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Ethnic Cleansing In South Africa

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Which community suffer from the highest murder rate in the world? If thoughts go through your mind of a gritty urban jungle, you are mistaken. The backdrop of the world's highest murder rate is some of the most beautiful landscapes in the world.

South African Afrikaaner farmers have since the fall of the apartheid regime fallen victim to a wave of murders that are appalling in their sadistic brutality. The small take in the robberies accompanying many of these murders is grotesquely overshadowed by the depravity that accompanies them. Many of the victims are elderly. Since crime statistics have to be approved by the government of South Africa, it is difficult to get a handle on the magnitude of the problem. The Dissecting Leftism blog reports as follows on this process of dispossession and extermination that has been banished from the mainstream of political discourse.



Italic"At the beginning of the decade there were 40,000 White farmers in South Africa and there have been is 3,037 murdered in racial genocide and more than 20,000 armed attacks perpetrated by groups of militant, young Black racists on commercial farmers, since the ANC came to power in 1994. This is certainly higher as the South African government and police, with the world’s press keep it covered up. Boers are often tortured or raped first, by boiling water forced down their throats, tendons cut, burnings, personal humiliations - most perpetrators are protected by Blacks within government and the police and not tried. Now ask yourselves, gentle readers, when did you see this on television news or read about it in your quality newspaper?

The idealism that accompanied the birth of new South Africa has been destroyed by black rule yet the rainbow nation is still a fantasy to Western elites. They need to believe in it or face the reality that racial equality does not exist. The dream of truth and reconciliation and the deification of Nelson Mandela make it hard to accept that after whites gave way to Blacks the Boer minority would be subjected to racial genocide. Boers, you see, have not been sentimentalised, are not figures of sympathy but dehumanised as racists so their murder is not seen as important."

The murder rate among Afrikaaner farmers has been estimated to be 310 per 100,000 people. A comparison of general homicide rates gives us an idea of how serious this problem is. The general homicide rate for the USA was 5.8 per 100,000 people in 2009. The general rate for South Africa has been 37.3 murders per 100,000 people in 2009. This means that the Afrikaner farmers ar being murdered at a rate that is 10 times the South African national average.

In an attempt to sanitise the problem, the South African government has banned the use of the term "farm murders". The intent is to present the farm murders as random events rather than the ethnically targeted murders that they really are.


Rather than step up police protection for the besieged farmers, the South African government has has actually scaled back police protection, leaving the farmers to their own devices to befend themselves. not so coincidentally, there has been attempts by the government to legally expropriate Afrkaner farms and hand them out to Blacks who are chosen as lucky recipients by the government.

"Shaya Ma Buru",( Kill the Boer) is an African national congress resistance song that is still sung at national gatherings. In the days of apartheid, "Boer" referred to Afrikaners in general, as well as the state at their disposal. The "Boer" of today is a farmer in the originally intended meaning of the Afrikaner word. He is disarmed in a state in which he is a grudgingly tolerated minority.


"Shaya Ma Buru" is hate speech. It is but one dimension of a general campaign of extermination and dispossession of South Africa's Afrikaners, who have no other homeland in the world. They are in a real sense one of South Africa's tribes.

Where do we go from here? Will South Africa make the same mistake made in Zimbabwe? Will it destroy its agricultural sector and plunge South Africa into inflation and economic chaos? Or will history go full circle with despairing Whites carving their own homeland and haven of safety out of a hostile country? Eugene Terre Blanche, head of the AWB (Afrikaaner Resistance movement) is reviled in the mainstream press as a Nazi. but what is wrong with defending a people that is threatened with ethnic cleansing? The Australian reports as follows on Mr. Terre Blanche.


"ARMS outstretched, his deep voice resonating around the town hall, the white-bearded speaker summoned the Afrikaner "volk" to battle, with rousing words from the past. "Now is not the time to be afraid," he shouted, to grumblings of approval from the audience of burly, khaki-clad farmers, their wives and children. "Now all true Afrikaners must reach out to each other and fight to the bitter end."

Eugene Terre'Blanche, the once-feared white supremacist leader in apartheid South Africa, is back. He is more subdued and circumspect than in his heyday in the 1980s, but his message has not, fundamentally, changed.

He told 300 supporters in this small, rundown farming town on the barren veld about 200km southwest of Johannesburg that he was answering the call of the boers (farmers) and revitalising the Nazi-style Afrikaner Resistance Movement (AWB) to save them from the oppression of the black African National Congress government. "Our country is being run by criminals who murder and rob. This land was the best, and they ruined it all," he cried to strong applause, dabbing the spittle off his beard with a neatly pressed handkerchief. "We are being oppressed again. We will rise again."



Who cares about the Afrikaner farmers at all? Has anyone stepped up to the plate to defend the Afrikaaners? Is not the campaign of ethnic cleansing being waged against the Afrikaaners worthy of condemnation? If he is indeed a Nazi, what has been his death toll? And if we are all pious opponents of his alleged Nazism, what has been the death toll of our disgraceful silence?

If South Africa's White minority is driven out, it will ultimately be its Black majority that will suffer. If the blind eyes that are now turned to the bleeding Afrikaaners do not open now, they will open to scenes of famine as are now seen in Zimbabwe. The curtain of silence that keeps the suffering of the Boers from international view is a blot of shame upon our generation. It is time for our silence to end.




The picture at the top of this article is of one of the victims of South Africa's "Farm Murders"


Reprinted with permission from Magdeburgerjoe.com A link is included below that would not fit the rantrave format.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26200371-32682,00.html
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THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
28 months ago: You are quite right about their problem.

But you do not mention what these whites done to the blacks to have it come back to them.

Hate and racism is in the ancestral blood of all mankind.

Decades of white racism and hate brought this back upon them. Most of these attackers are no more than un-educated savages.

Africans are no less savage than the whites who killed them for sport.

This problem must be solved from within the country. Because WHITES created this mess and must clean it up by learning to love each other.

White racism is still feeding this monster of a problem.

If one SIDE will not stop hating the other side won't.

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TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
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Philadelphia, PA
28 months ago: Wow, RONBOT, using one travesty as an excuse for another? Not good.

You're absolutely right Rudi. It's quite interesting that there are tons of movies about steve biko and nelson mandella and I haven't heard anything about this.

Thanks for sharing!
28 months ago: Thank you THE RONBOT HUNTER. You speak the truth...unbiased. That is the fact.....most people are ignorant to understand the counter effect of apartheid and other racial mass murder.
Rudi Stettner
Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
28 months ago: There will be peace when the farmers are sufficiently armed to repel those who seek to wipe them out. There should also be arms among the vast majority of law abiding Black South Africans, who are being victimised in a crime wave. Love does not thrive on an empty stomach. The businesses that will bring jobs and safety to South Africa require peace. Peace is created when good people can with force compel that it be respected. Although you are correct that apartheid created many of the social ills that now exist, part of the remedy is armed strength.
28 months ago: I doubt that. I don't think arming the locals (black people) in South Africa was the solution for apartheid. The solution is equal opportunity to access the recourse, education, health care, and everything. I am Ethiopian and we fought with Italy longtime ago. Even tho i live in the united states now, if Italy colonized my country and posses the majority of the recourse by force, i duno about you, but trust me we will all fight with all we've got. History shoes even if Italy was armed with big weapons, we defeat the army and send them back home with shame.

So i don't think weapon is the answer for such case, that will rather give the locals more excuse to do what ever they wish. A lot of African countries have a lot of problems we need to solve, but seeing some other peoples greediness make things more complicated.

Anyways, i don't believe in crime, i was in south Africa a few months a go to visit my sister. i pray for her safety, but i have seen the big scars apartheid left on the locals with my own eyes. Power with greedy heart will never win!!
28 months ago: Whites own the land and farm. Blacks (who own nothing, have few jobs and little future), kill them.

Rudi, as always, proposes more deadly force be used. Ronbot Given an ounce of blame to work with, Ronbot Hunter would destroy (something) - today the blacks, tomorrow the whites, the next day some green eyed aliens.

Meanwhile, the De Beers corporation (their biggest mine is in South Africa) takes advantage of the situation, safely in place behind metal fences and armed guards.

For those who see real gain in killing large segments of mankind, there will always be a targetable portion.

But for those who can conceive of people working together for their mutual benefit, the South African situation isn't good. The blacks there have little education and not much motivation to gain an education. Because there is little possible use for educated black people in South Africa. It would require a broad program that addresses the several factors that combined together, and created these problems.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
28 months ago: This was an interesting article and it is terrible that whites are being killed, but as Casio and Terryeo point out, things are rarely as simple or as one sided as they appear. Things are complicated. Afrikaners have owned that land for over three hundred years and they consider the theft of the land much as we think of the theft of America from the Native Americans, that is, very little.

If one side controls all of the land and wealth there will be violence from the starving natives who consider their land to have been stolen by the whites. On the other hand Afrikaners will defend land that they have farmed for many generations.

The answer is not more violence, although self defense seems reasonable under the circumstances. As Terryeo points out, broad programs that address root causes are necessary.
28 months ago: "it is terrible that whites are being killed, but as Casio and Terryeo point out, things are rarely as simple or as one sided as they appear"

Did I read that correctly? You left out the disclaimer about your local views.
28 months ago: Welcome to America.
28 months ago: Excellent input dunesurfer. Here in the U.S as you can likely see we are in the middle of being lead down the socialist road by sweet talk and the promise of government hand outs. Obama and company seem hell bent on destroying the dollar in order to "level the world playing field". As this article depicts it is just unfortunate for those Afrikaners who are murdered in a South Africa which is not living up to the Socialist world leaders who want to display it as a poster child. No these stories just don't live up to the fantasy of socialism which is being sold to us on a global scale now so they are swept under the carpet. This is the law of socialism however i.e. that the individual is expendable if it is not in accord with the collective. As the world buys more into socialism I'm afraid these types of things will become more and more common. In a collective line of thought a few hundred tortured and murdered Afrikaners hold little value in comparison to the "socialist ideal" which will get only good publicity.
Great post Rudi.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
28 months ago: Jakarta99 and dunesurfer, I respect your point of view and know it to be true.

I know the horrors and pain of hate and racism and know that love and understanding is the only answer.

But politicians will always mess things up.

Given a chance even enemies can learn to agree, to like and respect each other, if not love each other.

Remember that behind every fight there is always a real cause and a real source point.

There will also be some international banker type, instigating a war for his profit and gain.

Love and understanding is the only answer.

Bring that to the table of negotiations and people will agree to end all hostilities.

Until both sides let go of their hate and racism, there will still be war in South Africa and here in the USA.

The same goes for idiots like Terryo, who considers all ex-scientologists as suppressive persons.

LOVE is the only answer.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
28 months ago: Tell that to the people who have lost loved ones- Love is the answer!!!

When naivety is conquered and reality takes hold maybe then the truth will prevail.

The "enemies" in South Africa will never reach compromise neither will there ever be peace until every white has been eradicated from the country one way or another. Even with talks having taken place the country is still going backwards.

I cannot speak fro the USA but for SA I can when I say that they "savages" that take delight in murdering innocent victims are not the kind of subhumans that listen to reason.

The use of the "Apartheid" excuse for two wrongs making a right is at it's core- weak!
Most of the individuals murdering whites were at there very most 5 years old at the time that SA went to the polls in 1994- by then things had drastically improved. Apartheid? An excuse!

The present government and media exacerbates the problems for a people trying to move on and who cannot.
SA has become an excuse for mankind where the ape stood up and then sat down and began crawling on all fours again.

Excuse my pessimism but the only answer is for the world community to stop playing the PC card and tell the ANC off otherwise there will come a time when the wrongs of the past will become the wrongs of the present.
Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
28 months ago: Quoting Stalin in one of the few things this psychotic megalomaniac ever said:

The death of a single individual is a tradegy, the death of a thousand, a statistic.

Food for thought.
27 months ago: screw your comment and your excuse Theminsa, after the white satisfy their beast soul and killed 100s and 1000s of innocent black people on their own land, now they talk about reasoning. Where were there reasoning mind when the babies were crying there....when there were a mass murder?? Where were their heart then now they are asking from individual groups who got agree and retaliate what have happened to them. Still white has all the resources and all the opportunities in SA, still blacks are not educated cos they were not given opportunities. So after they kill all the ppl and took all the advantage now they want peace? ha?? after u do something bad u can't neglect the consequence to come. whatever they were killing like nothing were someones mother, some bodies kids...

I feel sad when an innocent person dies, black or white. I am only saying, who ever ruled apartheid should take all the blame and make corrective action, freedom and equal opportunity that is. Me saying...there is still apartheid.

Bob Marley

Until the philosophy which hold one race superior
And another
Inferior
Is finally
And permanently
Discredited
And abandoned -
Everywhere is war -
Me say war.
27 months ago: Dame it!! apartheid is not something like lie a friend told you that you gona forget that easily. it has been a mass murder, humiliation and discrimination for 100s of years.

And still, the freedom in South Africa right now is a facade. the white has all the opportunity and all the advantage, all the resource.
Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
27 months ago: Get your facts straight before you try make such statements.

1. Over 134 000 people have died since 1994 in violent crime related incidents- 50 a day
How many people died in politically motivated incidents during apartheid-990...how do I know the TRC, Truth and Reconciliation Committee- so much for "mass murder"


Discrimination?-The blacks burnt their own schools down in the 70's and 80's.
The Hospitals for the blacks eg. Baragwaneth and the mines , although segregated had even better equipment than the white hospitals. Baragwaneth was at one stage the most advanced hospital in the southern hemisphere. I feel discriminated against for that.

Resources? Freedom? You go on one little holiday and you know everything.
When the Xenephobic attacks took place, who was helping the foreigners?....the whites, NOT the blacks! My mother and a few women in her street each took Zimbabweans into their houses to give them shelter and food so don't talk to me about something you know nothing about.

My mother's maid is Zimbabwean and is HIV+ blacks beat and want nothing to do with her, her my mother gave her a job and her child an education- a lot of whites do these things.
Advantage? There are 1 million more whites living below the breadline since the ANC came into power- I would not called that advantaged. Those with jobs are only just managing to keep the infrastructure afloat so they can live and pay their mortgages.
What does the ANC do when they screw up?- they hire whites to fix the problem they made.

As for resources- they are squandered by a corrupt, incompetent government whose only motivation in life is to steal from their own people.

If you want to live in the past that's fine by me- you do so personally I would like to address the problems which we face for tomorrow.

27 months ago: am not talking about what your mama did or what an individual have done. but are you telling me apartheid has done nothing on the nation? the 134 000 ppl died since 1994 was the counter effect of what had happened before that. am not talking about yesterday, am asking equal opportunity for all.

Yes, i have a sister who live there and i have been there for a few weeks 6 months ago. I have seen the difference and the gap....and i even felt the anger....
Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
27 months ago: So what do you suggest Casio? What do you suggest we should do as a people?

By your arguments do you suggest we should all lay down and die just to make up for the excuse of apartheid- that when we are all dead then it will be ok?
27 months ago: Nooooo Theminsa. You have to understand their pain. I hate what they do know....but most of them are illiterate. You have to understand their problem is your problem. Nobody should walk away killing innocent ppl, not now not then.

So what ever you should fight should not be for some ethnic group, it should work for all. I say equal opportunity for all. If i live in SA or wherever, if i know i don't have equal opportunity for work and equal pay like any body else, i will get agree which leads to crime. So those africans seams like then never had a decent school just 15 years ago....do you know what it means and what it will create on the nation? they were not allowed to live in the city....you know the details....but i don't.

So i only say...feel their pain and their problem is your problem. Fair plan and equal opportunity. You said 1 million more whites living below the breadline...how many black ppl live below the breadline? seams like you don't even care about that....and on the return how many white ppl live well...and how many black ppl live very well. You tell me..


27 months ago: Trust me, am hate those animals who kill people, who have no dreams and they are a dream killer morons. but what i am saying is partially they are the product of the system.

27 months ago: I am sorry for you all if i sound rude....and for some of my words.

but what i saw in South Africa makes me feel so sad. I have been telling everybody my experience after i come back home to the states. Such a rich and beautiful country....but what a system.

Let god be with us all.
27 months ago: No it doesn't.

and the other hand...if i kill your mama and your son, and your future...when are you gona forgive me...?? may be never.
Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
27 months ago: Remember in 1992 the majority of whites voted to have elections for ALL south africans on the basis of the constitution in which all are equal. Reconciliation it was called.
Those same individuals, as I stated before help their maids children to go to school or take them on when they have AIDS.
The past cannot be erased but I can tell you it was not so bad as is or was made out by the foreign media- I know I was there in the 80's.
Schooling? They destroyed their own schools and chased the teachers away as I said which has gone largely unnoticed by the international community.


Equal opportunity is when everyone has the chance to improve their lot in life, whether it be jobs or housing or education. When people are...as is happening now are being retrenched based on the colour of their skin- that is racism.

Do I care for the whites, yes I do, my family, my friends are white- is that any more racist than the black conciousness movement or a black person being concerned about their brethren?
What about the blacks without jobs- do you see the ANC creating jobs as was promised?

The ANC does not create jobs- they steal them under the guise of Affirmative Action which, as we see now is allowing the country to slide into a big mess.
The ANC follows the doctrine of Oliver Tambo who is stated as saying that all power must be ceded to the state in the interests of the ANC so that that the pillars of power can be utilised to control everything by the party- not very democratic.

The demon is becoming that which it most despises.
Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
27 months ago: Again Casio? What do you want to do about it????????
27 months ago: I duno.....it is a mess you created.....you deal with it.
Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
27 months ago: Moet ek meer se Henri?
27 months ago: dunesurfer - i would create a lot of educated black people...who can be responsible.....they can be lawyers, then ca be engineers...they can be anything.....and it will take time to heal. Incurage them and give them equal oprtunity.

the crime: Fight the crime.....

politics and contraption: Still fight politics and corruptions until the new generation taking over....but make sure you are building a better generation to come. don't expect much from the current politician...it is like expecting gold from a stone.

Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
27 months ago: Ok
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
27 months ago: Theminsa must be insane to say "The "enemies" in South Africa will never reach compromise neither will there ever be peace until every white has been eradicated from the country one way or another."

All of you have this hate in you--I pity you all.

You will only learn when it is almost too late.

Stop this endless chatter and look for something that you can agree with and use that has a basis for understanding.

The world has too many Hitlers and Napoleons as it is.

You guys need to cool it and only fight things worth fighting against.

LOVE IS THE ANSWER. LETTING GO OF HATE IS THE START.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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Rudi Stettner
Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
27 months ago: I am shaken by the news that has come out of South africa that can not be ignored by decent people. I have always supported racial equality. The inaction of the South African in the face of the ethnic cleansing directed against the Afrikaaners and against South African Whites can only be construed as tacit approval. I can not be silent Racism is racism. Period.I do not care what the political fashion is. I must at least speak up for the Afrikaaners, who have no other homeland. I hope they can be armed well enough to defend themselves.
Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
27 months ago: To claim that love is the only way is fine, so long as both sides are willing to find compromise RONBOT. This is not the case.
You want Hitlers and Napoleons- how about Marxists and Communists(ANC) if you go google the philosophy of Marxism you will see their ideology is totalitarian in nature. Such is it in S Africa today.

Hate? That is such a strong word...do you know me? have you met me? I don't think so.
I do not hate I just don't see things through rose tinted glasses.

We are being tortured, humiliated and murdered as a people yet we suffer this indignation for the sake of peace and tolerance, something that is afforded us less each day. And yet we have not to date allowed this to spill over into a bloodbath.

So save your pity for someone else more deserving- like the little old lady who will probably be beaten to death tonight along with her husband for being of a paler skin colour, and all in the name of the new black marxist revolution.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
27 months ago: Life is like a circle, what goes around, comes around.

You are in the middle of what was created by sociopaths both black and white.

The circle can not be broken with more hate, but only with love and understanding and lots of eduction.

Even if you are blind to this fact, someone else will break the circle, and I hope it is soon.

Can you let your hate go?

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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Theminsa
Theminsa
Netherlands, The
27 months ago: If you think I am hateful that's your opinion, I respect it BUT why is it that everyone who has a different opinion to you is deemed hateful and blind?

Think about it.
27 months ago: In a campaign speech, President Obama said something like (I paraphrase loosely) -- While I understand the black man's bitterness springs from generations of abuse, solutions do not spring from blame.

White land owners feel they own the land because the land was taken and developed generations ago. Blacks object, for there is no alternative and resources are scant, with no other future visible to them.

Most of us live far afield from South Africa, many of us have never seen segregation in action. We have not lived under the abuse of segregation nor contributed to the bitterness such abuse holds in place. This may not be true for everyone here, but is true for me. I have but read of and seen slight hints of segregation.

But a situation can not change unless the people within the situation communicate with each other. Whether this communication takes the form of solid particles of thrown lead or lighter particles of printed words, some communication is necessary.

As people, we always include or imply some feeling with our words, it is our nature to include some feeling along with the information we communicate.

I can understand Casio Sose's source of bitterness. But too, I know that blame does not create a change. It might create a target, it might create a feeling shared by others, but can not, by itself, create a peaceful solution.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
27 months ago: Theminsa from the Netherlands,

If your own words say that you are full of hate, it is not my opinion but your mouth that says so.

Let go of your hate and be at peace with your own self. Because you are living a lie.

When I look at people, I no longer look at their color, nationality, race or religion, hair, cars, homes or, their clothes to find fault with them.

I look at the way they treat me and others. I watch their actions and listen to their own words.

I disconnect from them only if they are hateful, greedy, un-ethical, or criminal, but after I know them for myself and not upon what any CULT book OR or religion tells me to do.

I am a sovereign and as such, I am free to do as I please as long as I don't hurt others for no reason whatsoever.

Find peace within your self and be free.

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Casie
Casie
South Africa, Republic of
27 months ago: THE RONBOT HUNTER, TERRYEO ET AL - Mate, I am just thinking what is the point trying to talk to you? We are trying to explain something but you seem to think WE are being ignorant? We are not denying that there were injustices.When it comes to injustice it is one of my own things I hate with a passion in life too. However, just because there was one injustice, does not mean you can now turn a blind eye to a new injustice. Is that what you youre saying because if it is then we're not the ignorant ones here and I would ask my friend we stop this debate right here because it will be fruitless.

Do you know I grew up with black people? Do you know my father, a white man, begged for food from blacks when he was a kid during the early days of apartheid? Do you know I knew no other friends as black people and the townships was my second town? Do you know I stood up for black people more than once in my life during apartheid and in the process being called many names? Please Do not preach to me or Theminsa you do not know from anything other that WHAT YOU PERCEIVE WHO YOU THINK WHO WE ARE OR WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FROM WHAT YOU WERE MADE TO BELIEVE.
Casie
Casie
South Africa, Republic of
27 months ago:
I, like you, do not see the colour of someone's skin. My girlfriend is not even white but that's irrelevant. The problem is people like you do see colour. Why do I say that? Because as soon as a white person want to bring up concerns and tell of injustice, you are quick to NOT WANT TO SEE THE PROBLEM and QUICK TO DEFEND INJUSTICE.Maybe I am not seeing something. I have been to the US, MANY countries and I can have an opinion about certain things. The rest I keep my mouth shut and take in what people are saying.

You believe what you were made to believe on TV and ACORN history of what they want you to believe of whites in SA.
I came across more than one black racist in the US that believed it was ok to be racist towards me, without even knowing me other than that I was from South Africa. Brainwashed to the extreme yet unwilling to see their racist actions.

My life experience was not of interest to anyone due to the fact it did not serve a purpose to bring down apartheid.I am just one of many stories of whites, many now murdered and for what? Just so people that want to make the world aware of injustice are now ridiculed due to the ignorance out there?

Casie
Casie
South Africa, Republic of
27 months ago: Now just some friendly advice. Rather than preaching to the converted, why don't you ask some questions to what we are saying at hand and maybe try to open your mind and take off your colour coded glases? Ask questions. All I am going to say is you have an ideal opportunity to learn something here first hand.

If there is one thing I learned in life this is it, take it for what it is worth. If you want to have an opinion that is worth something, then have experience to back it up,otherwise listen and try to learn something.

There's too many people with too many opinions pulled out of their behinds in this world that don't mean anything and just add to the FRUSTRATION you perceive as HATE.

I am not going to waste my time here if this is the type of comments people use to try and sound 'smart' or 'educated' because frankly its just pure ignorance.

Add me on facebook if you want to learn but don't expect me to take fools lightly. I talk straight and I am a no bullsh1tter.

dunesurfer@gmail.com

PEOPLE ARE MORE CONCERNED TODAY TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT, THAN BE DO THE RIGHT THING. IN THIS CASE WHITES ARE BEING UNFAIRLY TREATED BUT LET'S FACE IT. IT'S POLITICALLY INCORRECT TO SUPPORT INJUSTICE IF THAT IS THE CASE.

It makes you laugh at the double standards and hypocrisy of individuals or groups.
27 months ago: Like I said way, way earlier. Welcome to America. Don't give up. If you do they win. Pound long and hard. Spit in their eyes. Call it as you see it.
27 months ago: i was talking about this with a friend....and he said...."they treated them like animals, and they become animals." if you know what it means.

We all talk about the cause and try to see the root of the problem but NO ONE is arguing what is happening now is the right thing.
Casie
Casie
South Africa, Republic of
27 months ago: Ask 'your friend' where did he live?

'We' is a lot of people. Does you friend know 'We' from living in South Africa or from reading? If he lived in South Africa he mustve been very rich and well travelled to have living in every section of South Africa and personally knowing 4 million whites. How did 'WE' treat these people like animals? Please ask him. Then 'WE' (not 4 million, but me and you) can continue this dicussion.

PS. Like i said. If you want to have an opinion, at least back it up with experience. What experience does your friend have to back up his opinion that 'WE' treated people like animals? I am not saying incidents did not happen but I am curious as your friend obviously did not know me nor my family or the town I lived in. There's too many 'know-it-alls in this world. I don't know everything as I am a scholar of the people, yet I am a damn good teacher when it comes to personal experience. Waiting for your friends reply.
27 months ago: Hey...why are you son angry and don't see the point? If we talk about slavery in US, we are not saying the white dude next door...we are talking about the system. does this need creative intelligence to understand?? they have been beated, imprisoned, killed and a lot more...is this a lie? No by you literally tho.

The system treated them like animals and they become animals.
Casie
Casie
South Africa, Republic of
27 months ago: Ok. So the new system treats the white people like animals.
Does that give us reason to become animals too, when the wheel turns again? Or does it take a person of strong character to say, hey, we all suffered. Let's make this work?

ps. unlike what people were made to believe. White people was also victims from the system. Do you know the British invaded two republics for the most stupid reason known to man when gold was discovered? They put the whites in concentration camps and view anything non British as sub human at the time. During that time the blacks massacred, pillaged and raped the women and children left on the farms while the men had to fight. I assume you do not know this or many other examples. If we want to understand, we need to look at the whole picture and not just ONE SIDED history or information.
27 months ago: Well....Casie, i am feeling your pain. I am really sorry for what is happening and i do wish to work this out. Cos you have a wonderful country and you have some wonderful people too.

to tell the truth, i for myself, were scared of the black when i was there and i fear for my sister of the black ppl. I felt more safe in Cape Town, there are a lot in deed i appreciate about you, the whites.

as an individual i don't know the answer that could work, i wish you all the best and would advice you to start think that their problem is your problem as well (since they are south african's too) and focus on education and creating a better generation.

I am sorry for what is happening now.
Casie
Casie
South Africa, Republic of
27 months ago: Remember this? How the west showed Zimbabwe as a gleeming example as to why apartheid should go?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQR0IoWst0c

A quick overview of what you did not know about apartheid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukY8XZBRYGo

Casie
Casie
South Africa, Republic of
27 months ago:
You can only do so much with a hand of friendship. If you stick out a hand of friendship and someone slaps it away what are you left with? This is what many blacks including their (They proved themselves not to be my government) government. They are just very subtle in the way they apply racism without law.

I grouped up, with a 'white lady' to help black Portuguese ex-soldiers, elderly and children left to fend for themselves in a hospitable corner of South Africa. Why do we help these people? Because these people helped us and we shared the same values. They were soldiers with us, that died with us fighting against communism, marxism and the anc. Today, they are being discriminated against, they are not treated like equal citizens like other blacks. They bullied and victimised by the SA (marxist) government. You will not hear about these people, as the SA government will keep them in the basement like a retarded brother from the eyes of the international community. There are many things the international community do not know, and if they knew, they will quickly see the smoke and mirrors the anc is tricking you all with.When it comes to human rights do not let them fool you. They talk the talk but the true state of affairs are being kept secret via the government media controlled corporation. SABC
Casie
Casie
South Africa, Republic of
27 months ago:
Was it Martin Luther King that said, for injustice to prevail good men need to stay silent.

Cape Town is the entry and exit port of SA. Dont be fooled by the perception that Cape Town is South Africa but it cannot be further from the truth.

It is the same as during apartheid. Johannesburg was the epicentre of violence and what the world saw which gave them the perception that what happens in Johannesburg, must 'apply' to the whole of South Africa. Keep an open mind that's all I can say. Many thins are reported in Afrikaans unfortunately which is my first language and many of what is happening gets lost to English speakers.

True leaders do not 'show sympathy' to their supporters by creating hate. It is a cocktail for disaster.

http://globalpolitician.com/25943-south-africa


Casie
Casie
South Africa, Republic of
27 months ago:
http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/36ebc00e3f1d4cee9184f4b87add3720/04-02-2007-11-14/Were_going_to_kill_whites


http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20050219103803315C822723

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20030718045558414C208369

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/148015aa387e414ca76081f0dc0207b2/02-11-2004-04-16/Four_appear_for_farm_attack

'White Rodney King'

http://jv.news24.com//Beeld/Suid-Afrika/0,,3-975_1883735,00.html

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/ad25aacffe6742e9866c8268cd439ddb/09-02-2006-10-38/Farmers_Achilles_tendons_slashed_

http://www.vryheidsfront.co.za/a/toespraak.asp?id=131

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1967483,00.html

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1963122,00.html

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/b03f28c786fc45b096577b7b07585305/12-04-2006-10-31/Robbers_skin_farmers_feet_

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?art_id=vn20071017061630495C448005

http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=3370647


Racist murder - Whites are seen as white devils or satan

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/73db67da99704d5caf10777a93577163/06-11-2005-11-23/Man_tortured_like_Jesus


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