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How Can I Delete Some of my RRs But Not Cancel my Account?

Posted 13 months ago|26 comments|624 views
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I need to delete some of my rants and raves. What is the fastest way to get this done? I do not want to cancel my account.

In the RR FAQ it says that I can delete a post myself. But, the FAQ is not current, so I cannot delete anything. The only thing I can do is update a post, but I don't want to do that.

Thanks

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13 months ago: You can't delete articles. You can delete comments. You will need to get Alex Layton to approve article deletion unless it fall outside of TOS guidelines. Once they hit the search engines it is unlikely they will be deleted. The search engines take a dim view of sites with dead links listed.

Deleting your account won't remove them either.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
 Philadelphia, PA
13 months ago: Why would you want them removed anyway?
13 months ago: I didn't want to be the one that asked that question. Although I would like to hear the answer.

I can only guess....
13 months ago: I'm writing a book, and some of the material in it is stuff I have posted on R&R. Is there any legal claim of original ownership R&R has to my posts, and if so, is does that mean those posts no longer belong to me? And what about my using my R&R posted work elsewhere, whether in e-mails, partially or fully quoted in letters, in letters to the media, to the media in submissions, or in others' works, whether video, live performance or internet transmission?

I have always assumed I own the content I uploaded to R&R, regardless of how they also want use the copy of it as they claim on the TOS/ FAQ. I clearly understand the ethical rules about not publishing the same content on multiple media outlets, such as writing letters to the editor to multiple newspapers using the same letter, or doing so across the internet in likewise manner -- that's NOT what I am talking about.

I fully intend to use my own original and creative material as I like, and I do not mind how R&R uses it it one bit -- they can pee on it for all I care. It will chill writers near and far if R&R claims to own my original content as opposed to getting to use a copy of it as they please. Please clarify this question ASAP. Thank you, Christopher Hall
13 months ago: You need to ask a Copyright Attorney. I think you will find that everything posted on this and/or anyother site generally falls into "Copyright Law". See that little (c) 2011 at the bottom of every page?
13 months ago: In basic terms. Let's say you wrote a book and published it and it was "Copyrighted". Then someone came along and republished it.

Would you have a "Copyright" claim?
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
 Philadelphia, PA
13 months ago: This is not accurate. Pluto, you do own the content. You granted a license to Rant Rave to use the content. That is all. Now, this license is perpetual, and there don't seem to be restrictions, which means they can do whatever they want for as long as they want. This doesn't bother me. It protects them so you can't go out, write a book, and then have the publisher go after RantRave. This doesn't mean you can't write the book, it just means Rant Rave's backside is covered.
13 months ago: OK, so I did copywrite the book in Dec. 2010, so yes, OK I get it.
13 months ago: Thank you for the clarification -- for sure I understand R&R covering their backside using the content once it's posted onto the site.

Now I would like to open a separate question I mentioned above as being distinct: is my written work posted on R&R forever frozen here as it is considered ethically wrong to post it elsewhere? Are there ways people can free up their works to be posted elsewhere, or is it never acceptable due to confusing those poor little google spiders crawling the net for new links? Is the answer to just link to the posts "locked" on R&R?

I am hesitant to post any new content on R&R because I'm not sure I want future works locked here -- maybe if there was a serious and considerate readership that felt like a community, I wouldn't feel like the content is falling into a black hole.

There are other places I'd like to submit works I have posted on R&R because I don't think there is any readership at R&R and the GN was shut down for malfeasance. But I understand broken links are not acceptable and that multiple postings on the net are likewise frowned upon. So, I assume the pieces written here are stuck here for good, and had I thought that situation through earlier, I would have probably not have posted certain essays here.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
 Philadelphia, PA
13 months ago: Your work isn't "locked" here at all. You are most certainly able to post things you own the rights to. However, you are correct, it is frowned upon to post the same thing in multiple places, it winds up hurting the site in the search engines.

As for not posting, this seems to be a recurring problem. RantRave, to me, is a great community. I love reading the things people have to write about. However, we have lost many good writers to disparaging comments and childish fighting amongst political factions. My suggestion to you is to keep posting. As people read coherent, well-thought pieces, they may become inspired to write themselves. I don't post as often as I should, but I enjoy posting here and reading what others have posted. I tend to ignore the posts that repeat the same thing over and over again and also the posts that have one line and then a link. If your ultimate goal is a critical, interested readership RantRave is perfect. If your goal is to make tons of money, well, I would send it to the Wall Street Journal.
13 months ago: According to the terms of service and the RR FAQ, I can delete a post.
Obviously, I cannot do it myself even though that is clearly stated in the RR FAQ under Account

How do I delete a post?

Log into your account and click on the post you would like to delete. Beneath the text of your post, there is a link that says "Delete this Rant/Rave."

It's difficult, in not impossible, to get any straight answers from the RR terms, community guidelines, get paid to post, etc., because they are either contradictory, outdated and inaccurate.

As I said, I don't want to delete my account. However, I do need to remove some of the posts from the site so I'll contact Alex Layton.

Thanks.


13 months ago: Wow! Need. I think the items in the TOS overrule any FAQ.

"If you post Rant or Rave Content to the Website, you grant RantRave and its affiliates a nonexclusive, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable and fully sub-licensable right to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such Rant or Rave Content throughout the world in any media. "

perpetual, irrevocable and fully sub-licensable right to use?

RantRave will rotate Your third party IDs into 50% of the Impressions on the Rants and Raves You create. In order to share in the Impressions,

In order to share?

You might need a better reason than "Need" when you contact Alex.

You might "need" to read the Terms of Use and not the Frequently Asked Questions.

Yep. Deletion of your account only deletes your user info and not the articles. They are perpetual.
13 months ago: Your "need" to be right all of the time too often gets in the way of the truth.

I've read every piece of documentation on this site.

You left out part of the terms, but you post what suits you. You're good at providing a small piece of information and not all the facts. Your choice to lead people down the wrong road is baffling to me.

What part of the site does a person actually believe then? To say I should not use the FAQ is absurd. Generally, these expound on the terms.

What about the "get paid to post" page:


....We're proud to provide you with a space to speak your mind and earn a bit of cash. The concept is easy: the more you write, the more money you can make.

No other publishing site offers you 100 percent of your page impressions, which translate into advertising dollars....When you post on our site, you will get every single page impression on your posts, guaranteed.

Well, shoot, there is no "share" in there...but, that's part of the problem, isn't it.

You've acted like anyone who uses Adsense is corrupt. You've outright accused me of colluding with other members with ZERO reason or provocation. Somehow people forget RR is ad-based. How are they right and I'm wrong. I don't get the purpose of your chronic harassment.

13 months ago: Got me there! I'm sunk. I do need to ask though. When you signed up for the "service" did it ask you to agree to the FAQs page or the Get Paid to Post page? Or, did it ask you to agree with the "Terms of Use"?

Simple question. You want to challenge that fact?
13 months ago: Oh yeah. BTW. If you feel that I'm harassing you by commenting on your posts then flag my comments. Otherwise, stuff another banana in the pie hole for comfort.
13 months ago: Oh yeah, got me there...

Please. Like I said earlier, you're so busy proving yourself right that you misrepresent the truth.

I agreed to the terms.

Fact - from the terms:

It's possible that at some point, in RantRave's sole discretion, RantRave may elect not to maintain the structure described in this document. RantRave may, for example, have to change the percentages or details of the Impression sharing. If RantRave does need to change any significant terms, RantRave will notify You by email, if reasonably practicable, at least two weeks before any such change occurs. At that point, You will have the option of removing Your Rants and Raves from the Service if You choose to stop working with the Impression services under the new structure.

So, while you were so busy trying to prove your point, you did a superb job of backing up mine.

You can have your banana back.
13 months ago: Where is the link to your blockquote...or is it by admission a term of RantRave in your accepted agreement?
13 months ago: List each and every post along with a link that you want deleted.

Include the reason for deletion for each post.

Is it because you want to cut and paste them elsewhere?
Sorry. That Dog won't hunt.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
 Philadelphia, PA
13 months ago: This was posted already, but I figured I would step in since we have started to sling mud over here.

"If you post Rant or Rave Content to the Website, you grant RantRave and its affiliates a nonexclusive, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable and fully sub-licensable right to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such Rant or Rave Content throughout the world in any media. "

and this is also relevant:

"You also permit any other User to access, view, store or reproduce the material for that User's personal use. You hereby grant RantRave the right to edit, copy, publish and distribute any material made available on RantRave by You."

Cypress is correct, the FAQ is just mean't to break down some of the bullet points, but at the end of the day the terms of use are king. When you signed up for the site you clicked agree. My suggestion for you would be to talk to Alex Layton, as I don't think it would be appropriate for me to delete your posts.

Dead links from posts that are deleted, from my understanding, can hurt you when it comes to google searches and the like. I would think RantRave, like any forum type of place, wants to keep as much content as they can. This means that it is unlikely that your posts will be deleted. Not to mention, it bugs people like me who love to go back and read some of the old stuff.

To answer Pluto's question, yes, you do own the content, but you granted a license to RantRave to use that content basically any way they want (including publishing their own book. However, this is unlikely) and for as long as they want. You can still publish it in a book, but then why would you, since the readers could just come here.

On a personal note, I remember when Siempre Solo deleted his account the first time. All of his posts left with him. It was a real shame, he had some interesting stuff mixed in there that just went "poof." Many people were upset about it (including myself) and RantRave stepped in by allowing posts to remain after someone deleted his/her account.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
 Philadelphia, PA
13 months ago: Alex, I am still interested why you would like the posts deleted. You can shoot me a PM instead if that makes you more comfortable.
13 months ago: Speaking of PMs....are the Moderators the only ones that can get PMs?

I've been to several Profiles of my associates here that I correspond with from time to time and the "CONTACT AUTHOR" option is gone.

What's up with that?
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
 Philadelphia, PA
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TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
 Philadelphia, PA
13 months ago: You can select whether or not you wish to receive messages from other members. I believe you can change this setting under edit profile.
13 months ago: Yah that option is no longer available. At least not in my profile.
13 months ago: As per Alex that option has been disabled due to numerous complainants of spam and harassment. Kind of like curing acne with decapitation.

At one time didn't we have the option to "turn off" specific authors so they could not send us mail?

I miss the ability to stay in contact with some folks that are not regulars anymore and now I can't. I don't like that one bit.
13 months ago: Yeah, we did have that ability. I didn't realize it was gone. I thought some just had it turned off their message thing.

That's too bad.

Crap, man, what if you have acne on your back? You'd be all screwed up! ;) It seems like the public spam and harassment should get tackled as well.
13 months ago: You never answered the question as to why you need to delete some of your articles. That seems to be slipping along the side of the conversation into the drainage ditch. So why do you have a need to delete something you have already posted? I think that is a fair question. If you don't feel like offering a good reason that everyone can sign on to then you might as well move to the Huff. I'm sure Huff-N-Puff will delete your articles upon request.

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