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Disqualified: Obama Not Natural Born Citizen

Posted 3 months ago|127 comments|1,411 views
America, they are not laughing with you!
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"...Obama finally releases his so-called "long form" birth certificate (aka, a birth certificate), confirming once and for all that he is not a natural born citizen of the United States in compliance with Article II of the U.S. Constitution..."
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/28/o...

"By J.B. Williams
• Obama lied – having claimed for two years to have already released his birth certificate, which birthers correctly identified as only a COLB (Certification of Live Birth). Now he has released his birth certificate, allegedly.
• Barack Hussein Obama I is his natural birth father – and since he was never a citizen of the United States, Barack Obama II cannot possibly be a natural born citizen of the United States...
"No person except a natural born citizen, (or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution,) shall be eligible to the office of President;"
http://www.newswithviews.com/JBWilliams/...

All "conspiracy theories" aside, here we have Obama admitting that he is not a natural born citizen, and America cares less about holding it's constitution. What is it with the USA? Is it the pride factor... why act on the truth now, because then the States would have to admit that the President that they had for the past 4 years was an illegal one? And that would mean all the Executive Orders were illegal, and all the trillions of dollars given to his buddies was a scam as well?? Seriously!

That's the worst part of American politics, there always seems to be a big enough carpet to sweep things under. When the world watches how the working people that uphold the nation, with their taxes and patriotism, by these political actions they are mocked and made a laughing stock. Like the fraud of 9/11 to endless scandals almost daily, is it any wonder that the American people have lost trust with the system. Or is it that they have merely given up... and conceded to popular opinion?

It is sad that those who have uncovered the truth, and it is now established and proven, are still mocked as "truthers" ...these mockers take great pride, and wonder why everyone doesn't run with them in their excessive riot, and fly their flag as "liars". Could it be that these things are done to prove that the American people have lost control of their very nation... is it to prove that they couldn't do anything about it if they tried...
or is it merely an ungodly coincidence?

Obama Court Case reported by FOX 5 NEWS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDhyU7I7c...

Obama is Trying to Weasel Out of Georgia Ballot Eligibility Hearing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipe0k1_MZ...

Obama ignored GA Eligibility Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgCBlw6fU...
UPDATE - 3 months ago
"...the long-form birth certificate of President Barack Hussein Obama and said it proves that the president was born in the state of Hawaii"
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/l/l...

But it also proves that Barack Hussein Obama constitutionally cannot hold the office of President, as his father wasn't born in America, and that makes Obama NOT a "natural born citizen" as prescribed for that office.
UPDATE - 3 months ago
"Georgia citizens today delivered sworn testimony to a court that Barack Obama is slam-dunk disqualified from having his name on the 2012 presidential ballot in the state, because his father never was a U.S. citizen, which prevents him from qualifying as a "natural-born citizen" as the U.S. Constitution requires for a president."
http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/georgia-court...
UPDATE - 3 months ago
"This was republished from a Factcheck.org, article which further stated:
In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

The constitutional question presented is whether a person born with citizenship in and allegiance to a foreign nation can be considered a "natural born citizen" of the United States as required by Article II, Section 1."
http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/134881/
UPDATE - 3 months ago
"ANOTHER LOOK AT OBAMA'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
Exclusive: Jack Cashill offers historical data about O's use of Connecticut ID... What she and fellow investigator Neil Sankey unearthed was a nugget that could have ended the career of a George Bush or a Sarah Palin: Barack Obama had been using a Social Security number issued in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a state in which he never lived or even visited at that time in his life."
http://www.wnd.com/2011/03/275861/
UPDATE - 3 months ago
IF anyone is still confused with the terminology should watch this following humoristic 'toon' that describes constitutional law on this subject...

Barack Obama Admits He Is Not A Natural Born Citizen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz0_LNLA9...
UPDATE - 3 months ago
"Susan Daniels Testifies in Atlanta: Obama's Social Security Number is Fraudulent

OBAMA'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER PART OF A MANUFACTURED FAKE IDENTITY

Susan Daniels is a licensed private investigator who has researched the use of the social security number currently being used by Barack Hussein Obama which she has determined was issued in the state of Connecticut, where Obama has neither lived nor worked. Daniels has stated that the number had originally been assigned to a man from Connecticut born in 1890."
http://www.zimbio.com/Barack+Obama/artic...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-urw7ddw6Dv8/Ty...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UIbRSmDtPIE/Ty...
UPDATE - 3 months ago
When we get done with all this questionable anomalies, we will get to some "meat and potatoes" fraud, like Obama's Selective Service card...

"More recently, it was discovered that Obama's Selective Service card may have been doctored. Federal law requires all American males to register for the Selective Service (the draft) in case a major war broke out. Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama's Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older. Indeed, the forgers forgot to alter the "Document Location Number" which shows that it is clearly a 2008 form. This is fraud and it's a felony and Schlussel's allegations are backed up by Stephen Coffman, a former high-ranking Federal agent. Moreover, the document shows a September 4th, 1980 date and the location of the transaction as Hawaii, but at that time Obama was thousands of miles away attending Occidental College in Los Angeles."
http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusi...
UPDATE - 1 month ago
"Don't Waste Your Life" by John Piper
http://dwynrhh6bluza.cloudfront.net/reso...
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COMMENTS
3 months ago: There are still a few of us.
3 months ago: And if it wasn't for the few who won't take "it" ...we wouldn't know about any of this in the first place. Keep the faith!
3 months ago: I have plenty of faith. I have faith that the establishment GOP is going to get a serious wake-up call. It has already begun and they can't understand why the rank and file won't fall in line. The Maine Caucus is a prime example. The establishment GOP has determined a winner without counting all of the votes. Some of the caucuses have been delayed because of inclement weather for safety reasons. Yet, the GOP will refuse their inclusion in the State totals. Ask yourself why? The process has been tainted and nullified by GOP backroom deals.
This is why we are working for a show down at the RNC. They had best get ready.
We are not their Grandfather's Oldmobile.

The DNC is nothing more than a rubber stamp for continued social-economic slavery.
sunny2
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3 months ago: Truth, I just don't put any credibility in Fox New's Reports.
He had to be completely investigated before taking that office.
I would like to hear his side of it.
3 months ago: Sunny,

This was a Georgia State court order that Obama was in contempt of... who else reported it CNN? No, all the big media News is bought and paid for... not like FOX isn't... but why didn't they report on this?? I don't blame FOX for reporting, I blame American Media for putting up with this Obama fraud!
3 months ago: Actually TB, the media was given a taste of the control Obama has a few weeks ago when DHS conducted a nationwide test that showed them they could shut down all communications with the touch of a button....

Call that a lie.
sunny2
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3 months ago: We have to wait and see. The truth will come out.
How do we kick out the whole lot of them that Cypress says we should do. Vote for who? Sarah P. looks like a complete nut case. They are all getting on the band wagon again. Not one of them is worth a grain of salt.
3 months ago: Sunny,

Not to belabor the point, but he is exactly the one they wanted, given his background, he would make the perfect "black yes man" ...he is more white by his actions than most want to admit, this the "potato" stigma...

Is Obama a Potato?
http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Is-Obama-a-...

...Hussein Obama will do exactly what he is told, when he is told to do it. It is his actions not his color that is exposing him for the fraud that he is. I personally was cheering when he was elected, because he was the first black President, and that he represented all those of color (non whites)... to my shame he let everyone down... now it is obvious why... he was a phony before he started! A sell-out and fraud! Too bad, he could have been one of the greats! But we all know what would have happened to him if he would have said NO to his billionaire backers...
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3 months ago: I get what a yes man is. I never saw his strength. I've said it many times he has to win our trust again after all the compromises and everything that has been done to hurt the economy and the complete neglectfullness to the people which is so blatenly obvious.
Then if that is the case, he let down his own people. But who are these people people that put him out there to fool everyone? Who is behind it all? Are we talking again about One World Order. Hitler instrumented that didn't he? Stands to reason that all these years maybe it was meant to play out this way in the future when the countries were vulnerable to it. Everything went too far and people become too soft and too stupid to care as long as they had their toys and distractions.
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3 months ago: I would hate to think that there is deception on his part without having an open mind. I don't think any of the other candidates have proven themselves good ole boys who could run this country. Take a look at their backgrounds, and it speaks for itself. I don't even want to vote looking at what's out there. Right now he is our President, and he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I hope there is an explanation.
3 months ago: One must have an open mind to consider the possibility of deception.

What was the date of the release of his "long form" birth certificate? Was it before or after the election? When was it called into question? Was it before or after the election?

Deception? More like criminal.
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3 months ago: The whole ball of wax have been criminals. A bunch of thugs trying to push Americans around.
How have they been able to get away with it this long?
Not trusting is saying the same thing about being suspicious of deception.
3 months ago: Hey TB,
So his very white, American mother, the one who gave birth to him in the USA, her very own country of origin doesn't count for a hill of beans? His father is a N!*@r so he is a N!*@r too, is that the way closeted racist, birther, teaparty, neoconfederates see it? Who am I asking? You're not even a USA citizen. You are Canadian for goodness sake, you pledge allegiance to the Queen of England. What would you know?
3 months ago: How do you explain that his birth certificate registration number is out of sequence by date?
3 months ago: and F.Y.I. , Obama was a citizen of both the U.K. and Kenya. Look it up on your own FactCheck.org.
3 months ago: Nice job playing the race card Dwayne.
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3 months ago: Where is the reference on the net? I can't find anything referring to this update.
3 months ago: Google - Obama Dual Citizenship - for more but here is one of the FactCheck links...

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obamas-...
3 months ago: DJ,

Don't shoot the messenger... be it Canadian or American.
3 months ago: ...or Kenyan....
3 months ago: !:]
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3 months ago: If the whole entire thing is a conspiracy, what are we going to do about it.
If they pull the plug on communication, where does that leave us? Sounds like a lot of scare tactics that have been around for a long time.
One thing, we still are fighters. If they have someone or something ready to control after the lights go out sort of speak, how can they control everything.
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3 months ago: If there is a any kind of a cover up or motive for this, nobody is safe in this world. The effects of this will be felt everywhere. It won't only be the US. England has always been our allied so what's your point Dwayne.
3 months ago: Did his very white mother (how racist Dwayne) birth him in the U.S.? Sure about that? What hospital? What address is listed as his mothers address? Who really lived at that address?
3 months ago: Put this in your racist pipe and smoke it Dwayne.

In an interview with Ebony magazine, Jackson explained, "I voted for Barack because he was black. 'Cuz that's why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them ... That's American politics, pure and simple. [Obama's] message didn't mean [bleep] to me."

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/barack-oba...
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3 months ago: You can tell that interview was completely ignorant.
Many of the white population voted for Barack Obama and were behind him getting into office.
He doesn't look like me, but I never really pay attention or care two cents.
I look at the man and what he can do for us.
That was such a stupid remark on their part. Leave it to Ebony that's because they are racist in my book. "Obama's message didn't mean --- to me." Then they didn't do their job and that's why we are in such hot water.
3 months ago: But the question is.... does he look like Dwayne? You see folks like Dwayne will always resort to the race game because it is part of their culture. It's all they know and will ever know because they need it to survive.
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3 months ago: We have the freedom of speech, but we also are accountable for what we say.
I don't care what color his skin is it doesn't matter to me at all.
I didn't vote for him because I didn't think he had the experience. I didn't like the guy who was running oposite him either. Nobody good wants the job anymore. People should vote for the person they think can run the country and keep them safe and thriving. Not some quack with a history of bad behavior or radical views.
He still is our President, and you have to give him a chance. I don't think he could of past an investigation. Let me say if there is something not right here about the birth certificate, the government already knew about it. That's what I think anyway.
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3 months ago: Funny, when I brought it up about his mindset months ago being Kenyan and not understanding the US ways, everyone jumped on me. I didn't think at first that he understood our freedoms. I thought he understood poverty more than equality. Poverty not in a good way but in a way that it is what it is and if you don't have it in America you aren't any good and not recognized.
I still think he deserves a chance to speak up.
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3 months ago: So, I guess that means if they kick him out of office VP Joe Biden will take over. We have no choices.
3 months ago: You have a choice. It comes in about 9 months. You will be given an opportunity to kick the whole lot in the rear. Both sides. That will be the only thing that will wake them up.
3 months ago: Hey TB!
I'm going to try this again. My mother who birthed me is an American citizen. What am I? I am an American citizen!
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3 months ago: Dwayne you are an American citizen. Me, too. It also stands to reason that we need each other. We are all global citizens of a world that anything and everything can go wrong if we don't stand together. We can't start making enemies because we have to depend on each other.
3 months ago: Sorry DJ,

FYI this Rant is not about you, but if you want to stay on subject...

WHY OBAMA IS INELIGIBLE – REGARDLESS OF HIS BIRTHPLACE
http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/134881/
3 months ago: Was he a subject of the U.K. or Kenya?

http://www.wnd.com/2010/08/195441/
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3 months ago: Where's Six in this one?
3 months ago: Where is the dyed in the wool Democrat.... Altruist???
3 months ago: Probably looking for links that he will never find. BTW, isn't it strange that all of the people that should be questioned about this topic are dead? Go figure that one out.
3 months ago: Kind of "par for the course" TCG
3 months ago: Thanks for the link above TCG, here is a follow-up to that...

"This was republished from a Factcheck.org, article which further stated:
In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.
The constitutional question presented is whether a person born with citizenship in and allegiance to a foreign nation can be considered a "natural born citizen" of the United States as required by Article II, Section 1."
http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/134881/
3 months ago: You ready to prove the case of "Knowingly" committing Fraud?
jenna0215
jenna0215
Saint Charles, MO
3 months ago: Im confused. Im not a fan of Obama...but if he was born in Hawaii..then he is an American Citizen. Doesnt matter if he gets dual citizenship because of his father. He was born in America. That makes him a natural born citizen. The constitution doesnt say anything about having a parent from another country. Look..the truth remains that NONE of us are really natural born citizens..except for American Indians. We are all descendants of other countries in some form. To me, this argument of Obama is like beating a dead horse.
3 months ago: jenna0215,

The whole argument was that Obama had dual citizenship, and requires that the representatives, senators and presidents did not. By Obama I having citizenship of the UKC, Obama II would have had dual citizenship! This is in contravention with the constitutional provision. For these offices they are required a different form of 'natural born citizenship' so they wouldn't have "dual allegiance"...

"...at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC. The constitutional question presented is whether a person born with citizenship in and allegiance to a foreign nation can be considered a "natural born citizen" of the United States as required by Article II, Section 1...

This helps explain why the definition of "natural born citizen" as one born in the nation to parents who are citizens makes perfect sense in that such a person will not be infected by dual-allegiance problems. If the parents are citizens, neither will confer allegiance to a foreign nation. Additionally, if one is born on soil foreign to the parents, that nation is likely to recognize the person as a citizen. Owing allegiance to more than one nation is an unnatural circumstance of citizenship.
While the Constitution requires representatives, senators and presidents to be citizens, Article II, Section 1, additionally requires that the president's citizenship be "natural born." A natural born citizen is not a higher level of citizen. "Natural born" simply describes a circumstance of citizenship."
http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/134881/
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3 months ago: Sorry I had to correct something.
Jenna0215 They question Native Americans also saying they reached this country by way of Europe. I think it is normal to question, especially because of the election coming up and of the actions that we have had to endure that have thrown this country into chaos never seen before in their generation. All the time our leader compromises and seemingly leans to making a few bullies happy who are steadily taking away our country handing it over to international markets to get rich off of Americans work labor of sweat and blood that bult this country. Loss of jobs, homes, no adequate food has been a big burden on this country. I don't remember another president looking on all this happening to people ignoring their protests and hardships. They were begging him this past year needing help. Our kids aren't properly educated. The rich reap all the rewards off of the little guy. You are right, also. I feel that they should wait until an investigation is properly done. No one is above this when their are questions left unansered and Americans want to know. He does not answer and he does dodge the question, which I think is unfair. Again we come last? When people feel let down or the government does not have their best interest at heart, which we experienced this in the past year, we look toward the future with questions of uncertainity. Nobody is above it in this country, as yet any way.

Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: This is getting beyond idiotic:

8 U.S.C. § 1401. If he was born in the United States (Hawaii was a state in 1961) then he is a citizen. His mother was a US Citizen, He was Born in Hawaii...how hard can this be...there is only one outcome here...Natural Born Citizen. Under no circumstance does the law identify a person as anything other than natural born so long as one parent is a citizen of the United States...Some people are just too dumb to discuss real issues so we go back to this same moronic argument over and over and over again...get a grip on reality.

Anybody who believes that Barack Obama is not a U.S. Citizen is f*@!&%$ stupid.
3 months ago: Perfect,

The whole argument was that Obama had dual citizenship, and requires that the representatives, senators and presidents did not. By Obama I having citizenship of the UKC, Obama II would have had dual citizenship! This is in contravention with the constitutional provision. For these offices they are required a different form of 'natural born citizenship' so they wouldn't have "dual allegiance"...

"...at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC. The constitutional question presented is whether a person born with citizenship in and allegiance to a foreign nation can be considered a "natural born citizen" of the United States as required by Article II, Section 1...

This helps explain why the definition of "natural born citizen" as one born in the nation to parents who are citizens makes perfect sense in that such a person will not be infected by dual-allegiance problems. If the parents are citizens, neither will confer allegiance to a foreign nation. Additionally, if one is born on soil foreign to the parents, that nation is likely to recognize the person as a citizen. Owing allegiance to more than one nation is an unnatural circumstance of citizenship.
While the Constitution requires representatives, senators and presidents to be citizens, Article II, Section 1, additionally requires that the president's citizenship be "natural born." A natural born citizen is not a higher level of citizen. "Natural born" simply describes a circumstance of citizenship."
http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/134881/
3 months ago: Exactly what I've been saying P.H. By the way it is coming up again because it is election time and if people were dumb enough to buy the horse $#!t they were peddling the first time around they sure as hell will buy it again!
3 months ago: So DJ,

You mean they are going to believe Obama again?:]
sunny2
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3 months ago: So, Dwayne, what do you have to say about the law making him ineligible.
You think it is wrong or not true?
Whatever it turns out to be, you have to support the person that will do the best good for you and their country.
How can the two of you chime in together and call people STUPID with no argument. It is a matter of law. It seems that you quickly get on the defense without looking at all the details and the probability. I don't care about the birth certificate as long as he is a good leader. Of course, that doesn't make it fair because others didn't have a chance to be leaders because of their citizenship circumstances.
3 months ago: ''If'' Perfect?
3 months ago: Yeah TCG,

He said IF... even intelligent stock like Perfect have their doubts too..
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3 months ago: Did you read my link Perfect.
The law began at age 16 plus 5 which meant you had to be in this country 5 years before the birth. His mother was 18 plus 2 so he didn't become an automatic citizen.
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3 months ago: No politician is above reproach and people have a right to question, especially since there is so much going on and people are feeling the brunt of their actions.
If we didn't question, then we would be stupid idiots. I think that people have to put it at rest in order for him to run another term without questions left unanswered.
So far I haven't seen anything that looks like he isn't a citizen. I don't think any of us are experts on this.
3 months ago: We haven't even got to Obama's phony social security number yet !:]
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3 months ago: Holy smokes. I see what you are saying.
We will see what comes from this sooner or later.
3 months ago: "ANOTHER LOOK AT OBAMA'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
Exclusive: Jack Cashill offers historical data about O's use of Connecticut ID... What she and fellow investigator Neil Sankey unearthed was a nugget that could have ended the career of a George Bush or a Sarah Palin: Barack Obama had been using a Social Security number issued in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a state in which he never lived or even visited at that time in his life."
http://www.wnd.com/2011/03/275861/

3 months ago: IF anyone is still confused with the terminology should watch this following humoristic 'toon' that describes constitutional law on this subject...

Barack Obama Admits He Is Not A Natural Born Citizen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz0_LNLA9...
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3 months ago: It states on http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/cit...
This one explains it really clear as Truth did. "Native Son"

One parent had to reside in the US at least 10 years, 5 of which had to be after the age of 16. Obama's mother was only 18. She had to be 16 + 5 to have him have an automatic citizenshp. She wasn't old enough to qualify him.
Out Of The Box
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 Moderator
3 months ago: Sunny, The sixteen + 5 rule doesn't apply here. That rule only applies to someone who was born outside the United States. If in fact he was born in Hawaii, the mother's age is irrelevant.

The notion that his released long form BC was a photoshopped hack job, (which I personally verified) , and now allegations that he has been using a counterfeit SS number weighs more in favor of fraud.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: None of these rules apply. Barack Obama was born in HAWAII...Hawaii is a STATE. His parents could have both been Kenyan or Malaysian or Indonesian and literally washed up on shore that day...his mother could have given birth on the beach and he would still be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN...holy s*&# you people are stupid. Whether you like it or not, I have a advanced degrees in political science and a focused specialty on CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. His parents citizenship is IRRELEVANT..."ALL PERSONS BORN OR NATURALIZED IN THE UNITED STATES, AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, ARE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES"...How hard is this to understand? I know for a fact that you all can read (comprehension is another story). So the question is...where do you think he was born? The only possible way to make this argument is to say that he was born in another country.
Out Of The Box
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3 months ago: Perfect,

In our new found tradition of restraint and respect for other people's opinions, please refrain from calling people stupid.

Now here's the crux. All you have to go on is what you have been told.

As I recall, a certain recent President was accused of convincing half the world into entering an unjust and illegal war, based on lies and forged documents. Are you saying that it couldn't possibly happen twice?
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: "In our new found tradition of restraint and respect for other people's opinions"
~This must be really new...I've never experienced such a thing on this site. That being said, I'm simply telling the truth.

Answer my question...Where was he born?
Out Of The Box
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3 months ago: I don't know where he was born. I wasn't there at his birth.

Now answer my question. Are you saying a conspiracy of the magnitude of Bush, Cheney, the CIA, the French Intelligence Agency, and half of Congress lying, forging documents, and getting us into an illegal war involving scores of countries and causing hundreds of thousands of deaths couldn't happen?

What's the difference?
3 months ago: Box. The difference is...

one is legally out of office

and

one is illegally in office
sunny2
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3 months ago: Something is radically wrong. How can you not question this?
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3 months ago: You guys know I have respect for what you say, however, no one is ignorant or stupid if they question. We have to question.
I really like the guy. I think he has to connect and listen more to the people. The people have been going through a hard time listening to the outrageous battles, and they have been left in the cold.
How can you say there isn't some controversey if his mother was not within the law when she had him. She had to be here 5 years and she was only 2 years into it. His citizenship did not come automatically.
I think it is a little too late too because he has been in office and the people voted him in as President. If the people feel he will do a better job, then the rest of those running, he will get in. Nobody likes change when they don't know what to expect.
Well, he is doing something with the long-term unemployed by putting funds out there for them to learn new skills.
The facts are the facts and it is right there in print.
3 months ago: Sunny,

The problem with 'Perfect' questioning or thinking about these possibilities is that it takes work and research. It is easier for him to call someone stupid without a shred of evidence to prove his point. This is the epitome of arrogance where someone "says it, so it is" ...I don't know if you will get an answer.
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3 months ago: Truth, I think I have an understanding with him.
I write and he doesn't answer.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: "This is the epitome of arrogance where someone "says it, so it is""
~I think I have had this very same conversation with you about the existence of God...strange how it only applies when it is convenient for you.

I have all the evidence I need. I have physically seen the birth announcements from both Hawaiian newspapers.

I ask all you whackjobs...where do you think he was born?
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3 months ago: Now we are whack jobs? So we are stupid, ignorant, what else?
I'm not arrogant ever. I'm curious.
I said to you about God that it didn't matter to me because you said you are an atheist. You have me confused with someone else. I never knock anyone's beliefs. I have my own. It is whatever works or whatever a person experiences that gives them that latitude of belief.
Okay about the Hawaiian newspapers. I was waiting for someone to tell me something different. That's it. Why is it so personal to you, Perfect? When it is settled it is settled and that will be it.
I'll read it over again.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: First of all...this was a response to Truth, not you.

Second of all...yes...anyone who honestly believes that Barack Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, and also at the same time doesn't understand that the fact that he was born in Hawaii makes him a Natural Born US Citizen (regardless of the citizenship or nationality of his parents) is being ignorant (whether it be on purpose or not).

Third...I'm not taking anything personally, however you seem to take a lot of things very personally.
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: That's fine.
3 months ago: Which Hospital in Hawaii was he born? The list keeps expanding...
3 months ago: "he is more white by his actions than most want to admit, "

Jesus.
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: Aren't people just people in their actions?
I don't know anything different than that.
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: In what way, Slim?
He compromises a lot. He is a Mason, I've heard. He is tough at times.
So are my relatives Masons who are in politics.
He wants power, fame, and fortune. So does everyone.
3 months ago: Slim,

Definitely not Jesus, Obama is a front runner for the eugenics club Planned (un)Parenthood which targets blacks! That's a bit 'white' supremacy if you ask me!
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: Box, I don't see your comment here.
You know as well as I that people are questioning it and want straight answers. I see the 16 plus doesn't apply. People will not stop until they get the answers. People have doubts and after a while when it is resolved, they can move on.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: A question to everyone:

Where do you believe that Barack Obama was born?

PS: If you say Hawaii you are 100% admitting/agreeing that he is a Natural Born Citizen.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
3 months ago: My answer: I don't know where he was born. Neither do 99.9999% of Americans.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: 99.999% of all people know that he was born in Hawaii, .0001% of people are blind sheep following a handful of whackjob conspiracy theorists...I suppose you believe that the world trade center was rigged by a demolition team too right?
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: The people who follow this path are 1 of 2 things:

1: They don't like him for an irrational reason (he's black, they think he's a "mooslim", they think he's a communist, etc..)

2: They are too lazy to come up with rational policy based arguments for why he is not a good president so they latch on to the "easy" answer.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
3 months ago: "99.999% of all people know that he was born in Hawaii, .0001% of people are blind sheep following a handful of whackjob conspiracy theorists"

Did they witness this birth? Or were they just told to look at some papers and believe what they said?

For that matter I recall a certain other Messiah that was born in a manger some 2000 years ago. Do the overwhelming preponderance of Americans who believe that have any proof other than what they have been told? Are the disbelievers a bunch of whack jobs being led astray by a handful of Atheist conspiracy theorists?
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: Did any of the Christians alive today witness his birth? Christianity was created as a means for the rich to control the poor...nothing more.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
3 months ago: My point exactly, and I guess you realized that.

You didn't witness Obama's birth, and you have no idea where he was born.

Sorry to see you go.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
3 months ago: Classic. Stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes, shouting "blah blah blah I can't hear you!!" as you exit stage left.
3 months ago: OOTB,

"Are the disbelievers a bunch of whack jobs being led astray by a handful of Atheist conspiracy theorists?" Good point... however the argument is supposed to only work one way... why is that?:]
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
3 months ago: I never figured that one out. I don't know why questioning Obama's story is considered taboo, even though there is far less evidence supporting his claims. Just believe whatever he says, no matter. I think they feel racist if they question a black guy.

Questioning Jesus, though, is considered the height of intelligence.
3 months ago: Perfect just envoked two rules of Aruging with Donkeys.

1) Racist
2) Shouting something off topic
3 months ago: Finally. Perfect admits that Obama is the anointed one.
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: I don't believe anyone is certain where he was born.
We have to wait and see. I would think Hawaii, but there are too many questions that remain to be answered.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: Ok, let's play pretend then:

Let's pretend for the sake of argument that he was born in Kenya.

Can you honestly tell me that a rational person can believe that in 1961 his parents had the means to bribe not 1 but 2 newspapers into running FAKE birth announcements, and that they could do this from Kenya, which in the 1960s virtually ZERO infrastructure (i.e. Power, Telephones). Further, even if you could believe this...then you must also believe that his parents were some kind of magical beings gifted with foresight as to know that their infant son would some day grow up with aspirations to be the President.

It is complete and utter nonsense. If you believe this crap then you are probably one of the people who believe that the world trade center was rigged by a demolition crew on 9/11 and that they were destroyed in some great conspiracy. Both are the products of total insanity by a handful of whackjob conspiracy theorists...neither have ANYTHING to do with reality.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
3 months ago: There is a possibility that the birth announcements were faked recently, and the faked copies were inserted into the archives recently. If someone were to come up with a copy of the paper that was purchased in 1961 and survived 51 years then it would be more believable, but still not definite proof.

The evidence that he was born in Hawaii is not infallible. It is believable, at best.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
3 months ago: As Ron White says: "You can't fix stupid"

.../sigh...I'm deleting my account...this site is a joke filled with right wing whackjobs and irrational people and evangelical "smack you in the face with the Bible til you believe it" nuts...so not worth the time.
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: I don't want you to leave.
Happy Valentine's Day Sunny
3 months ago: Perfect,

No one smacked you with a Bible on this one, we are just asking the obvious questions after the State of Georgia Courts considered it enough to sopena Mr. Obama on such matters. Ron White must be right.... you would know.
3 months ago: TCGs final tribute to Perfect Ho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yePM6-2z...

He would be the one with the advanced degrees in the grey suit.
3 months ago: Everyone needs to vote on this one. Since Perfect deleted his account. Should I delete his twitter feed? I do own it. I'm having mixed emotions on this topic as it has given him more followers than he has on his regular twitter account. He does need some support. Even if it is helping him into rehab.
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3 months ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzS...
Another one Bites the Dust -- QUEEN

anonymouse
anonymouse
Swaziland
3 months ago: I'm back!
anonymouse
anonymouse
Swaziland
3 months ago: Anyonne miss me?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
3 months ago: That depends. What you got?
3 months ago: Or who?
3 months ago: You have to ask?
3 months ago: You guys want to have some fun with this account? Start sending emails with attachments to it until it reaches it's limit. Then repeat everyday until Yahoo deletes it.

anonymousespy@yahoo.com

Call it a RR DOS.
anonymouse
anonymouse
Swaziland
3 months ago: Mmmm you may have something there
anonymouse
anonymouse
Swaziland
3 months ago: if you do it again i will return the favour
3 months ago: OK whatever, let's move on to PART II

OBAMA'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER PART OF A MANUFACTURED FAKE IDENTITY
http://www.zimbio.com/Barack+Obama/artic...

...this private investigator found that Obama's SS# was issued between 1977 - 1979 in the State of Connecticut, and is willing to testify in "open court" to the same... hope she lives long enough!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-urw7ddw6Dv8/Ty...

Also the number appeared to have been issued to someone prior to Obama in the year 1890.... DANG!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UIbRSmDtPIE/Ty...
3 months ago: "During her investigation of Obama's use of the Connecticut social security number, Daniels also located two social security numbers associated with Michelle Obama, one of which Daniels stated does not belong to her.
On September 30, 2009, Daniels submitted a sworn affidavit of her findings for both of the Obamas which was assimilated into the Barnett v. Obama lawsuit. A second sworn affidavit was submitted on October 19, 2009."
http://www.zimbio.com/Barack+Obama/artic...
3 months ago: The interesting thing, though some would claim to "debunk" this whole issue, is that Mrs. Obama's use of 2 numbers is also on the table... and it is enough evidence that the lawsuit was upheld in Georgia... that is until Obama 1st) was in contempt by failing to appear, and then 2nd) after contempt, the case was mysteriously dismissed? I wonder how much a Georgia Courtroom is going for these days?
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: I don't get this.
It seems risky to do something so bold.
3 months ago: Well, what else is it when a person can defy a court order and not be held accountable?
3 months ago: Would it be any riskier than any other fraudulent things this gov does?
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: We need change for certain.
EdiciusRebirth
EdiciusRebirth
Lake Geneva, WI
3 months ago: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: What's your opinion on this?
EdiciusRebirth
EdiciusRebirth
Lake Geneva, WI
3 months ago: the evidence is pretty straightforward as presented by snopes
3 months ago: EdiciusRebirth,

No one has to think anymore thanks to snopes, who is always right... Seriously!
It's like saying Jerry Springer is always right !:]

'SNOPES GETS IT WRONG ON HATE CRIMES'
http://www.wnd.com/2007/07/42497/

Slacktivism: Why Snopes got it Wrong About Internet Petitions
http://www.frogloop.com/care2blog/2010/4...

"Snopes is run by a liberal husband and wife tag-team. They have no staff, no education or credentials that would make them experts in any area, no less investigative reporting or finding the truth about internet myths."
http://cjv123.hubpages.com/hub/Snopes-Is...

Snopes? ZZZzzzzzzz ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz OH, YAAAAAAAAAAAAWWNNNNNNNN
3 months ago: EdiciusRebirth,

My bad, Welcome to RantRave !:]
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
3 months ago: Welcome back, Edicius
3 months ago: EdiciusRebirth,

What do you think?
http://rantrave.com/Rant/SNOPESME-Debunk...
3 months ago: Dang. I leave you nice people alone for one day and you run off Perfect. I'll be catching up on the post shortly.

I'll start here by explaining to Perfect Ghost that birth announcements are like obituaries... Paid advertisements... You think the paper requires a death certificate before printing an obituary? Besides... Grandpa and Grandma probably contacted the newspaper. When does the newspaper document the original purchase of that bogus advertisement and by whom?
sunny2
sunny2
3 months ago: I'm all talked out until tomorrow.
Good Night.
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3 months ago: We may be just getting started !:]
3 months ago: When we get done with all these questionable anomalies, we will get to some "meat and potatoes" fraud, like Obama's Selective Service card...

"More recently, it was discovered that Obama's Selective Service card may have been doctored. Federal law requires all American males to register for the Selective Service (the draft) in case a major war broke out. Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama's Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older. Indeed, the forgers forgot to alter the "Document Location Number" which shows that it is clearly a 2008 form. This is fraud and it's a felony and Schlussel's allegations are backed up by Stephen Coffman, a former high-ranking Federal agent. Moreover, the document shows a September 4th, 1980 date and the location of the transaction as Hawaii, but at that time Obama was thousands of miles away attending Occidental College in Los Angeles."
http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusi...
3 months ago: "Barrack Obama's Grandmother, Madelyn Dunham ...was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people."
http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusi...
churchstateguy
churchstateguy
San Diego, CA
1 month ago: The claim that Obama's dual citizenship disqualifies him from being president is based on faulty hopeful conjecture... nothing more. To believe that that disqualifies him is just grabbing straws since every other potential for criticism has been wiped out.

This is rooted not so much in racism at it is in nativism. The faulty belief that "native-born" Americans are the "real" Americans who are qualified to be president. Obama would be the third president to have dual citizenship, following James Buchanan and Chester Alan Arthur -- both of which had Irish fathers. America is a nation of immigrants, and our legal system is built to protect that and encourage it. Get over it!

If you want to criticize Obama, start with NDAA 2012. There's bigger fish to fry!

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