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Don't bury the N word.

Posted 19 months ago|33 comments|789 views
NAACP and the N word.
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CrbBob
Costa Rica
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Just yesterday a good white friend of mine, called me on the phone about hanging out on Saturday night. At the end of the call we reconfirmed where we would meet and the time, I then said " You got the 1st round" He replied with : "Ni***a please!" in his best black imitation, as always we both laughed and hung up the phone. After a few moments I thought about how far we had come with racism in the world. My best friend had just dropped the N word on me and I laughed as always. If this had been 20 years or more ago in the past, I would have been all over him like BBQ sauce on a rib.

I then did a search on the word Ni***r. (Notice the "R" at the end and not the "A") With out going into much detail here is what I found:
* The variants neger and negar, derive from the Spanish and Portuguese word negro (black), and from the pejorative French nègre (ni**er). Etymologically, negro, noir, nègre, and ni**er ultimately derive from nigrum, the stem of the Latin niger (black) (pronounced ['niger] which, in every other grammatical case, grammatical gender, and grammatical number besides nominative masculine singular, is nigr-, the r is trilled). I would suggest you read more on this as the article at wikipedia is very long.

When you have read more of this you can see it never started off as a racial slur, but was made into one after slaves were brought over from Africa.

My whole point of this article is why should a word hurt someone? It's funny my friend uses the word all of the time around me in jokes and I'm not offended. But if we were in a fight and and he tossed it out at me, I think we would have problems. Of course all black people can agree to this next statement. When the N word is said with a "R" at the end it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Even if it comes from a black person. One would think it goes back to the slavery days when the master would use it addressing his slaves.

I can recall playing football in high school, Boys Town Neb. We traveled to a school about 75 miles from us, I can't remember the name of the school now as it's been so long. During our warm ups, there was a 20 foot grass hill just past the north end zone. There must have been around 50 kids form the other school sitting up there. As we were running our warm up drills, we could here chants of N***r coming from some of the kids. Our team had a nick name that we shared only with the players and coaches " Coach Spencers, Spic's, Spade's and Spud's" as we were a very racially mixed team. So just about everyone stopped and looked up at the hill. The coach yelled at us and said ignore it! If your mad show it on the field. We did go on to beat that team that day. But it was just shocking and sicking to hear that come from fans in the crowd.

Now a days, it seems that the N word is dying out for racism and people are starting to let it just become a dead word and is used mostly in comedy. Dave Chappelle has two great skits in which plays on the N word. See the videos on the left. My favorite is the "Black Blind Racist" I think it shows how dumb racism can be.
What I'm about to say here will start some controversy for sure, but what is life if there is no controversy? I think the N word should be used as freely as anyone wishes with responsibility, then this word would never be lost in our black culture. As unfortunate as it is, this word is ours to keep, embrace, hate or to love. This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it!

A parting shot from one of favorite movies:
Full Metal Jacket (1987) Gunnery Sergeant Hartman (R. Lee Ermey), "There is no racial bigotry here. We do not look down on niggers, kikes, wop or greasers, because here you are all equally worthless."


*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger
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19 months ago: Cracka Please!
CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: My point. Funny how someome can say that and no one gets mad. Even though it is a racial slur. just plain funny....
19 months ago: I've tried to make sense of it myself. All I can come up with is that different people use it with different intentions. Since I can't read minds and I can't control what others say then I've chosen to show my opinion on the subject by not saying that word at all, not to my friends or to my enemies. I simply don't use it anymore, and when people ask me why (and they do!) I simply respond that I've outgrown it!
CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: I understand where you are coming from with this. I feel the same way, I've out grown the race part of it. To me anyone can be the N word.
19 months ago: There are two types that tend to use the word the racist and the immature. Check the box.
CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: Once again you are correct!
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19 months ago: I think I know what you mean CRBBOB by "anyone can be a…."
My only problem with that statement is as I've stated before that people can come from many different perspectives and points of view. Too many for me to figure out how hateful that statement should be interpreted.

When I was five I stood by my dad holding his hand on the way back from a baseball game as a group of young drunk punks surrounded us and kept repeating that word to my father until it brought him to tears. Nothing came of it, they laughed off my fathers pain as they all walked away and my father made no mention of it ever again but for me the power of that word was deeply embedded in my psyche after that.

I think Huey has narrowed down the thought process behind the usage of the word really well. The racist and immature use it. A thoughtful person simply will not be careless about another persons feelings.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
19 months ago: ...There are two types that tend to use the word the racist and the immature. Check the box...

Ditto and the article is a contradiction just by it's title - "Don't bury the N word"; you buried it by using "the N word" phrase to avoid causing offense that would have ensued if you had spelled it out in the title. What's next? Don't bury the c*nt, f*ck, sh*t, ki*e, etc. profanities and slurs?

CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: The only reason I did that was so the mod's whould not delete the post. If you look at the bottom of the post, the word is fully intact. Next time I know better. :)

"...There are two types that tend to use the word the racist and the immature. Check the box"

I don't fit either one of those. I'm a black male and I find that the word nigger, has become part of our culture and we must learn to live with it. How many times have you been around black people and you hear " That nigga is crazy" or " Them's my niggas" If you use the word in a racial way you need to be beat down but if you use the same as " That man is crazy" or " They are my friends." I find it acceptable in every day converstions.
Here is a good example of what I mean by the word Nigger, being mis understood:
Nigger Brown

CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: Thi link did not show for the story:
http://colorlines.com/archives/2007/04/n...
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
19 months ago: Given enough time (on the order of decades or centuries), an offensive slur can transition to a positive affirmation but until that time happens, it's an offensive slur. If you and your mates want to call each the N word as a term of endearment, have at it but in a public forum, it's not going to work and I'll refer you to the following article written from a black female perspective:

http://temple-news.com/2010/04/19/is-the...

That article reflects some thought and maturity in my opinion.
CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: I'm going to guess that you're not black, is that correct? So would you like it if I said "Hey Wood, lets hang out tonight" Or does that seem racial to you?

I think the issue is in my mind it all depends on where you grew up and how one learns to deal with words being said.

I live in Costa Rica and on almost every corner is a Chinese store. The local people will ask the person behind the counter for somthing and they always say. " Hey Chino I need..." It's not a racial slur but a part of life here.
Here is one that will make you laugh, some Ticos here will say " Hola Negra" to there spouse, which for some reason means "Hello my Love"
So like I say, it's just a matter of how you take a word and I feel like my word should never be buried ever.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
19 months ago: On the Internet you can be any color you want and that's the crux of the problem. If somebody comes on the forum and says, "Hey, I'm Asian and it now okay to call Chinese people "Chi*ks; we love it now", that's not going to fly.

If folks in Costa Rica affectionately refer to each other using racial slurs, how wonderful for them although I find it hard to believe that an Asian worker at a store appreciates a Hispanic customer coming in and saying, "Hey Chi*o, I need..". I certainly couldn't imagine going to a Mexican Restrauant and saying "Hey sp*c, I need a menu." Do the Nicaracuans in Costa Rica like being called nicas? see:

http://dailyuw.com/2007/2/22/racism-is-a...

Now I've not been to Costa Rica but I have been to many countries in Europe and Asia. Nowhere did I find it appropriate to address somebody by their ethnicity, especially with an 'affectionate' slur. I got an idea though - why don't you post a YouTube video where you goto a store or restaurant and address the worker with a slur.
19 months ago: Mark? Is that not the point? You...

Whitie..
Cracker...
White Bread...
Redneck...
Cowboy...
etc.

These people are hypocrites. To claim a "dis" when in fact they won't own their own "dis".
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
19 months ago: True enough, but was there 200 years of slavery and Jim Crow against the Whites? If there wasn't a long history of institutionalized racism and segregation against blacks, the N word slur might have been of a yuk yuk barb as opposed to what it represents now. When Mel Gibson recently told his GF, "You look like a &#$^& pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of ni**#ers, it will be your fault." was he using the slur affectionately?

We're a long way from neutralizing the real hatred associated with the word and it doesn't have anywhere near the impact of calling somebody a cracker or redneck but neither should be encouraged.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
19 months ago: ...The local people will ask the person behind the counter for somthing and they always say. " Hey Chino I need..."

Let me get this straight. You go into stores in Costa Rica and say that yourself? Does the Asian person respond, "Okay ni**er, here you go"? I'm trying to picture that happy verbal exchange and it's not working for me. - must be a cultural hangup on my part, eh?
19 months ago: Really Mark? 200 years, 200 months, 200 days, 200 hours or 200 seconds.

Ain't it the same coming from the "dis'ed" of the past?

What? Payback time?
CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: Are you saying the people in Costa Rica are hypocrites?
How about this is all they know. It ok in their culture, to use the word " Chino, Negro" Just the way it is. Funny thing if you call one of them a Spic, when they said Negro to you, they would have no idea what your saying as they don't consider themselves hispanic.
19 months ago: Bob, if that question was pointed to me. The answer is NO. I infact called the "Minority" groups in America hypocrites. Let's get that straight.
CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: Like you I found it hard to believe, but it's done here. The 1st I heard that 8 years ago I thought it would be a fight, but my girlfriend told me thats how it's done here. Also if there is female behind the counter, they say "China". I'm going to take some video and post it here so you can see I'm nut pulling your leg. Behind closed doors Costa Rica is a very racist Country. At the Costa Rica country club they will not let Black, Jews, Nicaracuans or many other south american countrys become members. I worked for a boss who told them F-off, when they said I could not come in because I was black. In the back of mind I'm thinking in States your Tico **** would be classified as a Mexican and get the same treatment I get there.
No Nicaracuans do not like the term Nica,but it used here like water running in a river. It's funny my girlfriend is Black and from Costa Rica and all I hear is "those Nicas this and those Nicas that" I don't have the heart to tell her well you black. She will learn, that people are people all over the world.
CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: Was not pointed at you, but I tend to agree with you.
I wonder how people would respond to "White History Month?"
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
19 months ago: ....What? Payback time?....

I don't condone payback - that's just the right-wing paranoia coming to bear.
19 months ago: Yeah, right, keep thinking that way and add even more 'shrooms to your fruit punch.
19 months ago: I blame Richard Pryor.

Funniest man on the planet in his day, but he left us with a word that by the time of his moving on, was entrenched amongst his people. He really popularized the common use of the word and helped it gain acceptability like no other single individual.

Take note though, it was a word which he eventually renounced using.
19 months ago: along with Cocaine....
CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: Yes very true after going to Africa he did this. But he also did not stop using the word as there were times when he was telling jokes he would slip it in. But you could see the effort he was making. And yes he was the funniest man in his time.
19 months ago: along with Cocaine....
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
19 months ago: ...I blame Richard Pryor...

That's like blaming the Three Stooges or boxers for causing violence. What's appropriate conduct in an entertainment or sports venue is of course not always appropriate outside of that venue; if one can't perceive that difference, they probably need to be institutionalized.
19 months ago: MB - Good point. I love Rich but his colorful use of the word did help to continue to give it life. It ultimately is not his fault, the word was around long before him.
19 months ago: CRBOB

I do finally understand why you are passionate about being free to use the word on your terms. It is, you feel part of your evolving culture but let me interject this: Isn't it my culture too? Should I be subjected to listening to it regardless of it's users intentions? A side note here is this: Could this be another factor why some of our people who use that word feel that those of us who don't are some how "sellouts"? Does this mean that we are not one people or culture? Perhaps your African American is not mine. I don't use it. You do. I suppose that is where it ends…

There is one other thing however: I have a reasonable and logical reason to expect no one to ever use thst word on me and that is that I don't use it at all. But I guess that's just me.
19 months ago: not ever? Liar.
CrbBob
CrbBob
Costa Rica
19 months ago: "A side note here is this: Could this be another factor why some of our people who use that word feel that those of us who don't are some how "sellouts"?"

Does not mean your a sell out. Lets look at Ice Cube with his "True to the Game" song. The main thing he is saying in the song is, as soon as brother gets some money he starts acting white and leaves the hood. Now lets look at Ice Cube today. " Are we there yet?" he has gone disney but that done not make him a sell our or you. We all have our own rights and choose to speak our own free will. So don't ever call youself a sell out. To me that is worse then the N word.
19 months ago: I don't think that I'm a sell out for making choices that improve my condition in life, be it for the changes I make in the articulation of my dialect or the clothing that I wear that resembles a simpler and more broadly accepted form of dress. The N word is such a word that puts a very specifically identifiable label on its user. As Huey Newton pointed out, only two labels are readily accepted by the general populace as befitting the user of the N word, either racist or ignorant.

I choose to bear neither label so I don't use it but as you pointed out, you use the N word and accept neither label either but would rather fall under a third category. What would that category be then? Culturally aware ? If that is the case then where does that leave those of us who see fit not to use that word at all in our lexicon? That is why some black folks might have a problem with other black folks because of the importance that we place or don't place in the usage of a word that traditionally has defined a people who were enslaved and demoralized in order that we have no definition at all!

And now that we are able to define ourselves everybody want's to have a say in what we call ourselves! I don't care so much to control that process as much as I care that others don't dump on my progress if they don't want me to dump on theirs!

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