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HOW TO TALK WITH SCIENTOLOGISTS

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THE RONBOT HUNTER
HOW TO COMMUNIOCATE WITH SCIENTOLOGISTS

Know this for a fact if he is in your eyes classed as a Ronbot, then any communication with him/her is wasted. You might get some satisfaction but no penetration into his closed mind.

Responding to them is useless, remember that dis-communication and dis-connection is a tool of the cult. You will never be able to undo years of brain-washing in a few posts made to him online.

Your time is better spent by posting facts and quotes made by LRH that exposes the facts about LRH and the cult. Tell all the public the facts, educate them to the dangers and frauds in the cult.

A Ronbot will never want a real conversation off-line with you, because he is programmed to use fair-game against you. A real friendly conversation will make him PTS in the eyes of his Ethics Officer and subject him to "failure on the bridge".

Besides, he is convinced that you are evil and only your sins made you their opponent. His postings are not made to you but to the public which he hopes to bring in. They need to make more and more money and that is why they are failing--When you warn the public they make less money. They are NOT trying to save SOULS, but only to capture bodies to expand and destroy all other religions as their policies demands.

Stop fighting with them online, just up-load the facts and that will cause them to read the very things that will cause them to be PTS to the world.

Another thing to remember is that if they were so pure and good why are they afraid of their Ronbots knowing the whole truth? The other side's truth?

Ronbots are controlled, subdued, restricted beings and are not allowed to read or view anti-cult websites. The Head Ronbots fear this above all. Once he really wants to talk with you/me off-line he is "dead-in-the-water" and is a "failure-on-the bridge".

That should be your only goal to cause him to be PTS to you-by ignoring him and making him read the truth from their own policy letters.

He may want to deny the cult's own policy letters but it will slowly cause him to be PTS.

Be a Ronbot Hunter and make him be a failure on the bridge!

Send them the facts and hunt them down.

THE ONE AND ONLY RONBOT HUNTER
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Frederick
Frederick
Canada
30 months ago: I appreciate your comments, Ronbot, and I agree with most of them, but not with the totality.

Almost every Scientologist eventually figures out the scam. Either they get thrown out when they start showing skepicism or they leave on their own accord. Talking to them about the problems with Scientology can speed this exodus.

The best example of this is Andreas Hendal who runs xenu.net board. He communicated tirelessly and respectfully with Tory Christman. She had gone by the name Magoo on message boards like this one. Just a few years ago her role seemed to be similar to that of Terryeo. She blew the cult and is now an effective communicator for the anti-cult movement.

Jack and Terryeo are victims who got roped into the cult. For this they are to be pitied and helped. I don't forget that they are now trying to pull others in and should be dealt with as harshly as any other swindler for doing so. It is a delicate balancing act.
30 months ago: Andreas Hendal might be an example, but his methods have proven ineffective. You might take a clue. Why do I say ineffective? Alexia.com monitors web traffic. To there and type in "Scientology.org" and the site allows you to compare to "xenu.net". Notice the similarities and differences. In addition to this current data, lies the foundation of Andreas' website. "Everything on this site is my personal opinion". Don't you see, the data on his site may well be his personal opinion, but that statement denies that any other source of opinion can be found on his site. You get one person's view and only one person's view. This is self-defeating.

Snicker your pity of your sleeve, Fredrick. The person you speak of has just told you, it is your misunderstanding. I have found Scientology quite helpful. In addition, I have seen its study to be wonderfully helpful for many other people.
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
30 months ago: From Terryeo-- "You get one person's view and only one person's view. This is self-defeating." Why do I find this ironic?


Also from Terryeo-- "Snicker your pity of your sleeve, Fredrick." I think I know what you mean, but I am not quite sure. This must be a colloquialism we don't use in Canada. Whatever the case, I will decide whom I will feel pity for.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
30 months ago: One thing that is not taken into account, Terryeo, is that not everything on xenu.net is personal opinion, although the disclaimer helps prevent additional lawsuits.

However, the court records, transcripts, policies and book scans are somewhat more authoritative.

Also, I hope you'll read my previous statement regarding alexa.com.

While xenu.net has a lower ranking, the traffic it shows is more believable, as it demonstrates that the site visitors spend more time on the site, visit more pages, and are from countries that do not also offer alexa rank manipulation services!

just an analysis.
skeptic
skeptic
Canada
30 months ago: It's quite true that it is very hard to get through to Scientologists, because the cult has very clever self-protective mechanisms that prevent its members from honestly examining their own experiences in the cult. On the other hand, if critics of the cult refuse to debate the cultists, the critics may be considered to lose the debate by default. And in the end, most cultists will eventually leave the cult. We may be able to assist in this process.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
30 months ago: Terryeo: "Andreas Hendal might be an example, but his methods have proven ineffective." - Alexa.com blah blah.

Terryeo, the way you keep referring back to those Alexa stats is beginning to sound desperate. Anything more than a cursory look at the stats reveals shenanigans anyway; I concur with Mark Tomles' analysis.

Critics from the Internets are never going to be impressed with Internet stats. These stats are meant to impress you as a member of the organsation calling itself the church of scientology, not the critics.

It's the same logic as printing shed loads of books using cheap labor and cheap (really crap from what I gather) translators to do them is as many languages as possible. The number of books do not reflect the number of members of the organisation. The number of languages does not reflect the number of countries around the world in which the books are widely read, if at all. All it reflects are the number of books printed and number of different languages they've translated them in to using cheap, crap, translators.

Likewise the number of libraries basic sets have been sent to does not remotely reflect the number of libraries that put them on shelves. Summary analysis suggests way less than 10% of libraries in Australia that received them actually put them on the shelves. (Sorry but your claim that we base claims of libraries not stocking books / returning them on "1 or 2 or 3" libraries is simply untrue). We've checked electronic catalogues and hundreds of libraries in USA, Aussie, UK and New Zealand.

Must try to find the translation I heard of (2nd hand anecdotal so don't quote me!*) where one Scientology book recommends eating babies. *Wouldn't surprise me though.
GaryDM
GaryDM
New York, NY
30 months ago: Those who push the psych agenda have no interest in doing other than attacking / ridiculing a CORRECTLY perceived threat to the psychiatric / pharmaceutical monopolies that pocket $2 trillion annually (worldwide sales).

These one-lifers who are brainwashed into thinking they are only a body and "die when the body dies" live a insular life and are no different than the millenia of haters who have attacked anything threatening their (then current) status quo.

Boring, tedious little minds.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
30 months ago: Hey, um, hate to point out the irony, but aren't you attacking and ridiculing those that disagree with you?
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
30 months ago: Gary, what happened to the pandeterminism L.Ron taught you? And Gary, it is not simply either/or with the pharmaceutical companies and Scientology. You know, I think the pharmaceutical companies are pushing too hard too. But compared to Scientology they are saints!! Let's remember that Scientology thinks that the source of all ills is space alien souls clinging to the body. I'll take pharmaceuticals over that. And let's remember that the pharmaceutical companies, money-grubbers that they are, are in part responsible for making modern life expectancy much longer than it was a hundred years ago. Has anyone done a survey about life expectancy among Scientologists? L.Ron, after claiming clears would live longer lives, died at 74, well below average for an American male. I think his beloved Mary Sue died even younger. What do you think Gary?
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
30 months ago: Please read this line again--"Know this for a fact if he is in your eyes classed as a Ronbot, then any communication with him/her is wasted".

If he is not so brain-washed with the fair-game and SP-PTS tech, then you might be able to talk reality with him. Then a friendly conversation will be accepted with him if off-line. If you really want to save him, ask for his number and see what kind of response you get. The typical Ronbot will NEVER gain anything by talking with an SP like you. He does not see you--all he sees is what he was told or read about you or me. He lives and breathes the policy letters, SP-PTS and fair-game tech, his good days are numbered by his wins (points or stats) against you on-line or in the street when he asks for your sins.

He writes and turns in his wins, that he "caved-in", harmed, hurt, insulted, beat-up or harassed etc. so many SPs, and is applauded by his fellow Ronbots for having hurt you.

You must know that ALL scientologists are NOT Ronbots, but those that are, are very dangerous and will even attack or harm their own relatives.

If in your eyes he is a Ronbot, dis-connect and ignore him as he was/is a bug not worth saving.

Continue posting the facts against them and help mankind take back what was stolen and mis-used and abused by the Godless cult called $cientology.

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Frederick
Frederick
Canada
30 months ago: I certainly have met Scientologists as you describe.

But you never can tell when one of the Ronbots is ready to accept reality. I am proud to report that no one at the local org (and it had a staff of about 120) predates my taking courses there. Every single one of them has left by now.

One of the local critics, now in retirement, exit councilled several Scientologists on his own. In addition, he has people in the org who call him irregularly. They would leave but their ties to loved ones in the cult are too strong at this point.

I don't urge self-sacrifice, but politeness whenever possible and a willingness to help.

I have witnessed assaults and verbal abuse as the Scientologists screamed at protesters inches from their face. I don't want any martyrs. But, if possible, they should see us as well-meaning individuals.

When walking by the cult offices I will often offer a body-router a donut and a coffee at a nearby coffee shop, if he really wants to discuss Scientology. I have not been taken up on it.

Terryeo, at this point, seems to have few critical thinking skills. But, I can't imagine him staying that way forever. One day he will pack up and leave.

My biggest fear with Terryeo, Jack and the rest, is that they will WANT TO BE RIGHT. L.Ron tells his followers not to want to be right as opposed to want the best answers wherever they may come from. But after someone has blown thousands if not hundreds of thousands on Scientology while all their friends and family are telling them how foolish they are, there is a tremendous need to be right. It is very, very hard, for a person to admit how foolish they have been. Many of them will hate attackers like me. How hard it must be to admit to oneself that the hated attackers had been right all along.

So, Ronbot Hunter, we see things differently here. That's OK. There are lots of ways to effectively deal with Scientology.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
30 months ago: I would agree Fred- there are lots of ways, and each with Merits.

For instance, there are those that choose to point out some of the problems currentl in the organization- the alleged abuses, horrifying policies and past crimes and the like- these posts reach those that are looking for information and deserve to have all of the information so they may make their own decision.

And then there are those that respond with kindness and compassion. Those are the ones that will reach those that are currently "in" and want to be "out", but aren't sure how.

Consider, for instance, Ms. Magoo. She was one of the scientology bulldogs, and would never shrink from a fight. She loved it. You couldn't argue her "out" if you tried. But, she credits kindness with saving her. She credits Mr. Heldal-Lund, of xenu.org, with giving her the strength and the knowledge that what she was told was untrue- not all critics are "evil" or "out to destroy scientology".

So I would maintain that both types of critics are important. You can't "argue" beliefs out of people (normally), and you certainly can't "kindly mention" to someone that they need to avoid that pothole.
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
30 months ago: Thanks Mark and Xenuluvr. Your comments are illuminating.

The breaking point for me was fully realizing that virtually all of Hubbard's claims were nonsense. He baited and switched clear; be baited and switched OT and he charged oodles of money for delusions. The delusions were so strong that people stayed with them for decades, their best years, before admitting to themselves that they were wrong.

I try to stay away from the faults within the organization. Scientologists will tell you everything that was wrong with Paulette Cooper, how Hubbard's wife was set up for stealing photocopy paper, and now that the lieutenants were the assailants and that DM ferreted them out. These views seems ridiculous to me but it is hard to argue with the people who have been fed the false information by the cult.

I find it much easier to argue that clears don't have the attributes described in DMSMH and that there has never been an OT phenomenon. Still, if a Scientologist has burnt brain wiring from years of auditing, he/she won't even see that.
30 months ago: The Psych agenda is a criminal agenda. Now the psychs are making anti-religion blogs because they have been found out.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
30 months ago: "The Psych agenda is a criminal agenda. Now the psychs are making anti-religion blogs because they have been found out. "...

... All of them?
30 months ago: Certainly the Australian psych, the Fiddler, that I expose in my latest essay.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
30 months ago: Dear Readers: The cult will always claim that ALL SPs are evil and that they don't want to help others,
But that is just black propaganda made to impress upon the public that only they can heal the body, mind and soul.
In my years exposing the cult after they nearly killed me, I discovered how to heal myself of many illnesses, that had nothing to do with the PTS crap taught to Ronbots.
There are only five causes of illnesses as I wrote in Mother Nature's Secrets of Life and Death.
And all of them are tied into knowing how to use just two laws of God. Scientology claimed one of them as being only invented by LRH. Well a law of nature according to copy-right law, is NOT protected by copy-right, no matter how many they have on the subject of physiological reactions. For everything in Scientology is based upon Physiological Reactions and the law of cause and effect.
Once you know these laws any and all healings of the mind, body and soul are made clear. From then on your ability to know which one to do (five causes of illness) first leads you to recover from the majority of illnesses.
Scientology has defrauded the entire world and has denied a new knowledge given to us by God and not by RON.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
30 months ago: "Certainly the Australian psych, the Fiddler, that I expose in my latest essay"

Ah, so not "all" of them. You meant "one" of them. That makes a little more sense :)
Nate Johnston
Nate Johnston
San Marcos, TX
2 months ago: Hi RonBot! I just wanted to say thank you for doing what you do! I got your comment on my site and am so glad there's people like you willing to fight the psychotic Scientologists! May the RonBot live forever whooop!! :D

P.S. Happy Thanksgiving!

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