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Eugenics and the Righteous Diaspora

Darwin's Plantation: Di Ni^^ger Die!" – Part II

I am writing this because my last edition has gotten so much recent attention. For sake of clarity I am going to re-state my case. Now, if anyone has any additional input, we will have a clean slate.

Human kind is the crowning achievement of God's creation. We are made in the image of God. We are not evolved animals.

The sad thing is that there are people out there that scoff even at the possibility of this reality. That surely can be considered to be retarding thinking. Unless one is omniscient, it is impossible to say with absolute certainty that there is no intelligence behind this universe especially when the evidence to the contrary is so glaringly obvious.

Ok. Some folks don't want a God. Fine. That's there issue not mine. They will have to answer for themselves, just as each of us will.

However, it becomes my issue when these certain individuals and groups want to mandate the unconditional acceptance their very own religion. A religion no less, of ultimate purposelessness and moral and ethical relativism.

It becomes my issue when these particular people outright attack others as ignorant and uninformed when we won't drink their primordial Kool-Aid. It also becomes my issue when this foolishness is taught as the unquestionable truth to our children. It really becomes my issue when this teaching is used to kill off members of my community without flinching and without remorse. That's my issue.

There is not a shred of scientific evidence that backs up abiogeneis or spontaneous generation. NOT A SHRED. Only life gives rise to life. That is a proven FACT. In spite of that there are those out there who will still believe that on blind faith.

Monkey to man evolution: From the jungles to the Palace.

Most of the time these so-called evolutionary scientists don't even bother to show you the meager fragments and pieces of bones they have found scattered for miles to compile one-eighth of a monkey man skeleton. Invariable some poor extinct, and obviously non-human, ape is discovered and used.

There have been plenty of straight-up fabrications along the way as well. A literal parade of fakes and non-human fragments are continuously used to substantiate a myth that only the most gullible or ignorant can possibly believe without question.

Charles Darwin has supposedly "proven" that all races descended from apes or primates if you will. Based on his assumption or "proof", some races have "evolved" more than others. In his opinion the white races had evolved more than any of the other "races." This pseudo-science has thus given validation to a barbaric mind-set that has killed millions in its path and continues to do so. Auschwitz anyone?

"How can this be in this day and age?, you say. Well there are groups of folks out there who continue to follow this racist dogma of human evolution as taught by Mr. Darwin and his minions. On top of that, we have those who will not even admit that it is a racist dogma and make excuses for it rather than repudiating it for the repugnant lie that it is. They bring up other racist groups or organizations as a side issue and an excuse for not renouncing this garbage. As if putting other garbage alongside this mess is going to make it stink less.

But then again, why repudiate what one deep down believes to be the actual truth? Right?

Charles Darwin's pseudo science has given validation and support to the likes the Nazis, the KKK and the eugenics groups. That's a fact whether certain folks want to admit it or not.

Anyone who believes Margaret Sanger founded Planned Parenthood out of the kindness of her heart has a whole lot of homework to do. Anyone who believes PP's original intent was to provide family counseling and a safe environment for a woman to have an abortion needs to really do their research. You have missed the boat.

If Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. were alive today I am confident that he would renounce any affiliation with this heinous group.

Margaret Sanger was not up front about her intentions. She and her ilk duped the masses and current day leadership of the time into thinking that her organization was going to provide a useful and beneficial community service.

"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members". M. Sanger

Hoodwinked and bushwhacked at the same time. But not all ministers are so foolish.

"The Negro Project was the foundation of today's industrialized abortion industry and how its pioneer, Margaret Sanger, who is still lauded by liberals as a human rights crusader, deliberately set out to sterilize blacks and encourage abortion of black babies in pursuit of a eugenicist drive to create a racially superior master race, a goal she shared with her close friend Adolph Hitler, and one that continues to reverberate through the generations as over 1,700 black babies are killed in the United States every day." – Rev. Clenard Childress

There are plenty of other groups out there that have far better intentions and could use the funding that Planned Parenthood monopolizes. Groups like Birthright International http://www.birthright.org/ or even faith-based alternatives to Sanger's progeny deserve the funding that PP is using to exterminate "undesirables".

If Planned Parenthood was actually doing the job that it's claiming it exists for, we would see FEWER abortions not more, don't you think?

If these centers were actually counseling, teaching people the dangers of abortion, all the various side effects and the fact that they are not just removing a fetus, but terminating a life the results would be far different.

If actual sexual education were going on at PP such as teaching the role of abstinence, counseling on taking mature sexual responsibility, disease prevention and going over potential physical and psychological dangers such the impact would be beneficial rather than reprehensible. I'm not talking about scare tactics. I'm talking about sharing the whole picture. Not candy coating anything but dispensing the truth. The whole truth and nothing but the truth. If that were done PP could be truly applauded rather than disdained and put its shameful racist roots to bed.

However, it seems that PP is not going to do that in lieu of providing abortion on demand. Simple, no questions asked other than those to cover their murderous azzes. And the cash register goes "cha-ching!"

If this organization was as noble as it pretends to be, PP could have and present historical statistics and trend lines to showing us how their presence in the communities is having a significant impact on the bottom line of DECREASING the amount of abortions. This is not the case. No, they are the ever revolving door teaching abortion as a first line form of birth control.

Planned Parenthood is Planned Genocide.

That has not changed and it will not as long as our government sits by and not just accepts but endorses its practices.

In the first edition of my post some contributors were all over the map. Dodging rather than confronting the issue. Taking rabbit trails rather than dealing with the direct point of my article. One individual in particular actually spurred me to take up this subject again. This individual spouted more nonsense, dodged more specific issues, and went on more rabbit trails than I've ever seen since I've been here. That's saying something. Bet that as it may, the last go 'round was pretty good, but I'm hoping we can stay FOCUSED this time around.

FACT : Human beings have always been human beings.

FACT: There are no "races" of people that are evolutionarily superior to other groups.

FACT: Charles Darwin to his dying day taught that there exist certain people groups or "races" that are inferior and other groups that are superior. His race, Caucasian, being the superior.

FACT: Darwin was WRONG.

FACT: Even with total lack of scientific viability, this dogma has given rise and support to some of the most destructive, racist, and genocidal groups in the history of planet earth.

We can go on to other groups and individuals that have had negative impact on our civilization as well. Every group on this planet has at one time enslaved, exploited or damaged another group. Secular and religious alike have tortured, lynched, and banished those who they felt were inferior or unenlightened. Is that right? Absolutely not. Does that specifically absolve the Darwin religion of its responsibility for the damage that has been done as the result of its belief system? Again, absolutely not.

The portion of the title "Die Ni^^er Die!" which may offend some, has direct correlation to the specific use of this racist tenant of the Darwinism which teaches that certain people groups by their very nature are unfit for survival and the belief that natural selection will ultimately eliminate them.

That's bad enough. However, since the turn of the last century in particular, we have had many groups that have shown no intention of waiting for "nature to take its course" - they have taken matters into their own hands with violent, disgusting and genocidal results.

"The feeble nations of the world are necessarily giving way before the nobler varieties of mankind. "Hereditary Character and Talent" MacMillan's Magazine November 1864"

"The creed of Eugenics is founded upon the idea of evolution." Essays in Eugenics (1985) p.68
-- Francis Galton

Do you know who Ota Benga was and what happened to him and why? Do you even care?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ota_Benga

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news...

Did Charles Darwin invent racism? No. Are his teachings responsible for its continuance? Yes.

I don't see where Darwin ever owned a slave, burned a cross, sent folk to the gas chamber or aborted an unborn child. However, his pseudo-science has been used as the justification for it time and time again up to this very day.

Do I hate Charles Darwin? No. What I do hate however is –Social Darwinism.

Near the end of his life, Charles Darwin spoke of the "impossibility of conceiving this immense and wonderful universe … as the result of blind chance or necessity." "I feel compelled," he continued, "to look to a First Cause having an intelligent mind." No, it still seemed that the world had been willed into being. So he and the Richard Dawkins's of the world must part company at that juncture.

All that being said, Mr. Darwin has given has supposedly given "scientific" validation for one of the most heinous sins the world has ever known and there are folks out there who continue to kneel at that alter every day. This specific piece of the overall dogma has to be repudiated and renounced as complete quackery if we as a people are ever going to truly be able to grow up, respect and peacefully co-exist with each other successfully.

"Scientific" racism is still racism. That is also a fact. LORD help us.

Thank you for reading.

HN


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UPDATE - 7 months ago
There is a history here that many are simply uniformed about and unaware of. What is unfortunate is that there are still folks out there that want to either deny reality or if they understand, want to keep it hid from everyone else. That's not right.

"Truth crushed to earth will rise again"
MLK

I have not posted lies. What I have posted is history.

If more people knew the type of person Margaret Sanger was, and what her purpose and intention was in founding Planned Parenthood, there would be no way she would be honored and could have a tax-payer paid exhibit at the Smithsonian.

If more folks understood the relationship between Hitler and the teachings of racial superiority as contained and taught in Darwin's theory of evolution, folks would think twice and maybe three times before blindly accepting everything this man wrote as the unquestionable truth.

History is history.

If you want to kill a tree you don't clip the branches. You pull it out by the roots.

My motivation in writing this piece was to bring specific truth to the table. It doesn't matter to me that some want to keep this buried.

This is the right thing to do.

I've pulled the sheets off of it.
UPDATE - 7 months ago
All the spam here may have driven off actual, intelligent debate. If so, that's too bad.

Evidently some folks want all the attention and felt as though others could not deal with this subject so they sought to monopolize everything. Pretty sick and highly ineffective strategy.

Fact of the matter is that at this point several hundred people have clicked on and read this post. Thank God. This information needs to get out.

There are plenty of people out there who do not have this information. Just like there are plenty out there that have it and want to keep it hid. Well, not on my watch.

Planned Parenthood is Planned Genocide in disguise.

I am working here and elsewhere to see to it that this on-going atrocity is exposed and understood. I live for the day when more people actually know the truth about the insidious history of this organization and its apparently demon possessed founder.

As for Darwin, that speaks for itself.

The racist dogma espoused in the human evolution "theory" is the type of bigote3d pseudo-science and fairy tale that gives rise to the type of folks that want to run and hide from the truth of it or keep hid from others.

It's proven right here in some of the inane and inept comments below that there is a retarded element that does not want others to even see the history, much less evaluate it for themselves and come to their own understanding.

Counterproductive? Only if the agenda is to continue spreading lies and dodge the actual history of things.

All of this is a glass house waiting to fall. As more people actually study and think, it does not have a chance of continuing to dupe the masses. That is a very good thing.

Everyone may not get it. Not everyone may care. But there are plenty out there that will and do. That is what is going to cause the revolution that so many who claim to have compassion for humanity are afraid of.

The proof is in the pudding.
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Truthbrary
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7 months ago: Huey,

You do a good job of intelligently presenting your case... I hope the responses to it are at least as such. No doubt everyone reading must at least address the facts, and when that is done, you won't find much objection. Good job!
Truthbrary
Truthbrary
Canada
7 months ago: Huey,

You didn't post a link to your former work, that was excellent too, so I am taking the liberty, hope you don't mind...
http://www.rantrave.com/Rave/Darwins-Pla...
Truthbrary
Truthbrary
Canada
7 months ago: I say again thanks Huey, for exposing this racial hate against ALL HUMANITY in it's racial hate against Blacks and anyone else not wearing a white hood! You went the extra mile to do your homework... I encourage everone with a conscience to share this within their social network.
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: Truthbrary: Did Huey giggle when you kissed him just now?
7 months ago: Jealous?
7 months ago: I totally agree with them both. I didn't giggle.
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: Kiss Kiss Kiss
7 months ago: Thanks. Still waiting for some intelligent rebuttals or comments that actually deal with the issues. So far Stan took a stab at it then fell apart.

Owlafaye, as usual is saying nothing of relevance. Spam, spam, spam.
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owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: Unfortunately the "facts" in the post are his facts. Just because he says so doesn't make them so and before you can address the facts it is necessary to establish if they are facts.

Huey would rather dismiss this obvious step...it interferes with his sparse knowledge in almost all subjects of which he writes.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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7 months ago: And just because you say they are not facts does not make your opinion true either. Now that we are dealing in facts, and not calling people "pond scum" as you did a little further down the page, (you do realize that people aren't actually pond scum, right?) then why don't you begin addressing the facts, and quit already with the character assassinations.

I have also noticed a preponderance of animosity by you toward Huey, and I can't fathom why. Is it that he's the only black man here, and he dared to give the white establishment called Darwinism some lip? You seem to know a lot about the way the KKK operates.


owlafaye
Dayton, WA
2 hours ago: KKK'ers don't kill black men like you Huey...they kidnap you, tear off all your clothes, paint you white and then dump you off in the town square: white and naked.
7 months ago: A.

1. There you are scoffing at the possibility of the virtual entirety of the scientific community understanding that evolution is an inherrent component of life.

2. Then, perhaps because of your expertise in biology, you scoff at people not believing other than what you dogmatically say are "FACTS".

3. Then you say "The sad thing is that there are people out there that scoff even at the possibility of [Huey's] reality. That surely can be considered to be retarding thinking."

4. What kind of thinking are you scoffingly demonstrating, then?

B.

1. "Only life gives rise to life." you say.

2. You might have noticed that not a single plant or animal on the planet was created by God. Indeed, all life on the planet is the offspring of other life.


C.

1. "If Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. were alive today I am confident that he would renounce any affiliation with this heinous group. ", you say.

2. If you live in a world where your confidence entitles you to speak for MLK, contrary to his own expressed views, then I wonder at your arrogance. It might explain why facts bounce off your prejudices.

3. Would you like me to speak for MLK?

D. Read your Bible if you want to see more deeply into the roots of racism.

E. You demonstrated bigotry in your misinformed attacks on Charles Darwin's attempts at expanding human knowledge.

F. Your arguments pertaining to Darwin are contra-factual and non-sequiturs.

G. You berate your commentors for not staying "FOCUSED" on your rant. The more focus your rant gets, the worse it looks.

Put words into MLKs mouth all you like. Misrepresent Darwin all you like. But, I don't think you have learned anything relevant since the last go-round on your hobby-horse.
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: Well Stan, you are correct...not that this will influence Huey in any way.

The important thing is to keep people like this on the hot seat, and you do a good job of that.

They create their own prison where they are tied to a chain and it is the right and duty of enlightened men to yank that chain everytime they run across these people.
7 months ago: Thanks. That's very kind.
7 months ago: Here's for you Stan – at least you have stayed on topic. I've appreciated our debates in the past and I'm not going to let anyone else's noise, spam and whining, stop that from being the case going forward.

"There you are scoffing at the possibility of the virtual entirety of the scientific community understanding that evolution is an inherrent component of life. "

Where did I do that? There is a difference between micro and macro evolution. Also natural selection is not evolution, it has to do with adaptation.

"Then, perhaps because of your expertise in biology, you scoff at people not believing other than what you dogmatically say are "FACTS".

If those are not facts. Please knock them down one by one.

"Then you say "The sad thing is that there are people out there that scoff even at the possibility of [Huey's] reality. That surely can be considered to be retarding thinking."

" What kind of thinking are you scoffingly demonstrating, then?"

It's not a matter of my reality. There are plenty of folks throughout history that have believed in the likelihood or even the fact of the universe being intelligently designed. From Albert Einstein to quantum physicists like Max Planck and Werner Heisenberg. There are plenty of others as well.

"Only life gives rise to life." you say.

Not what I say. It's a fact. Show me an instance where that is not true. Any variation from that is not fact, it's theory.

"You might have noticed that not a single plant or animal on the planet was created by God. Indeed, all life on the planet is the offspring of other life. "

Life has to have an author. I rather be on that side than on the side of mathematically impossibility.

"If Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. were alive today I am confident that he would renounce any affiliation with this heinous group. ", you say. "

" If you live in a world where your confidence entitles you to speak for MLK, contrary to his own expressed views, then I wonder at your arrogance. It might explain why facts bounce off your prejudices. Would you like me to speak for MLK? "

Dr. King to his dying day never knew what Sanger had planned. If you feel he did than you don't have very much respect for the man. Margaret Sanger was out to wipe out what she felt were degenerate races and give rise to "Superman". Just like Hitler. I believe it is fair to say Dr King would not have been down with that program.

" Read your Bible if you want to see more deeply into the roots of racism."

Point out to me where Jesus Christ was a racist or taught racism?

" You demonstrated bigotry in your misinformed attacks on Charles Darwin's attempts at expanding human knowledge. "

I have no problem with Darwin's attempt to expand human knowledge. The problem comes in when his work is taken to be above criticism.

"Your arguments pertaining to Darwin are contra-factual and non-sequiturs."

My premises are sound and the logical flow is there. You just don't like my conclusions.

"You berate your commentors for not staying "FOCUSED" on your rant. The more focus your rant gets, the worse it looks. "

I've learned plenty since the last time around. It's unfortunate that the same people are skirting and dodging the main issues. What it shows me is that I am correct in my premise regarding those who refuse to see the whole picture.

BTW - That was not berating, that was pointing out the obvious. This post specifically has to do with the problem pieces of Darwin's theory and the results that it has had on humanity. At least you are dealing with the issues. Spam-O-Matic is not. That's an example lack of focus, right?

Anyways when this is over, I owe you a root beer.
7 months ago: Stan,

Are you still out there?

Right now, I think maybe you owe me one.

Root Beer, I say Root Beer, that is.
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: It will never be over Huey, decent people everywhere will always oppose you. You are essentially pond scum.
Out Of The Box
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7 months ago: Your definition of "decent people" seems to be ...well...different than most. But then again, that's what atheism is most renowned for; the ability to assign new meanings to otherwise well established concepts.
7 months ago: "You are essentially pond scum."

No YOU are pond scum. Isn't that what your religion teaches?
Truthbrary
Truthbrary
Canada
7 months ago: Stan,

You had me at "VIRTUAL" ...you said...

"you are scoffing at the possibility of the VIRTUAL entirety of the scientific community understanding that evolution is an inherrent component of life"

VIRTUAL:
Not physically existing as such but made by software to appear to do so...
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: as to your virtual comment...I don't believe there is anyone out there that will fall for that trick Truthbrary.

So son, where does that leave you?
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: and like a hobby horse with Huey aboard...they both get NOWHERE...laughter
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7 months ago: This "Red Neck", "Cracker" will sit on the side for a few hours to let this thread heat up a bit. I'm sure the old timers know where I stand on this issue.

Please Stanley...
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: Huey Newton watches FOX News RELIGIOUSLY...HaHahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhahahHahahahahhahahahaha
7 months ago: Sorry Olive. I'll need to run the puke posts by you to get back. Since your a Latch Key kid we don't expect too much after Mommie shows up with her new boyfriend. You never answered my question. You want to get into it? You think you can stick around after your junior high starts classes in a few weeks?

And yes, this statement has to do with your dream of Darwin and eugenics.

Seems like the site has found a bigger moronic A-Hole than me.

I'll need to dust off the trophy...or take them to task....

Ready to rumble?
Truthbrary
Truthbrary
Canada
7 months ago: TCG,

IF you only knew how much you make me laugh !:]
laughter laughter laughter

You say stuff a lot of people only wish they could !:]
7 months ago: I'm cool with that. All kidding aside. I'm not inhibited by my concerns of what people think of me. Life is not a Beauty Pagent. I'm not here to be named Mr. Universe. We all have a mission. Even owlafaye. His mission is to let me beat up on him until he prays to God that it stops. There might be more than one way to add converts. Have you prayed today owlafaye?
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: Huey hates his "black race" as well as his "white race" equally.

Huey believes he is outside of all men looking in.

His misery is a product of his own doing.
7 months ago: O -Dude

At least Stan addressed some of the issues to which I will respond. You have said nothing.

Misery? I baited you into another debate. Left whipped and bleeding last time. Here U are again.

Maybe this time you will actually address the specific issues I've raised this time.

Okay?

I re-iterate - "If you choose to chime in, please try to stay on topic, leave the straw men alone and keep the ad hominems and spam to a minimum (if you can).

Any sincere and direct questions you or anyone else asks will be addressed. That's how it's done.

Thanks. "

7 months ago: You are a head case and I knew that when I invited you back here.

Misery? What are you talking about.

I've got more compassion in my toe than you have in your whole body. To you life and death is a joke and you could care less about folks. Black folks in particular.

The purpose of this piece was not to draw a line in the sand of Darwinism versus Christianity. The specific purpose was to who how it has been uses in recent history to the destruction of lives.

Whether you like it or not, what I've posted is the truth.

I'm not a racist like you. Because first off there is no such thing. People come from different groups, not races.

Also the only hate here is coming from you. That's obvious.
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7 months ago: OliveOil, I'll need to come up with a good "Tag" for you but until that time I'll just refer to you as "Asta La Vista Baby".

So you think Huey "hates" his heritage?
Really? Yours is what in comparison?
7 months ago: I like what Morgan Freeman said here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P...


And this

Kiran Chetry: And you've said before, Morgan, that you're a 'man of god.' When you did this and so many of these questions were posed—

Freeman: When did I say I was a 'man of god'?

Chetry: You're not?

Freeman: [laughing} No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o. No no no no no.

Chetry: You're a 'man of faith'.

Freeman: Faith! There's a big difference.

Chetry: Alright, so, the question of faith leads us, most of the time, to a god. What is your view of faith?

Freeman: Questions of faith is whatever you actually believe is. We take a lot of what we're talking about in science on faith. We posit a theory… and until it's disproven, we have faith that it's true. If the mathematics work out, then it's true. Until it's proven to be untrue…
7 months ago: "Huey hates his "black race" as well as his "white race" equally."

Stan, is this where you think I'm coming from as well?
7 months ago: I'm not sure exactly what that was meant to imply.

I can't speak for Owlafaye, there, but racism coming from or towards people of any ethnicity is bad.

I think you and I agree that humanity is the "race" not black or white.

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7 months ago: I'm not looking for sides. I'm looking for objective consideration of what I've posted. This is not a joke. It's quite serious.

"They create their own prison where they are tied to a chain and it is the right and duty of enlightened men to yank that chain everytime they run across these people."

Do you believe that is where I'm coming from? Is that how YOU feel as well?

Your making that clear to me will better help me to understand your overall position on this issue.
7 months ago: With reference to Owlafaye, I would say that it seems to me you are indeed promoting an unsound and counterproductive dogma you have settled upon. I agree that its good to point such things out, so that you and others don't assume you are just promoting "FACTS".
7 months ago: With reference to Stan on Olagay. It seems to me you are counter productive when denouncing others as idiots while embracing a moron.
7 months ago: Funny. But don't think I'm claiming that anyone is an idiot.
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: I forgot to state that you hate yourself also Huey...quite obvious. You are not a happy boy.
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: Yes, humanity is the race but that doesn't console the inferiority that Huey feels. If Huey didn't walk around with a chip on his shoulder he would find that black people fit quite nicely into black, white, brown and yellow society in America. Huey goes out of his way to creat sensations surrounding his fantasies...and yes, there are a lot of morons out there.
owlafaye
owlafaye
Dayton, WA
7 months ago: I am sure you have noticed that all the reason, common sense, logic and facts in any argument you might present here, has absolutely NO EFFECT on these folks.

What they have going on here is pretty common on Internet message boards...a pack of people, ill-informed with an agenda that is tiresome, old hat, lacking in factual support etc. and a few educated people like you and I just enjoying ourselves.

They don't seem to realize that all of these arguments they presnt have been found to be wrong many many years ago. Not to say people don't hold onto foolish beliefs to the grave...they do...and this is how it spreads from generation to generation. "They have no ears"
7 months ago: "They don't seem to realize that all of these arguments they presnt have been found to be wrong many many years ago."

Amen. Ideas impervious to correction. Therefore, seemingly immortal. But I live in hope. The enlightenment continues.