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Glenn Beck and the ADL

Posted 26 months ago|25 comments|664 views
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Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
The Bnai Brith Anti Defamation League has a history that initially inspires trust. It was founded in 1913 in the aftermath of the lynching of Leo Frank by a Jew hating mob after a questionable conviction for the murder of a 13 year old girl in his factory.

Since then, it has championed clear cut cases of religious, racial and ethnic bigotry. It keeps information on hate groups that is useful to those who combat them, both legally and informationally. What is wrong with this rosy picture?

Glenn Beck is a conservative radio and television talk show host. He is impassioned in his conservative views, painting a bleak picture of America's economic future. He has been outspoken in his opposition to the Obama presidency. He is almost equally critical of Republicans who he feels betray sound conservative, libertarian and traditional values. The ADL has taken him on.

The ADL report notes as follows about Glenn Beck.


"Beck and his guests have made a habit of demonizing President Obama and promoting conspiracy theories about his administration," the report states. "Beck has even gone so far as to make comparisons between Hitler and Obama and to promote the idea that the president is dangerous."

In March, for example, Beck promoted a right-wing conspiracy theory that the Federal Emergency Management Agency is building concentration camps to house "dissidents."

The United States is "headed towards socialism, totalitarianism beyond your wildest imagination," he said.

Beck later backed away from the FEMA camp theory, but, according to the report, his constantly saying "I fear for my country" breeds hostility towards the government."






There are those who tend towards conspiratorial views of history, and those who believe in economic forces shaping history. conspiracy theories can revolve around an ethnic group and degenerate into hatred of that group. But Glenn Beck has stayed far away from blaming any ethnic group. He talks a lot about economics. He may even talk about political cliques. But this is nowhere close to inciting ethnic hatred.

The ADL criticises Beck for comparing certain policies of the Nazis to those of the Obama administration. The Final Solution was a part of Nazi policy that was years in preparation. Examining Nazi policies on gun control and economics should not be off limits. The idea that freedom is lost in increments until such losses reach critical mass is perfectly acceptable. The ADL has distorted Glenn Beck's comparison of modern leftists to the Nazis of the 1930's. History can not be kept in a hermetically sealed plastic cube on a pedestal. It is perfectly legitimate to examine the present in light of the past. You can disagree with Glenn Beck. You may even think he is extremist. But his views do not make him worthy of scrutiny on grounds of bigotry.

The ADL has staked out a section of the political spectrum by taking on Glenn Beck. Those who are competent to do so can and should debate his political and economic ideas. But the ADL should be concerned with exposing and combating bigotry. It has muddied the waters in taking on Glenn Beck. This could damage its credibility in the future when its voice and prestige is called for. And that would be a shame.

Reprinted with permission from Rudistettner.com
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scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: Glenn Beck has been under fire on all fronts from the Obama Administration. This was even before Glenn Beck openly voiced that he thought Obama himself was a racist. Given Obama remarks and remarks of his wifes it is not a so far fetched view. Certainly using words like whitey in speeches is apparently appropriate now. Somehow being black with political power for some Black Americans is a chance to right all the wrongs done to all blacks throughout history.

My question is are black americans oppressed now? Some might say yes they are oppressed look at all the young black americans in jail. Are they in jail due to oppression or are they in jail for breaking laws? Some say because of oppression but there is a physiological aspect that comes into play with all of this. If our President holds racists views is it far from reality that alot of the black community holds those same racists views. I honestly could not tell you but, intill we answer simple questions like what makes a young man do crime will we ever come to the bottom of the issue. I myself do not think it is a racial issue that there are more black males in jail than white males. I think it is more of a psychological barrier the black community needs to overcome. Is it because there are less jobs in the inner cities and the majority of the black americans live in the inner cities? Intill we get over our racial intollarance will we ever be able to find the true cause of the problem.

If anyone knows Glenn Beck and they say he is somehow a racists man then you certainly need to watch him more. He could careless who is in office. What he does care about is where our country is headed.

If you know anything about how a war is fought you will soon find out the easiest way to destroy your enemy is through confusion. You take out their communication first, your turn the enemy on itself and in the amidst the chaos and confusion you execute your plan of attack.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: Is this not exactly what happened when Hitler rose to power to usher in his agenda. Not saying Obama is Hitler, what I am saying the similarities with Hitler are so clear. In order for socialism and the New World order to be ushered in you need to follow in Hitlers footsteps. Socialism and the New World order is not about freedoms it is about the lack of them. Taking away from one person and giving it to another. A ploy to make socialism and the NWO sound appeasing to the masses but what it really is about is a wolf in sheeps clothing. A way to control man economically, to hold reign over every aspect of their life for the benefit of the few leaders at the top.

Is it not more apparent than it has anytime before all this began, about the lies and cover ups? Why would someone lie about how the stimulus plan is working wonders when the evidence says likewise? Why would someone lie about the number of jobs created by the stimulus? Why would they lie to us about the global warming? Why would they lie to everyone saying 45,000 lives will be saved by the Health Care Bill, when we all know the truth that anyone can get care if it is a medical emergency. Why did they lie saying we would get transparency? Are these not questions worth answering truthfully?

If you can not answer these questions truthfully then you really don't care about what is happening, you just disagree to disagree no more no less.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
26 months ago: Glen Beck feeds his own fears and those of the country by conjuring from thin air wild eyed conspiracy theories that have little basis in reality. The danger to Obama and the country is that there is an armed and fanatical part of the country that is all to eager to act on their fears. Death threats to the president are 5 times what they were under Bush's extreme presidency, during which he actually did erode our constitutional rights, take away our freedoms triple the debt and all of the other things Obama is now being accused of without basis. What glen Beck is doing is nothing less than inciting people to riot.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: Rudi, It's no secret that those on the far left and right have a strong propensity for comparing their political opposites to Hitler, and the ADL has been entirely consistent in exposing those who inappropriately play the Hitler card, and thereby trivialize the holocaust in the process.

As for damaging one's credibility, I think that would be you. The ADL has appropriately called out Beck for his incendiary bombast as noted, but since you inexplicably find political affinity with Beck, your sense of objectivity is obviously skewed. So you resort to making non-excuses for Beck and attacking the ADL in the process - how sad.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: Tell me one racists comment Glenn Beck made? It is funny how some preach freedom but then on the other hand want to use the law to force people to stop exercising the right to free press. Is this not what Obama is attempting to do? Is that not what you and Al are attempting to do. Calling all that don't agree terrorists.

The fact is mark if you want to point the finger you can not help to belittle the writer. You do the same your accusing of others of doing. What a hypocrite and spinless person you are.

One question so calling people whitey in a speech is not a racist comment?

"The danger to Obama and the country is that there is an armed and fanatical part of the country that is all to eager to act on their fears. "

So who is using this above quote as an excuse? Glenn Beck a gun toting fanatic that is something new. Al don't cross that line Siempre crossed just to attempt to prove your point. Siempre said the same things and I have not one ounce of respect for him. If anything you are causing fear.

"Bush's extreme presidency, during which he actually did erode our constitutional rights, take away our freedoms triple the debt and all of the other things Obama is now being accused of without basis. "

Actually this is only partly true. Obama has done plenty of damage himself. He would have done the same actions as Bush. He is using the war as a personal political agenda,atleast under Bush if we needed troops we got the troops over their. The congressional left was good at putting our troops in harm way as is Obama.. Obama earlier this year redefined what a domestic terrorist was. That is a fact. He redefined in to include religious groups and anyone the he thinks hates another. By him redefining that list he is taking part in it, he is supporting it. He is supporting the same views as Bush but the left is in psychological denial to realize this.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: "Glen Beck feeds his own fears and those of the country by conjuring from thin air wild eyed conspiracy theories that have little basis in reality. The danger to Obama and the country is that there is an armed and fanatical part of the country that is all to eager to act on their fears. Death threats to the president are 5 times what they were under Bush's extreme presidency, during which he actually did erode our constitutional rights, take away our freedoms triple the debt and all of the other things Obama is now being accused of without basis. What glen Beck is doing is nothing less than inciting people to riot. "

It is funny what people are willing to say about a person they don't even know. That they don't even watch. Glenn Beck is inciting riots? If you ever listened to Glenn Beck he is not the riot type of guy he is the guy that knows how to practice his freedoms to expose what is really happening. It is just people of the left want to hang him and are willing to use an unfound bias accusations to do it. Glenn Beck does not condone violence but if you would has actually watched his show you would know this.

If anything Al you don't trust our system enough, you think we need a system to keep the "trouble makers" in check. You are the very people he talks about. Many want to refound this country instead of burning flags and strapping on bombs they are the ones running our country.
26 months ago: Never forget that when you are discussing obama with a Lefty he/she will ALWAYS pull the race card. It is a great deflection that works with most and puts the other person in a defensive stance. Lefty's actually hate any political discussions unless with other Lefty's, and then the topic is how nasty the conservatives are. Save your breath and the calories used in typing trying to convince them. obama is their god, their idol, and savior. He stands for all things Socialist and is doing fantastic job according to them. Be sure to check your brain at the door like they have.

scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: "holocaust"

Their is so much more to Hitler than the holocaust. The holocaust was the outcome of hate but if you don't take into account how he rose to power we are doomed to repeat the past. The holocaust is only part of the full story..so trivializing as you say Mark. If anything you are under estimating the extent of Nazi Germany and why Hitler rose to power, it was not by happened chance. Many finical donors helped and financed his evil.
Ivan Popovich
Ivan Popovich
New York, NY
26 months ago: Beck, many like him and even those further on the right and left paint themselves as representing the "true" view of the majority of Americans. They use fear and innuendo to boost their self importance and ratings with no regard for the impact they may be having on the weak, hurting, disenchanted or easily influenced. Freedom of speech is a right, but with freedoms and rights come responsibilities. Beck and others don't seem to get that part.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: Your intolerance is befitting you Ivan. All these accusations at Glenn Beck but I have not heard one quote that he made towards inciting violence, racism aimed at others, intolerance of the liberal's freedom of speech, him calling on the "armed and fanatical part of the country". If you want to make a case against Beck then do it but at least quote him and show me his racists violent comments. Or his imaginary comments of him calling for Americans to assassinate a President? All I am hearing is the left and some weak mined conservatives calling for freedom of speech to be infringed because they don't agree with his mainstream and popular views. That is weak, pathetic and Unconstitutional on your guys part. You people actually call yourself Americans?
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: "Save your breath and the calories used in typing trying to convince them. obama is their god, their idol, and savior."

I hear you there alot of questions I have asked but not one substantiated quote to back it. Just shows you a select few groups in this country have decided our system is broken and intolerance of anyones views is just one twig on the dying tree. The change they want is to refound this country nothing less nothing more. If anything you will be seeing a shift of the intolerance towards people wanting to dismantle our country. You will see an intolerance towards socialistic thinkers. They know this is their only chance for the next 50 years and they are making the best, I should say the worst of it. The last time they had a chance it took decades to realize those systems they setup are falling to pieces. Talk about irresponsible and Unamerican.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: Scot,

Of course the Nazi's commited many lesser atrocities before the holocaust and stifled freedom of exprsession to the extreme. For example the Night of the Long Knives in 1934 when thousands of political opponents were arrested and hundeds aassisainted by the paramilitary Brownshirts.

There was all-ecompassing censorship; complete control of the press, burning of books, and many German artists were branded as enemies of the state and a threat to German culture for producing what was called 'dengenerate art'. Homosexuals were arrested, imprisoned, and many thousands put in concentration camps. Ironically one of the books burned at an event institgated by Joseph Goebbels was Heinrich Heine's Almansor, in which he suggests, "Where they burn books, they will ultimately also burn people."

Now can you cite instances where the Obama administration is engaging in political assisainations of their GOP opponents, sponsoring book burnings and usurping the right of theatrical buffoons like Glenn Beck from spewing their false comparisons and trivilizing the Nazi atrocities in the process?

When it comes to promotion of censorship, book burnings, and anti-homosexual sentiment, isn't that more in the domain of Christian fundamenslits? In fact, one Baptist Church calls Book Burning a true Christian Tradition. See:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1002/bookburning.html
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: False comparison what is false about the Obama Administration trying to persuade by calling for the head of the main stream media to not consider Fox News not a news agency. They did this for a reason so the President would not have to deal with them at all. If this is not attempting to crush the Freedom of Press then I don't know what is. This is past intolerance on the Administrations part they are acting on it.

Not including the Obama Administration called for anyone to report by email if they don't agree with some posting on the internet. Again if this is not an attempt to hold sway what is wrote on the internet then I don't know what is. He is calling for whistle blowers although I think that term does not best describe what he is doing and is too light of a term. Hitler also did the same thing. Friends turned on friends, neighbors on neighbors to get on the good side of the Nazi Leaders. Nazi sympathizers. Must I go on?

Rudi has given a strong case I have heard no argument set against Rudi that is not written off as extreme censorship. This is an attempt to incorporate extreme censorship period.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: Even the previous White House press Secretary Dana Perino weighed in on Obama's attempt to squelched freedom of the press.

"CHRIS WALLACE, HOST: Enough. I'm tired of asking my wacky question. I want to turn to one last thing, and that is the latest chapter in the Obama White House's war on Fox News and what some people are calling the administration's Chicago way of doing business.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEAN CONNERY AS JIM MALONE: He pulls a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WALLACE: That's the Chicago way. You've got to love Sean Connery in that.

Dana, the latest chapter in the Chicago way was that the administration made an effort this week to use the White House pool -- that's the -- all the five major networks -- to try to exclude Fox from interviewing pay czar Ken Feinberg."
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: continued.. "The White House now says, "Well, it was just an honest mistake." Question: When you were in the Bush White House, did you ever try to do that against CBS when they were trashing President Bush? Or do you know of any White House that's ever tried to use the White House pool to eliminate somebody, to kick somebody out?

DANA PERINO, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Certainly not with the pool. I mean, there are ways to exclude doing interviews with other networks, such as what happened to Fox News about four weeks ago when President Obama did all the other networks and decided not to do this one.

But you never use the pool. It's a huge no-no. And I was glad to see that the reporters in the -- in the room decided to stand up and have solidarity, because they could be next in this Chicago-style way.

WALLACE: And what do you make -- it was happening as we were on the air a week ago today -- of Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod going on other Sunday talk shows and, in effect, lecturing the mainstream media Fox is not a legitimate news organization and don't follow them?

PERINO: That was a coordinated, calculated attack. It was unbecoming. And if you look at some of the coverage of what mainstream media covers when, for example, somebody like a Hugo Chavez shuts down television stations, he calls them illegitimate.

Now, I'm not suggesting that this White House believes that they are going to come over here and shut down Fox News.

But they are defining a narrative in their first year, and it's going to be very hard to recover from it."
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago:
The best thing they could do is try to find a way to, you know, give a -- send out an olive branch, try to get this behind them and to move on.

WALLACE: You were telling me earlier -- and we've only got about 45 seconds left -- that you deal with the free press in emerging democracies and you worry about the message being sent.

PERINO: Every -- everyone across the world watches and listens to everything that the White House is saying."

Through our State Department, we are trying to help emerging democracies get journalists and government officials to talk to one another, because freedom of the press is essential to any democracy. Believe me, they are watching this, and they have -- surely are raising questions.

And the next time we go to them and say, "You want to make sure that you have reporters covering this," they'll say, "Why should we do that? You don't."

WALLACE: Thank you, Dana."
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: Finally this is not some made up conspiracy these are facts. The only thing I hear from the other side is intolerance. The other side past debating and will attempt and condone any use or over extension of the power the Presidency comes with, no matter how Unconstitutional, to shove their agenda down our throats period.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
26 months ago: Glen Beck may not come right on out and say that he wants people to assassinate the president, but by telling people to take their country back, he is coming pretty close to that. By attacking Obama as a racist and saying that he hates white people he is coming close to inciting violence to those who already hate blacks.
"Beck: Obama has 'exposed himself as a guy' with 'a deep seated hatred for white people'" http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907280008

Glen Beck as an entertainer is fine and I don't advocate censoring him. I just think it is irresponsible of him to embrace any wild conspiracy theory that comes down the road, thus enabling the whackos that don't need much of an excuse.

The problem is that he has cult like followers who think that he is the only one in the world that is speaking the truth. as a leader he has a responsibility to calm down his followers instead of fanning the flames.

"Beck criticized Obama for encouraging volunteerism. He, of course, connected it to communism. Then he went on to argue that Obama has the media in the palm of his hand, relating it to Mao’s China again. “Obama controls the message through the media he holds in his pocket, or in his little hand. And soon, if you disobey, he’ll just go [Beck slaps his hand].”
http://www.mndaily.com/2009/10/28/glenn-beck-conundrum

scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: So tell me you never answered my question do you believe using the word whitey in a speech is not racist? I can go down a complete credible list of why he thinks Obama is racist but you would simply brush it off saying he is a wacko. It is not only Obama though some of his followers use the same terms as he does, playing the race card to demonize their opponents.

Simply put this is not what he says but what he stands for is why people are quick to say it is ok if his freedom of press is squelched, as long as it is not their freedom of press that support their view point. This is what it really is all about.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: "calm down his followers instead of fanning the flames."

So your saying to calm down his followers against exposing Obama for what he is and what he is really doing? You want him to lighten it up? Why exactly? Because you think he is inciting violence and subconsciously telling his followers to assassinate a President? If that is not a conspiracy theory then I do not know what one is.

The fact of it is Glenn Beck has told his "followers" how to combat against the current Administration and that is through contacting your local and regional representatives and getting out their and voting these people out of office. I already knew this though but I am sure some innocent person out their that can not think for themselves is believing those things your claiming..... Gimme a break.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: The whole inciting violence argument just urks me the wrong way. People don't take into account what this type or way of thinking can lead to.

I forget the ladies name she is news announcer on link tv I watched in a video where she was beat down by riot police because apparently some guy in the demonstration decided to get violent towards the police. But now it somehow ok for her to get beat down yelling "I am a reporter , I am reporter here is my credentials." Now it is ok for the riot police to beat down the whole crowd reporters and all. If that is not Unconstitutional then I don't know what is. We have a Right to peaceably assemble. So you can yell inciting violence all you want but I hope someday for your sake the shoe is not on the other foot.
Ivan Popovich
Ivan Popovich
New York, NY
26 months ago: There is nothing wrong with pointing out that criticism of Beck is justified. Both the criticism of Beck (and other polarizing journalists)is free speech too. The door swings both ways. Denouncing people who make irresponsible statements (FEMA camps!)does not mean that those people worship at the alter of Obama. It is possible to be disappointed in the government and for some of the crucial things that need to be accomplished.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: The point is Ivan that intolerance the left and the Obama Administration is no longer justified criticism they mean to shut his mouth and will do anything no matter how unethical to do it.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: "The fact of it is Glenn Beck has told his "followers" how to combat against the current Administration and that is through contacting your local and regional representatives and getting out their and voting these people out of office."

You can rest assure if Glenn Beck did not do that episode about taking a step back and telling his viewers he is not about inciting violence or other violent measures, then I would think he was just another racist bigot inciting violence. But he is not.

I would like to think his way of thinking is alot like mine where common sense plays a big role. Though I don't need his show no more than I need an Oprah Winnfrey show to shape my opinion. My opinion was shaped long before I watched Glenn Beck.

Just so happens is he is getting the word it. He is getting the word out we are steering towards a socialistic government where their is quantity not quality. He is exposing the 90+ czars in the white house a record number of czars no president after him will even touch. These czars get paid by our tax dollars but somehow they are not accountable to answer to Congress? This is not even taking into account all the extremist views they hold, something Glenn Beck exposes daily. Americans need to wake up and start using some common sense.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: It is not by some happen chance their is a Bill going through the House and Congress called the Czar Accountability Act.

I have never studied up the extent of influence these czars have but if I would be a betting man, they have a power influence and their actions supersede that of regular politicians that are accountable to congress.

I think the reason we have not been hearing much about this specifically what power they hold is because Americans would then have something to fear. No I don't bear all these views on my shoulders alone their are many in Congress that believe the same and they are acting against the puppets gone rogue.

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