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How Arizona Police are Trained to Avoid Racial Profiling

Posted 25 months ago|10 comments|1,064 views
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thePoliticop
Long Beach, CA
Portions of this rant are from a previous rant we put up...but it is well worth the repost...
As we have indicated in the past, the debate over immigration in Arizona is a touchy subject. you are not going to find many people in American who do not agree that there is a need for Immigration reform...in some degree....at a massive level.
The argument is not on the issue, it is on the method. After watching the Sunday political round up...it is very obvious that we are not focusing our arguments in the right area. Curbing immigration by violating the Constitution is just....cheating to win, at the sake of our national, and historical reputation.
If you arrest someone, and SAY that it was not racial profiling, then it ISN'T racial profiling. But, just cause you say it's not, doesn't make it so.

So instead of training their officers to "not racially profile" persons in AZ, they are now training their officers how to conduct stops with Probable Cause, Reasonable Suspicion or what they cal RETROACTIVE Probable Cause... This is where our argument needs to be right now....here is an example of RETROACTIVE Probable Cause and how it can be used to subvert the Constitution.

I GUARANTEE that this will be the premise for a large percentage of the stops in AZ

Now, here is the little hidden secret. Authority figures can squash this "violating 4th Amendment" argument by switching to what is called "the chickensh*t book".  

What's "the chickensh*t book"? This is the book that police officers refer to when practicing "retroactive police work."  It's a growing trend in police circles with the newer, less experienced police officers who do not know what they have, until after they make their arrest.

Totally Hypothetical Example: Two officers driving down the expressway and see two male white (bandit) types on motorcycles stopped at the tri-light in front of them about to enter the expressway. There has been talk in the town about a motorcycle gang planning to throw a wild, raucous, rowdy, criminally intent party at the local convention center. The officers make the decision to stop the two riders. As they approach, one rider asks the officer, "Why are you stopping us, officer?" The officer tells the rider that he will explain in a minute, then ask for his driver's license and registration. The rider complies. A check for wants and warrants determines that the motorcycle rider is not wanted. But when the rider puts his wallet back into his pocket, the flaring of his jacket reveals the butt of the handgun in his shirt. The officer detains the rider and arrests him for carrying a concealed weapon. Both motorcycles were impounded and the officers conducted thorough inspections of the bikes. During the impound inspection, one officer points out to the other that the tire treads on the back of one bike is totally worn.

The arrest report says that the officers observed the two individuals on motorcycles stopped at a tri-light. The passenger officer noticed that the rear tire on one of the bikes had "regrooved tires (it's illegal to have a tire which the tread has been burned or recut – CVC 27461). During their traffic stop, they observed the weapon in the jacket.
 
This is an example of retroactively turning an illegal detention into a legal arrest...with the help of a "chickensh*t book".
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25 months ago: Sorry to bust your bubble. Non-Legal-Americans have no rights on American soil. ZIP, NADA, NONE. Try this. Why don't you cross the border of Mexico illegally and get caught.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
25 months ago: The police has been doing this for years!!!

They will break your lights right in front of you and write on the ticket, that they stopped you for having a broken light.

Or they would plant drugs on you and arrest you for illegal possession.

I am a member of a minority group, I have seen this happen right in front of me, as a young man a dozen times.

The police have NOT changed in a hundred years.

That is why we DO NOT trust them, with a Statute that will allow them to continue to act like the pigs that they are.

Read my post called the:
COPS, THE LARGEST STREET GANG IN AMERICA

This immigration Bill will destroy this country.

And give the dirty cops an excuse to follow an agenda of Racism and hatred.

If we had 100% clean, honest cops, then there would not be problems.

But not even in a thousand years, have we ever had 100 percent honest men in positions of power.

I have seen all manner of police abuse. You are just adding fuel to the fire.

Arizona will go bankrupt from all the lawsuits.

I tell it like it is, I pull no punches, tell no lies, and I am as I am

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25 months ago: Didn't you serve them papers in the last 30 days?
What does minority status have to do with anything?
thePoliticop
thePoliticop
Long Beach, CA
25 months ago: Not gonna argue that point with you Cypress... I am TOTALLY in agreement. My point is.... Once you start cutting corners, buying cheap tape to fix a leaky pipe, you run the risk of damaging the whole drainage system.
The FEDS needs to step up and fix the problem... Putting that responsibility on the shoulders of local law enforcement is taking a short cut. And in turn, the local law will cut corners, to avoid the stated threat of lawsuits for not imposing the law...end result..selective acknowledgement of our Constitution.
25 months ago: The FEDs? You are actually placing your trust in the Federal Government?

Not likely. You see you need to take a local stance and work your local problem. Don't get your nose out of joint when it's not a problem in your locale. However, if there is the same problem in your locale which is being addresses locally in another locale. Maybe you should address the problem. Why take the same old stance and push it off on the FBI, CIA, NSA, ATF, USBP, ICE, FMO, SS, MediCare, MediCaid, Federal School Funding, Federal Road Tax, IRS or any of the other "Federal" programs?

...end result..selective acknowledgement of our Constitution...
thePoliticop
thePoliticop
Long Beach, CA
25 months ago: Ronbot, I see where you are going, but I wouldn't use the same broad brush that you are using. Not all are bad, most in fact are great. I don't see the police doing this with malice as much as I see AZ police doing this to to try and fix their problem.
Short answer, take the law off the books and re-tool on a national level with better safeguards for the Constitution.
25 months ago: ...safeguards for the Constitution...

Yeah, safeguards for non-Constitutional people?

Here are the beginning word of the Constitution, lest you have forgotten the...

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union
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25 months ago: More states need to adopt measures like the ones AZ have made law, and force the Federal Government to take a hand in getting the problem under control.
But even then, the Feds' stance would be the same, "We hear you and we agree, and we are taking measures to solve this problem, at least until we can focus your attention somewhere else and maybe you will forget about it for another year or two."
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
24 months ago:
thePoliticop

A cop is an ac·com·plice (-kmpls)
n.
An associate in wrongdoing, especially one who aids or abets another in a criminal act, either as a principal or an accessory.

When he does not report a crime committed by another cop. Cops cover up 99.99 percent of their brothers' criminal actions and corrupt activities.

They are acting as if the people are the enemy and they fight us when we report on one bad cop.

That makes the entire department guilty and dirty.

When cops change, then you can tell me that most are decent. Until then you are just as dirty as your brother.

For now, they are violating their oath of office and are in TREASON to the Constitution.

I tell it like it is, I pull no punches, tell no lies, and I am as I am.

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I tell it like it is, I pull no punches, tell no lies, and I am as I am

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ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
john77002
john77002
Houston, TX
24 months ago: Profiling: What works: http://bit.ly/4CmXLG

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