to the lower levels; L Ron Hubbard stated that to understand the later levels one must first understand the lower levels (the gradient), one is not meant to use Dianetics after clear for instance. L Ron Hubbard addresses the beginning of the Universe directly in what he terms "incident 1". Given more space I could explain L Ron Hubbard's genesis
perception, not only what he perceived but why.

Consider this Scientologists, whether in or out of the organisation calling itself the church of scientology, you should agree that L Ron Hubbard is continuing his research in his exteriorized state. By this datum, based on his earlier work and the elapsed time it is fair to say that L Ron Hubbards teachings will have evolved...

None S comments: I agree with the rant presented by TheLegendTomWing to a point. As I said at the start science, or proper scientists, will freely admit they cannot answer the question why we are here? They aim only to explain how we got here from the physical start of the Universe as best as they can tell. Beyond that is theology territory and no one theology is any more right than any other. Mine is merely a unified theory of creation taking in to account both science and a variety of theologies. It does not deny God, but suggests God is a personification; the concept of God dies with the human race but the "force" goes on. (Star Wars perhaps?!)
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
34 months ago: MeowMacao: apology accepted, no worries. :-)
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
34 months ago: Lastly the S reference to the H-man was a slip up, it was on my mind when I started the post and I am also very familiar with said H man. :-)

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