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Illegal Aliens

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OH SO ALONE
We humans don't want to be alone in the universe. It is a hard pill to swallow if we were. Christians like to think that earth is the only planet with people that God created but at least they believe in angels. Angels would mean that humans are not alone but imagine if we were actually alone, I mean really alone, alone with no other life outside of that here on earth. Imagine that this little blue marble was it. How would we process that thought? How could we even cope?

AND FOR GOOD REASON
Scientists are even surer now than ever before that there is other life out there in the Universe. How could there not be? The universe is a very big place and as such it has to have more life. Doesn't it? But why do we even care? Why are we so needy for more life? Don't we kill all the life we find here on earth? If it is a forest, we chop it down. If it is a prairie, we pave it over. If it is animals, we eat them. Even the animals we don't eat we kick out of our habitat and the other intelligent species on earth, those we train to do stupid tricks and we keep them as pets or put them on exhibit. So why the heck do we want to encounter life elsewhere? What would we do with it?

DO ONTO OTHERS
We suppose that if we find a planet with earth like species that we could colonize that world and do there what we do here or that if there is intelligent life elsewhere that they would be so pi$$ S#!+ happy to see us that they would endow us with all their efin wisdom and technology, teach us how to use it so that we could then bless them back by taking over their world, giving them our diseases, enslaving their people, raping their women and then telling them to be grateful because we brought them Jesus and he of course loves them. And oh yeah that if their sorry a$$es are not grateful and accept him(and by him we actually mean us) as lord and master…uhem…I mean savior that our God will make sure to burn them in excruciating torture for perpetual ages ad infinitum.

WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE
Yeah that sounds about right. But of course we wouldn't actually phrase it just like that regardless of how history would unfold exactly like that. No we would use polite words and diplomatic speech and make it sound so freakin sweet that the aliens would swear we were selling Girl Scout cookies. And we would be so efin full of ourselves and how wonderful we are that we would not even notice that the only technology the aliens brought for us to engage with was their industrial size barbeque grills and a planet size bottle of Sweet Baby Rays. No they wouldn't eat the lowers species on the food chain or the flora. No that would be like us choosing to not eat animals and instead eat the grasses of the field. Nope, they would go directly for The Alien version of pork, HUMAN!


THE GOOSE IS COOKED
The way I see it the only conceivable excuse any intelligent being could have for traveling to a $#!+ #Ole of a world like ours is for the same reason that we pull sea bugs out from drainage ditches and pigs from their slop, to eat them of course. It's not as bad as it sounds though and if nothing else we can take consolation in the knowledge that the race of aliens that will harvest us humans from this planet are eco-conscience aliens who most likely seeded this earth organically with our species and has now come to harvest us.
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16 months ago: Love Douglas Adams and Weird Al! Thanks Dwayne!

I'm old school Sci Fi . Remember EE Doc Smith and the Lensman series? I loved that when a spaceman's rocket ship had trouble the hero could grab a hammer and wrench and crawl into the innards of the ship to fix it.

I think that the vast spaces separating us is the ultimate evolutionary test. Each advanced species like ours probably goes through the same stages where first they threaten to kill off the species with their advanced weapons or destroy the environment of their world.

If they survive those tests, they will have to have progressed past the destructive nature and will have learned to live with each other and with nature, and will have a reverence for other life.

Most Sci Fi nowadays are just mechanisms for scary adventure stories so we can blow up monsters. In fact if a race can travel thousands of light years, it won't be to eat us. It will be pure scientific curiosity that drives them.

What is more likely is that the first aliens we meet will probably be androids or robots because the thousand year trip even at light speed would be boring, and they wouldn't be susceptible to all of the deadly pathogens they would find on other planets.

But then again if robots evolve at exponential rates once the singularity is reached, how would you differentiate between a highly evolved alien robot and a God?

16 months ago: Let's hope they don't come for dinner supplies, don't think I'll be all that tasty with all the chemicals floating in my system.

We have a long way to go to achieve approval from any outside species concerning how we treat this planet and the things growing upon it.

As for the spreading of religion, there is a Sci-Fi series I read long ago about a "supposed" Christian group/planet that went about the Galaxy claiming suitable worlds by force and killing all who wouldn't abide by THEIR religion. Lot like the crusades, only worse, they tended to bombard the entire planet first, then give the inhabitants a chance to convert, kind of like the radical Islamist do today, blowing everyone up with no warning.

Only time will tell the story and if people keep holding back exploration, that time will get longer and longer, also wouldn't hurt if people on this planet could get along a little better.

Good one!
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16 months ago: That's right dinner.
I bet they look like us.


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16 months ago: These are great comments.
How disappointing it would be if we visited them and they looked just like us. That wouldn't be any fun.
It could be possible, Jesus already has been to their planets if they exist at all.
People are always on a path of self-destruction. Sure, look for another place to destroy that will be the end result. I think if they did go somewhere else they wouldn't want the minerals because they would want to takeover this new land. Raise the flag and claim it. Then their would be wars and battles right away. It is all written in the stars already. Human beings like anything else will infect a new place with new beginnings in so many ways.
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16 months ago: Anthropomorphism is the biggest stumbling block to intergalactic daydreaming. Who says we wouldn't be deadly poison if ingested by an alien life form? Who says they would even have a physical body that would need nourishment?

And I have to disagree that just because the universe is a big scary place, it would stand that there would have to be more life out there than just ours. It does not logically follow that just because it happened once, it would have to have happened before.

As far as a supposed alien lifeform having evolved to be far superior to ourselves, how long ago do you suppose they first crawled from their own primordial muck? 5 billion years? A million? Scientists say it took us 3.5 billion years to get to where we are today. Where do you think we will be in another billion years?

Something that strikes me. When talking to people who believe in aliens, they almost invariably imagine them as far superior to humans. Even go as far as to imagine them as the creators of life on our planet. Is that the human mind's natural propensity to look for a creator, a God? Why are the so-called "scientific" minds looking to their imagination for a supreme being?

It boggles the mind, eh?
16 months ago: Earth is a pretty good planet for life and we can draw some conclusions from the life we see around us. Intelligent, tool - using, self - organizing life bodies will want to be flexible in body and mind. They won't be huge, carnivores because smart and organized, overcomes big and mean. To use tools, a life form will have to have something like a hand or two or three, and to move about, something like legs. There will be a central portion to its nervous system and that will be protectable by the life form. It will use tools, communicate with symbols. heck, we're probably talking a human - like life form. Its skin might be grey, its stature might be short and light, its eyes might look a bit different, but serve the same function as ours. Survival constrains a life form, what intelligent life could make progress without an ability to speak and / or write?
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16 months ago: If they can get here at all and not crash and burn on landing, then their technical knowledge is far superior than ours. What would we have that they might want? Us. Food supply. I watch Star Trek, too.

I wonder where heaven is? You think it is somewhere out there?
16 months ago: Every observable stellar object from our vantage point in the Universe is a reflection from their past. If we haven't received a signal from them in expected medium of communication we use, sound and light it might be because

A) They don't exist (The aliens or their means of communicating)
B) They were not at that level of sophistication yet.
C) We missed the signal
D) They realize that communicating in that fashion would not get the job done efficiently.

I speculate that if we want to get alien communication that we will have to look for a means that is more direct than light or sound, one that doesn't bend with space-time but that could cut right through it. Perhaps dark energy might do the trick. We might be floating in an ooze ocean of intergalactic alien communication and not even know it, which is why I humbly suggest that Earth is the organic farm for some eco-conscience aliens.

BTW: Intergalactic space travel is not practical unless it can be done quickly.
16 months ago: I should add to that last comment that we don't usually hold conversations of any degree with our livestock so why would alien farmers talk to us?
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16 months ago: We do however tend our livestock, and our livestock are fully aware of our presence. WE also tend to keep them from destroying their habitat. Are we better farmers than the aliens?

Or maybe.... we are terraforming the planet for their eventual arrival, making it a hotter, more carbon based atmosphere. Maybe they breathe methane, and absorb their carbon based nutrients through respiration.

Maybe when we do finally manage to kill off all life on Earth, the methane and other carbon based gases given off by trillions and trillions of tons of decomposing bodies and plants will flood the atmosphere, giving this planet the air they would need to survive.
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16 months ago: We talk about aliens from other worlds that probably won't look like us, but all around us there is a world full of teaming life that doesn't look like us.
We have insects, animals, microscopic animal life, and plant cells that are surrounding us. We have infectious air born activity that can wipe us all out. Is that an alien force. We can see some things with our eyes, and things we can't see. You can say this is alien. Kind of like God in one respect. We can't see Him, but we know he is there. Is he an alien? No.
What about people of other beliefs, color, and religion ,do some treat them as aliens? I don't know what to expect if we have life on other planets. I sure hope we don't treat them badly if they come in peace.
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16 months ago: Only humans would behave like us. Our behavior can be wretched to one another. I could imagine War of the Worlds if we did have someone come here visiting us from some far away planet. What we can't explain, we tend to kill off. People would panic and condemn right off. God help us if they took something from us. They sure won't get healthcare, so why come here at all.
I don't think we have anything to offer.

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