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Gaddafi captured alive... why kill this POW?

Posted 7 months ago|81 comments|742 views
"Will that be paper... or GOLD?"
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Have you heard the saying... "Silence is Golden?" Well by some, that just might be the case with the killing of Muammar Qaddafi. Gaddafi was reportedly sitting on a 143.8-tonne $6.4-billion pot of gold... and many on good authority had him wanting to have his allies join him in a new gold currency, that would show the true colour of Eastern Oil. Similarily Saddam Hussein wanted to change currency... and was met with an invasion and death, an eerie deja vu to say the least.

Qaddafi Was Captured Alive—Who Killed Him?
http://www.theatlantic.com/international...

"Gaddafi sitting on 143 tonnes of gold in Libya...
If the dollar remains weak and we get further unrest in the Middle East, there is a very reasonable chance for gold to test the record high," Darren Heathcote, head of trading at Investec Australia, told Reuters.
Ousted Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak reportedly used the 18 days of protests against his rule to move his fortune - estimated at up to $64 billion - to untraceable accounts in Western countries.
Other countries buying large amounts of gold include Iran, China, Russia and India, the Times said."
http://www.smh.com.au/world/gaddafi-sitt...

Mutassim Gaddafi (also) captured alive - but then shown dead (VIDEO)
http://rt.com/news/mutassim-gaddafi-aliv...

Why is it that we (the West) only seem to be getting one side of the picture... while ex-MI5 agent Annie Machon, and others can see quite a different side, implicating NATO in a monetary and not a humanitarian reason to have Gaddafi dead. And now that the elephant is in the room... how can officials like Hillary Clinton call for another world leader's death, and not be held accountable?

It is almost to the point that the world is wondering why the West is in such denial...
why not just come right out like Hitler and say it? Could it be that we need Dr. Phil's "Counsel" on Foreign Relations... "Say it... I am a dirt-bag. I am a globalist homicidal dirt-bag. I am a card carrying member of the New World Order!"
Really, what difference would it make if we just accepted the truth?

I am not saying that Gaddafi was innocent, but why after all these years of dealing with him that the USA (Clinton) officially wanted him dead?
Something stinks, and it's not in Denmark this time!

Well now that Gaddafi's dead, we can rest for a bit knowing that we won't be asked (just yet) in the supermarket... "Will that be paper... or GOLD?"
UPDATE - 6 months ago
London-based journalist and author Afshin Rattansi says that killing (POW) Colonel Gaddafi is an international crime...
http://source1news.com/news-blog/index.p...
[BTW the video plug in on YouTube is mysteriously "missing"]
UPDATE - 6 months ago
"The jubilant reaction of NATO and the Western-backed National Transitional Council (NTC) to the violent end of Gaddafi has raised some serious concerns: what NATO and NTC did in handling Gaddafi's case is literally in serious violation of the international law---- namely, in relation to the Third Geneva Convention in 1929 and in relation to the UN Security Council Resolution No. 1973 in 2011----even if Gaddafi is a "dictator accused of bloody repression," but he was, after all, a prisoner of war when he was captured alive. He should by no means be lynched on the spot by whomever.

In accordance with the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, in 1948, "persons charged with genocide shall be tried by a competent tribunal of the State in the territory of which the act was committed, or by such international penal tribunal as may have jurisdiction with respect to those Contracting Parties which shall have accepted its jurisdiction."
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/in...
UPDATE - 3 months ago
Before this all happened Ian R Crane called it! Listen to this interview with RT... Gaddafi as other targeted leaders have one thing in common, they are completely out of debt to the World Bank...

Ian R Crane interview RT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1lw1N5gT...

...here Ian also says by fact and aired public interview, "that Osama Bin Laden was dead before the end of 2001" ...conspiracy fact!
http://rantrave.com/Rant/Obama-Bin-Laden...

UPDATE - 1 month ago
John Piper - "Don't waste your life"
http://dwynrhh6bluza.cloudfront.net/reso...
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7 months ago: Excerpt from an internet post dated June 10, 2010....

Well before the "Arab Spring".

The NWO global conspirators manifest their agenda through the skillful manipulation of human emotions, especially fear. In the past centuries, they have repeatedly utilized a contrivance that NWO researcher and author David Icke has characterized in his latest book, The Biggest Secret, as Problem, Reaction, and Solution.

The technique is as follows: Illuminati strategists create the Problem- by funding , assembling, and training an "opposition" group to stimulate turmoil in an established political power (sovereign country, region, continent, etc.) that they wish to impinge upon and thus create opposing factions in a conflict that the Illuminati themselves maneuvered into existence. In recent decades, so called "opposition" groups are usually identified in the media as 'freedom fighters' or 'liberators' (recently the KLA-Kosovo Liberation Army).

At the same time, the leader of the established political power where the conflict is being orchestrated is demonized and, on cue, referred to as 'another Hitler' (take your pick: Saddam Hussein, Milosevic, Kadaffi, etc.). The 'freedom fighters' are not infrequently assembled from a local criminal element (i.e. KLA, drug traffickers). In the spirit of true Machiavellian deceit, the same NWO strategists are equally involved in covertly arming and advising the leader of the established power as well (the Illuminati always profits from any armed conflict by loaning money, arming, and supplying all parties involved in a war).

The conflict is drawn to the world stage by the controlled media outlets with a barrage of photos and video tape reports of horrific and bloody atrocities suffered by innocent civilians. The cry goes up "Something has to be done!" And That is the desired Reaction (note: the same technique is presently being used to bring about gun control in the United States).

The NWO puppeteers then provide the Solution by sending in UN 'Peace Keepers' (Bosnia) or a UN 'Coalition Force' (Gulf War) or NATO Bombers and then ground troops (Kosovo). Once installed, the 'peace keepers' never leave (Bosnia, Kosovo). The idea is to have NWO controlled ground troops in all major countries or strategic areas where significant resistance to the New World Order takeover is likely to be encountered.
6 months ago: TCG,

I think the info here is as good as any to follow the "drowns" back to the mother-ship of deception and world unrest.... more of the article gets to some of the "nuts and bolts" ...

"The corporate portion of the NWO pyramid seems to be dominated by international bankers and the big pharmaceutical cartels, as well as other major multinational corporations. The Royal Family of England, namely Queen Elizabeth II and the House of Windsor, (who are, in fact, descendants of the German arm of European Royalty -the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family-changed the name to Windsor in 1914 ), are high level players, along with the British oligarchy which controls the upper strata of the Illuminati. The decision making Illuminati nerve centers of this effort are in the London (especially the City of London), Basel Switzerland, and Brussels (NATO headquarters)."
http://www.thebigstinkguide.com/archives...
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6 months ago: I wouldn't discount the Free Masons. They have had their hands in everything and are very, very powerful.
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6 months ago: I believe that the same old groups who want to takeover are out there still and always have been. They wait for the right time.
6 months ago: Sunny,

I would agree with you on the (not-so-free) Masons... I have had two brother in-laws who themselves were terrified of their own organization.
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7 months ago: I thought the illuminati had been defunct for a long time with their strategy of wanting to take over the entire world. In modern day it is plain and simple empowered organized crime wanting to take over. There seems to have been a rise in people who have emulated Hitler in a vulnerable situation. Who caused our vulnerbility. Many of these criminal leaders have been held up as demi gods for what reason? They kill their own families out of greed and distrust because of their paranoia. How many innocent men, woman, and children did those war lords kill. There will be another one to take over where they left off. Our Government knows what is going on. I don't think we should waste any emotion on these hitler like creatures.
7 months ago: CFR, Tri-Lateral, NWO, Illuminati, Bilderberg or whatever the flavor of the day.

You honestly think these members don't have their fingers in the political-economic cookie jar.

The economic troubles we face today were forecasted well in advance from insider leaks. They also predicted the Middle East would be a major target.

Don't think so?

You really want something to think about?

How does Occupy Wall Street play into their game of chess? You want to see martial law and suspension of elections? How about the round-up of citizens without due process? We are on the brink. Don't be blind.
7 months ago: Like Bill Cosby says...First you say it...then you do it...

(reprinted under writer guidelines)

Will the 2012 elections be suspended?
by Robert Ringer
Thursday, September 29, 2011

Left-wing Democratic Governor Beverly Perdue of North Carolina, who is headed for defeat in 2012, created quite a stir recently when she said at the Rotary Club in Cary, North Carolina:

I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress for two years and just tell them we won't hold it against them — whatever decisions they make — to just let them help this country recover. I really hope that someone can agree with me on that. You want people who don't worry about the next election.

Now Governor Perdue's aides claim she was just joking. Perhaps … but my wife has long held to a theory that when people joke about something, they really mean it, even if they aren't consciously aware of it. And my own experience over the years tends to support that theory.

Regardless, Governor Perdue's "joke" should be taken very seriously by all Americans. Not because she has the power to suspend the 2012 elections, but because Barack Obama has the power to do it. Longtime Voice of Sanity readers will recall that I started writing about this threat shortly after BHO was elected.

I based my concerns on what the Radical-in-Chief (credit Stanley Kurtz) actually wrote in his book Dreams from My Father, his audio and video trail, and, most important, his actions once he took office. Like millions of other Americans, I was deeply concerned about even the conservative media's refusal to speak openly about this self-professed collectivist who has been surrounded by far-left radicals all his life.

In an article back in September 2009, I wrote:

The single biggest threat to Americans is not healthcare. What we should be worrying about is a well-planned progressive "crisis" that will leave BHO "no choice" but to declare a state of emergency. As I have previously written, the Dems know they are going down in flames in 2010, so the only way they can prevent that from happening is to suspend elections.

I won't make a flat-out prediction that it's going to happen, because I'm hoping it won't. But it's something that all Americans should be prepared for, so if and when it does happen, they won't be fooled into welcoming a newer, slimmer version of Mussolini establishing a "temporary" dictatorship.

Thankfully, the state of emergency did not happen, but the Republican landslide did. This time around, however, there's much more at stake. If the Democrats lose both chambers of Congress and BHO is swept out of office, the far left will have failed to capitalize on (as Paul Krugman put it) "this progressive moment in American history."

Again, I'm not flatly predicting a crisis that would lead to Barack Obama's implementation of a state of emergency and postponement of the 2012 elections. But I do remain concerned about it. Remember, BHO has been ignoring Congress and doing pretty much whatever he pleases since the day he took office.

The Founding Fathers had good intentions when they wrote the Constitution, but, as the years have passed, its contents have become more theory than reality. I say theory, because they had no ironclad safeguard for preventing a president (or Congress) from ignoring the Constitution.

In The Federalist Papers, James Madison spelled out this danger pretty clearly when he warned, "In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: You must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself."

If by next spring or summer the polls show that Obama and congressional Democrats are going to be blown out of office, we would all be wise to be on the lookout for a phony crisis that could be used as a
7 months ago: an excuse for a state of emergency and suspension of the 2012 elections.

Even though many will laugh at you for saying it, spread the word, because the more people talk about it, the more reluctant Obama and his congressional allies would be to try such an extreme power grab. Never forget: This is the man who repeatedly stated, clearly and unequivocally, that he wanted to fundamentally transform the United States of America. And I have never seen any reason not to take him at his word.

Having said this, let's hope that elections are held in 2012 and that libertarians and strict constitutional conservatives take control of the executive and both houses of Congress. Then, let's be just as vigilant about making certain that they, too, understand the constitutional limitations on their power.

You have permission to reprint this article so long as you place the following wording at the end of the article:

Copyright © 2011 Robert Ringer
ROBERT RINGER is a New York Times #1 bestselling author and host of the highly acclaimed Liberty Education Interview Series, which features interviews with top political, economic, and social leaders. He has appeared on Fox News, Fox Business, The Tonight Show, Today, The Dennis Miller Show, Good Morning America, The Lars Larson Show, ABC Nightline, and The Charlie Rose Show, and has been the subject of feature articles in such major publications as Time, People, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune, Barron's, and The New York Times.
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7 months ago: I can't believe their every move is not monitored. Of course they have their fingers in everything.
It is like anything else.
Don't be blind. Whose is blind? We can't live in fear either. If people did not do anything such as OWS, then they can walk in and takeover. Sure, not everything is perfect and not everything is done with a good purpose in mind. I don't believe that there will be overall martial law imposed on citizens. Why put that fear out there? People won't take it in this country because we are too smart for it.
7 months ago: I didn't say anyone should live in fear. The mass of Americans in this country would not only accept it they would allow it out of fear that they might make it onto a secret list. Don't be naive. The only thing standing between military law and constitutional law right now is the gun toting teabaggers.

The liberals would be happy with their 2 cups of government rice.
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7 months ago: Not everybody is a teabagger who wants justice.
Every strong American isn't a teabagger?
You can be a "tea bag." I don't care.
One good thing about this Country is that people still have the right to choose.
We haven't gone down the tubes yet. We are born to stand up and fight back.
What about the Masons? Are they innocent bystanders? What are they selling lately?
7 months ago: Please enlighten us on the Masons.
6 months ago: Sunny,

The most sinister of all evil doers aren't those who have a "face" like Hitler, Stalin... and so on, it is those behind them that finance them and manipulate them with their wealth. These money groups that manipulate genocide and mass starvation... these are the worst parasites on this planet.
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6 months ago: They're "Monsters." One is the same as the other. The one that carries it out is a Mad Man. The one behind the scenes is the plotter manipulating the mad man.
I wouldn't want to live any other place than the US. We have a lot of territory with a lot of people. We are a big country that won't take it lying down.
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6 months ago: Funny thing about Hitler. Who I think was the worse person who ever lived earth.
Before he put the people into gas chambers, he made them take hot showers so that they could absorb the chemical on their skin quickly. These other clowns are just that.
6 months ago: The ironic thing is the world (not wearing the starspanledglasses) see the West as the terrorist and Monster pulverizing any in disagreement... being the very puppet of the money-changers!
6 months ago: The next generation will see the Bush's and the Obama's as their historical "Hitlers" ...who destroyed many sovereign nations and helped cause unrest in countless more. This is a sad commentary for one of the most blessed continents.
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6 months ago: We have to get from here to there first. Germany and Japan wanted to destroy the USA. It was either them or us. If Hitler wasn't stopped, where would we be today. For that matter, where would anyone be. We've had some pretty great leaders in the past, too, that had to pick up the pieces and protect the country. We have a lot to be proud of in the people who went out to fight for what they believed in and protected their homeland. I don't think the generations will look back on their country and say we were the culprits and cause of all the unrest and destruction of other nations.
6 months ago: Sunny,

I agree that if it wasn't for the actions of the USA in many cases we would be in bad shape, what I am referring to is the mess that they start these days that makes them no better than the ones they are trying to rid the world of.
6 months ago: Here to there? Try this one out if you can figure it out....

They have to get from "There to Here"... Are you smart enough to figure it out?

They have already landed on your shores...can't you see it?

Who are "They"

BTW, you forgot Stalin...."they"....
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7 months ago: We've come a long way from the capture of Saddam Hussein, who was captured, tried by his own people, and only then executed for his crimes against humanity.

Now we have a president of the United States joining in the celebration of the criminals who killed Qaddafi, in which the US was obviously complicit.

Geneva Convention
Art 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following
provisions:
(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria. To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited AT ANY TIME AND AT ANY PLACE whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

But, we have a president, and even people like Senator McCain, calling this war crime "vindication". I was really surprised to hear McCain's reaction, considering he spent so much time as a POW. Are we a vindictive people now?

Or is it just what these paid actors are paid to say?
7 months ago: Not to bust your bubble. We have a few peace loving, share the wealth, anti-war, international law, progressives on this site chanting the V for victo...uh...Vindication...
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7 months ago: Celebrating any death is wrong, and it is uncalled for by the President to do such a thing. Other countries burn our flag, celebrate shooting up in the air or killing many of our brave men and women, and pray for us to lose our Country and everything we stand for. Those that hate us celebrate beheading our journalist, Daniel Pearl, and shoot Americans dead. And while doing this it is an all out celebration for them.
This is the first time I've seen things get so bad, and we have no place to run or hide. What do you do?
This isn't the first time Presidents have had indescretions. It has always been that way. The President stood on his podium and announced how our troops are all being brought home and wants credit for a job well done. How long can they think they can pull the wool over the eyes of Americans.
7 months ago: My guess is your referring to Iraq with this statement...

The President stood on his podium and announced how our troops are all being brought home and wants credit for a job well done

Truth is Obama is only pulling out of Iraq because he will not have control after the contracted date and the Iraq government would not give him an extension.

I bet you a dollar that Iran is already making plans for January 1, 2012

Obama might get his chance in the spring of 2012 for a re-election courtesy of Iran.

I for one won't buy it. It's a global chess game.
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7 months ago: I knew the reason why when I wrote that. http://security.blogs.cnn.com/category/m...

The announcement follows news this month that a deal to keep American troops in Iraq past a December 31, 2011, deadline to withdraw was on shaky ground after Iraqi leadership said any remaining U.S. forces would not be granted immunity from Iraqi prosecution. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and other top brass have repeatedly said any deal to keep U.S. troops in Iraq beyond the withdrawal deadline must require a guarantee of legal protection for American soldiers.
7 months ago: Come on Sunny. You talk a fair load when not actively commenting in the appropriate threads.

"Celebrating any death is wrong, and it is uncalled for by the President to do such a thing."

Why don't you confront your RantRave site buddy Altruist in his post named "Vindication"?

That is exactly what he and his progressive, commie ilk did.
7 months ago: Is it just me or are the only ones outraged about the murder of a wounded POW that was unarmed seem to be...

War mongering conservatives that would have life-flighted him on the first medical evac ahead of our own soldiers with lesser wounds.

Is it just me? Am I that our of touch?
7 months ago: I'm with you... POW's are in need of protection until trial, anyone supporting of a cowardly act of assassination throw in their lot with such!
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7 months ago: Whenever I read the conspiracies regarding the Imperati and their conflicts between science and the church, the Free Masons weren't too far behind.
Masonic conspiracy theories are conspiracy theories involving Freemasonry; hundreds of such conspiracy theories have been described since the late 18th century.[1] Generally, these theories fall into three distinct categories: political (usually involving allegations of control of government, particularly in the United States and the United Kingdom), religious (usually involving allegations of anti-Christian or Satanic beliefs or practices), and cultural (usually involving popular entertainment). Many conspiracy theory writers have connected Freemasons (and the Knights Templar) with worship of the devil;[2][3][4][5][6] these ideas are based on misinterpretations of the doctrines of those organizations.[7]
Of the claims that Freemasonry exerts control over politics, perhaps the best-known example is the New World Order theory, but there are others. These mainly involve aspects and agencies of the United States government, but actual events outside the US (such as the Propaganda Due scandal in Italy) are often used to lend credence to claims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_con...
7 months ago: What group contols "Shriners Hospital for (Crippled) Children"? You think that is an off base question?
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7 months ago: No, of course not, that is what their secret order is all about.
That's how they operate, only there is another side to it like everything else that is made up of prominent and powerful people who are in Government.

Washington was a Mason. Isn't he pictured on the ceiling of the Capitol in a God like image. Most of all of them were and are today rich and powerful.
If you read Dan Browns Book - The Secrets of the Lost Symbol, he depicts a lot of historic information such as,
Flanked by Liberty and Victory in female form, George Washington ascends to the heavens and is transformed into a god in a 4,664-square-foot (433-square-meter) fresco painted on the ceiling of the U.S. Capitol's inner dome in Washington, D.C.
What does that say to you?
7 months ago: OK Sunny. I'll bite. While I am not and never have been an associate of any Mason group. I have to admit I have close family members that wear or wore high rank Mason rings. Since this post "Opened" the door to "Secret Socities" with the mention of NWO.

You are correct in your questions about the "Free Masons".

However, while you question their not letting the entire world into their club.
You might question, why that is.

Out of the whole list (adding Masons)...

CFR, Tri-Lateral, NWO, Illuminati, Bilderberg, Masons or whatever the flavor of the day.

You ask if they are charitable? I ask who else on that list is charitable?

Rail on the Masons all you want because you are not an invited member.

I'm not invited either. But to disgrace the good they do on a daily basis for all people around the world because your not invited to a closed meeting is petty.

What other group on that list can you say is focused on "Disabled Children"?

On the contrary. The others on that list want to do away with kids that won't be "productive" in adulthood.

Big difference............
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7 months ago: I can't believe this. You asked me to enlighten you, and I was gracious enough to tell you what it out there. I didn't have to.
Cloaking it isn't going to make it go away either.
They have been a secret society during the time of the Iluminati.
Who wants to be part of that club? Not I.
The most powerful people in the World involved in Government but because you and I aren't invited it makes them good? Did you listen to the video? It isn't me only, it is anyone who is aware. I don't push it into a blind corner because I may know someone. It is something I would never be proud of. Look into the history of who and what were Masons. Crime families are charitable. They don't see what they do on a daily basis is bad. You asked me. I didn't ask you to blast me for answering. No more.
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7 months ago: Cypress....I tend to suspect mostly anything and everything in these days, especially during these times. These are hard times and greed is everywhere.
You can't put your head in the sand and expect to know and see everything going on around you.
I'm just repeating what others have said and are saying. A lot of people are afraid of the Masons, I wonder why. Enough, I'm tired.
7 months ago: Sorry Sunny. Posting a Wkii links or what is written on Wiki as fact is like calling a Pumpkin (holiday spirit) a tree. Anyone including yourself can post and/or edit anything without proof on wiki. It ain't Enclopedia Britanica.

Try some counter links on the Masons that actually have credintials.
7 months ago: Come on Sunny. What other group on the "expanded" list does anything for Crippled Children. Most on the list want to do away with them as a direct weight on society.

Did I say "American" Crippled Children? Nope.

Many of the kids Shriners treats in their Hospitals are from other countries. You think Shriners cares what country they come from? You think Shriners asks for American insurance? You think they ask for direct payment in U.S. Dollars?

I know as I have seen it first hand.
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7 months ago: Lot's of organizations do good . Hell's Angels, for example.

And just because somebody high up in the Mason's is also in the Bilderbergers, doesn't mean they all are.

Two sides to every story.
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7 months ago: Not to mention the All Seeing Eye thing on the 1 $ bill. These people mean business. They are not finished with us.
The All-Seeing Eye – an important symbol within freemasonry and rosicrucian traditions for hundreds of years. Occultists understand the significance of this emblem: "Our beautiful seal is an expression of Freemasonry, an expression of occult ideas."
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/All...
Anything that is a secret organization has to be considered suspicious.
7 months ago: Any group taking up offerings for worthy causes should themselves not be praised... it is the ones who gave, not the organisations like Shriners. What do you call a Hell's Angel that makes a donation to a children's hospital??? A criminal! What was Capone after he provided soup-kitchens to the poor... after beating someone to death with a baseball bat.... A CRIMINAL. IF you are linked with any criminal group or force... guess what... no "good deed" will erase your sin... that is what we need Jesus... not another do-good organisation to cleanse us from our sins.
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6 months ago: You know, Truth, I've been to sit down Gala Events for worthy causes where large corporation were given praise for supporting the event. They sat down to big fancy meals and a great show with stars never thinking about the cause. The people I was sitting with didn't know the first thing about disabled people or what they were feeling. In fact they felt uncomfortable and said I probably was upset being there. This really put a damper on it.
6 months ago: Sunny,

Some of these events are just to further one's own interest, and is just a vehicle to promote their own selfish causes or get kick-backs. Some of the telethons are huge money-makers for those who put them on.
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7 months ago: If you are trying to say they are charitable "simple folk" that would be way off base. Talk about control and take over, I would think of them first.
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7 months ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4DzFSTuXkw

Watch the youtube George Busch on New World Order
FreeMasons New World Order Part 1/7

Listen to all of them say how we need a New World Order.
Is Obama a Mason?
7 months ago: ...?...Is Obama a Mason?

Not likely. But who knows? Ask him.
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6 months ago: Since I am related to someone who was in a high office, I proabably could.
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7 months ago: FreeMasons New World Order Part 1/7 OJSMOKE

They say 911 was the beginning.
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7 months ago: What are obamas masonic ties?
Actually, he is a Mason, although he has taken a demit as his current station in life does not permit attendance to Lodge. Read More »
Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_obama...
It is rumored that he is.
7 months ago: It's Bush's fault.
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7 months ago: You know Red. I think this has been going on for a long, long time.
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7 months ago: Cypress if you don't read it is not my fault.
I told you to look at the utube video, and you didn't. Listen to Bush, Sr., Clinton, Bush, Jr. Not me. Listen to what they say.
I'm not trying to change your mind. Who says that everyone is involved in a conspiracy. Only the big guys, the powerful ones I can't argue this if you don't read and try to cover it up. Masons have been around a very, very long time. Long enough to be influential in any kind of conspiracy. Your sweeping dirt under the rug. All orgaization do charity work. It is a good tax deduction for them. Everyone knows this. I just am trying to give you on hand information. Read about it.
7 months ago: Please Sunny. Go way back and look at some of my posts from years ago. You folks are way behind on the learning curve. Come back and talk afer you spend the time to read some of my posts from 2 years ago.
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6 months ago: I'll make you a deal. You look at that video with Bush and Clinton talking about One World Order, and I'll read your old posts.
6 months ago: The really sick thing about this Libyan business was that countries like France, Britain, and the USA (even though they tried to appear indifferent) blatantly ignored the UN resolution and armed the Libyan rebels, and bombed the country even though the UN resolution simply called for a clear air space. Does anyone seriously believe that Libya will now become a better place? You gotta be joking!
6 months ago: The problem is that Gaddafi wanted real value for "his" oil... GOLD. Now that would ruin the paper-scam that the money-changers of the world were perpetrating on the planet, basically their loans were being called in... the word in the East is that Gaddafi wanted to make a Union with Africa and help the citizens of Libya... this is what their people are saying... not that he was tormenting his own people.
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: Truth did Hillary actually celebrate the death of Gaddafi?
It seems so out of character for her.
6 months ago: Take your pick of the video to watch...

Google search.... youtube hillary clinton gaddafi

She looks pretty giddy to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: Okay. I didn't think she was like that.
6 months ago: Is Hillary Clinton laughing in the video when responding to the execution of Gaddafi?

Simple question.
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: You never know what it was.
I still have to read those post.
6 months ago: Read the post?

Watch the video.

Hillary Clinton U.S. Secrataty of State is in Muslim countries making a book tour and laughing out loud on video saying...

We came, we saw, He DIED, laughter

You think that statement went over well being presented by a female politician (or any male politician either) in a Muslim country / region?
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: Yeah, I think that was stupid on her part to say that.
It was bad judgment.
In the other videos, she doesn't act over joyous.
6 months ago: Sunny,

Candid looks at the response Hillary had to the death of Gaddafi reveal more of who she really is when not in a formal interview... if you hadn't noticed yet, these world leaders are a heartless bunch of war-mongers! These are the same on the other side... cheering a "shock and awe" campaign in Iraq that mercilessly killed and maimed many children, as bombs were rained down on residential areas of cities... not killing Saddam... and NOT FINDING A SINGLE WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION ...and not giving so much as an apology for their destruction of a sovereign nation.
6 months ago: It would seem the way it goes is... kill first and ask questions, point fingers or what ever... later! This is why the US is seen as criminal in the East.
6 months ago: Yep. Some of these folks are no better than the Muslims that celebrated the attacks and downing of the World Trade Center. Al least the Muslims own it.

These folks are Hypocrites.
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: I hope to God she isn't like that. It would be awfully disappointing. I don't know how she got into that office and reacts that way to tragedy. It seems against the grain.
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: It's all about power and money. Forget the people, we are all pawns in their world.
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: I'm kind of sick of hearing how bad the USA is no better then the trash out there that has been killing their own people.
6 months ago: Sunny,

No one wants to hear how our nations have changed over the past decade... they need to be held accountable for their actions and restrained from just doing whatever they want to whomever they want to do it to...
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: That's why there are people out there protesting. That's why there is protesting all over the world. What one person is going to resolve it? It takes the crowds of people who don't like it to make the change for better.
6 months ago: Stalinism is alive and well in America! Yea! I'm so proud of those Marxists!

What a bunch of mindless sheepeople...
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: Who are mindless sheep?
You think Americans are sheep led to slaughter?
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: Never mind. I get it.
6 months ago: London-based journalist and author Afshin Rattansi says that killing (POW) Colonel Gaddafi is an international crime...
http://source1news.com/news-blog/index.p...
[BTW the video plug in on YouTube is mysteriously "missing"]
6 months ago: OK I found a link...

POW Gaddafi Murder - International Crime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmz6TKhwS...
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: I'm sure it will be investigated. They will find some fall guy.
Then it will be forgotten. Business as usual.
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: Remember when Oliver North tried to warn Congress about Bin Laden.
One man tried. It takes a Country of people to be fed up enough to act and put things straight.
6 months ago: Absolutely.
sunny2
sunny2
6 months ago: Matt Lockshin, CREDO Action


This is what I get in my email.
5 months ago: "The West should not have allowed Muammar Gaddafi to be murdered in cold blood... The grim truth is that Gaddafi was murdered in cold blood, after his captors had indulged in an orgy of violence against his defenceless person, including sexual assault. So much for the brave new world of democracy that David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy promised us once he had been removed from power..."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...
3 months ago: Before this all happened Ian R Crane called it! Listen to this interview with RT... Gaddafi as other targeted leaders have one thing in common, they are completely out of debt to the World Bank...

Ian R Crane interview RT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1lw1N5gT...

...here Ian also says by fact and aired public interview, "that Osama Bin Laden was dead before the end of 2001" ...conspiracy fact!
http://rantrave.com/Rant/Obama-Bin-Laden...

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