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Cowboys and.... IDIOTS! Aliens are just stupid.

Posted 18 months ago|85 comments|1,193 views
UFO's ...still unidentified!
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When I heard that UFO's were still unidentified it got me thinking... Aliens must be the stupidest things we have ever NOT encountered! It's been "close" a few times, but seriously one would think that Aliens would at least grab a burger while they were here!?! WHAT is it going to take to get these guys to 'come-out' of the galactic closet?
IF these guys were soooooo smart to invent space travel at the speed of light...
one would think that they would at least show up off-screen!
AND why does Hollywood get all their attention?

OK... I watched the new release Cowboys and Aliens, and for the most part it was the ole' underdog beats Alien bullies flick. Now it it's original 'Predator' style, where a few commando elite are employed to take-out the aliens... here cowboys and renegades have to team up to send E.T. running! I thought the movie was graphically cool (lots of blood and guts) but I am getting tired of the heroes winning against 'imaginable' odds. What I mean is the only battle being fought here is for our minds...
to think that there is even a chance Aliens exist.

Logically "space dudes" haven't even been seen beyond our atmosphere prior to a few years ago... and it seems a little odd that only now with the increase in technology in photography and CGI (Computer-generated imagery) there is an increase in "sightings" as well. Also it also is a little suspect that most of the ones "sighting" these phenomenon have been under hypnosis at some point in there lives. There just seems to be a lot of wishful-imagination... or deception.

From what I can tell the whole UFO thing is more like a religion than anything resembling science let alone science fiction. There is nothing to substantiate space travel like what would be required beyond that of space production in Hollywood. If one wants to 'believe' in Aliens and UFO's it's there right... IT would be probably the one thing we have in common. I too believe in and Extra-Terrestrial... but He is not Alien nor Unidentified... He is the Creator and Savior... Jesus Christ!

"1. Science
(a) Never a single contact with an 'extraterrestrial'.
In 1900, the French Academy of Science offered a prize of 100,000 francs for the first person to make contact with an alien civilisation—so long as the alien was not from Mars, because the Academy was convinced that Martian civilisation was an established fact! Since then, not a trace of 'little green men', or indeed any life, has been found on any of the planets which our probes have been able to explore.
Despite this, a great number of astronomers think that, since life evolved here on earth, it must have evolved near one of the many stars out there. In America SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence) researchers have scanned the sky, looking in vain for signals from intelligent beings....."
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...
UPDATE - 18 months ago
Here is a popular "UFO" YouTube video on differing media coverage of sightings... if you look closely you can see light supposedly emanating from the objects to the ground... however quite the opposite is happening. I have been to many light-shows where better quality of objects in motion were projected by lazers into the sky... this looks very similar! I get a kick out of one newscaster's exclamation...
"This is a UFO, IF I have ever seen one!"

UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQ...
UPDATE - 18 months ago
What if what you thought were to be Aliens were Demons? Since fallen man has been on Earth... so has his ultimate and final advisory. Every age has had "close encounters" with illusive beings... until now with the age of technology it would have been unheard of to think that these creatures were from outer-space. Is our modern technological age projecting an attribute on these creatures of deception, that they enjoy as long as they are welcomed? In every other age and ancient peoples these creatures were IDENTIFIED ...only now with the boast of science, spiritualism is made to look outdated... however the experiences are real and have been since time began, so which is really "out-dated?"

Like the fictional movie "The Fourth Kind" the real documented encounters with these beings are similar to the demon-possession of yesteryear. The modes of communicating with demonic entities haven't changed much either... before the practitioners were called Necromancers and Mediums... now they are called hypnotherapists and Psychics among other things.

The Fourth Kind movie review: An artifice of alien abductions...
http://creation.com/the-fourth-kind

"Aliens are just stupid" ...BUT THESE GUYS AREN'T ALIENS!
UPDATE - 16 months ago
OK you guys are going to love this!
An alien movie that rivals Cowboys and IDIOTS... er Aliens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...
UPDATE - 14 months ago
The complete Free Online PDF Book download... "Don't waste your life"
http://dwynrhh6bluza.cloudfront.net/reso...
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18 months ago: If you are wondering about the random typing repetition... it's not Aliens! Just a little DejaVu a little DejaVu !:]
18 months ago: Here is a question... What is E.T. doing when he/she is not visiting our planet? We are supposed to believe that Aliens travel millions of light-years just to mysteriously show up for a few bewildered souls... without message... without purpose.... without contact... that is why I say Aliens (if they exist) are Stupid!
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18 months ago: Well...at least it is not "Cowboys and Iranians". That would really get their underwear in a knot.

http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2011/11/...

I think they should print the picture on their take-out bags just to prove a point.
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18 months ago: I had to correct it Cypress if you asked why I deleted.
Truth do you remember any of the words of Padre Pio. I find him to be very interesting. I remember one time hearing about his life, and people were asking where he had been because they were waiting for him. He replied he had walked right passed them. They didn't see him, nor could they. Not seeing something doesn't mean that it is not there. God made too big of a plan for us to understand it all. I don't think we could handle it at our level.
Perhaps others can't see us as well.
18 months ago: Are you saying Aliens are among us and we can't see them?
...like MIB (Men In Black)?
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18 months ago: By the way, I don't think I would see that movie.
I just think there are other dimensions. It isn't impossible.
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18 months ago: True, other dimensions are possible. I feel that it's a great likelihood, and would explain lot about the passage between Earth and Heaven, from the physical world as we know it, to other dimensions that we cannot perceive, as we are three dimensional creatures. It would explain how God can be everywhere at once, and can be in every time at once.

It could explain why now there is a separate Earth and Heaven, and after the Judgment, there will be Heaven on Earth.

But tentacle waving intergalactic hunters? Little gray guys with big eyes and no mouth? Hordes of aliens dropping down from their mother ship to take over the Earth? That's about as likely as three little talking pigs that build houses.
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18 months ago: Very well put, Box.
There is a lot we can't see with our physical vision as it is, so there is a possibility that there is way more that is out there that we can't see.
A 4th, 5th or more dimensions are very likely.
Eagles and hawks, etc., are given exceptional telescopic vision which we don't have because we don't really need it. I suppose we don't need to see anymore than we do already.
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18 months ago: I believe in ANGELS.
Not big giant bugs, or big-eyed beings with giant heads.
We have big enough heads right here on this planet to deal with.
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18 months ago: You guys are really making me laugh.
18 months ago: Really? Other dimensions are possible but intelligent (or not) life on another planet is not? I guess the world is still flat and all the stars and bodies of the heavens rotate around the Earth.

My mind is a bit more open than that. Other dimensions, intelligent life on others planets, why I even believe that there are good Democrats and good Republicans and a few other political parties have a few good people in them too!

Maybe I'm just nuts....
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18 months ago: I guess I read you wrong the first time.
One has to believe that anything is possible in order to keep an open-mind.
I think it is more comfortable for people just to accept what they see visibly and not anything else beyond that.
You're not nuts. I also believe that there are some good people remaining within the Dem and Rep parties.
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18 months ago: Life forms on other planets are not aliens. They would only be aliens once they arrive here. So far, none have.
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18 months ago: Box we don't know that.
What about the crop circles and the hyroglifics on walls of caves that depict pictures of lost civilizations and advanced equipment? Nobody faked that.
What about advanced artifacts left from civilizations, such as the Mayans, that have been discovered. What happened to some of these civilizations?
We don't know anything at this point. What about Stonehenge which is prehistoric in England. This list can go on and on.
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18 months ago: The crop circles are hoaxes. I don't know which hieroglyphics you are referring to, but I know people tend to imagine things are what they want to believe. Stonehenge could have been an observatory, a rudimentary calendar, or a religious monument, or all three, or none of the above. There is nothing really special about it, considering the pyramids, the Mayan architecture, the moai on Easter Island. They are all man-made constructs, using human ingenuity and lots of labor.

An experiment was done, and researchers made an elaborate crop circle pattern, and invited new-agers and "psychically sensitive" people to come and examine them. It was embarrassing the way they "could feel the peace and tranquility" emanating from the crop circles. They claimed to be able to feel the presence of the aliens, a benevolent race of super beings who were trying to communicate peace and love to mankind. They were simply feeling what they wanted to believe.

The Asch experiments proved that people have a tendency to disbelieve the rational, or discount their own beliefs, if they are told enough times by authority figures and peers that what they believe is false. Likewise, they will also conform to the observations of the group, given enough stimulus.
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18 months ago: Box...Maybe the circles. Who knows?
Hieroglyphics? These are scientifically documented.
18 months ago: So Six,

Your mind is "open"
...even to the possibility of God entering our history as Jesus Christ?

You see, I like this whole topic of Aliens and Space Dudes, because it brings out the FAITH of most "atheists" ...they believe in something they cannot see nor have "made contact" with the human race. Unlike our God who consistently communicates with us through His timeless Word, and has made contact through Jesus Christ ...establishing His domain and purpose for all mankind.
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18 months ago: Very smart.
18 months ago: Why would it be necessary for me to believe in your religious fairytales to be open to the possibility there could be other life forms in the universe? Especially with the basic problem of your tales central figure fathering himself.

Guess I have to be closed minded on that topic, especially since I've already expressed my views on religion.

The "faith" of many atheists is that nothing is unchangeable.
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18 months ago: Six, I have respect for everyone's beliefs, or non beliefs, but I wouldn't want anyone to force their beliefs on me as it would go against my grain.
When people are close to their religion through faith, it is through life experience that brings them that far into understanding it. There are others that simply accept and believe because it is a gift.
History, the past, whatever, is not a fairytale. It is a reality. True believers who are religious have a feeling of closeness with their maker. Maybe the Bible is not your thing, but to others, it is a way of life.
Our central figure, Jesus, has kept the world in order. Many fear him as well as love him. It is like a child loving their father.
Medically, woman can have children without men through artificial insemination. Thank God for that alone.
The form of asexual reproduction is the formation of new individuals from the cell of a single parent, such as:
Fish and plants which are among those. There are some plants that use their roots for asexual reproduction. I remember from biology that the dandelion is one of those species that reproduce asexually. The aspen trees send up roots that make stems and another tree until there is a forest of these trees from one plant.
If that happens in nature, why couldn't that happen in a human?
He was a special man and not a figment of anyone's imagination.
Even atheist follow a way of life under rules and beliefs whatever it may be. Nothing is impossible because down the road we find new answers.
Since Jesus is God to Christians, he would know far more than us.
I don't think I would ever turn my face away from a man who loved all humanity and died for them. That's not a fairytale.
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18 months ago: To add, some believe that God is in Nature.
If that is the case, why would anything be far fetched.
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18 months ago: Six,

I was just wondering why you would be so selective in the fairy tales you do believe in. Extraterrestrial life is a fairy tail, with absolutely no basis in truth, nothing observable on the physical plane, no empirical data to back it up.
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18 months ago: Six, you stated: ..."Especially with the basic problem of your tales central figure fathering himself."

But you have no problem with the evolution fairy tales that claim life on Earth fathered itself.
18 months ago: Six,

you said... "The "faith" of many atheists is that nothing is unchangeable" ...well that is what I hope for... and that is why I see Atheists come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior !:] The only thing I see unchanging the most is the claims of "science" from one year to another.
18 months ago: ...regardless of the facts hoaxes of "science" about evolution are still in the textbooks and claims of unfounded Alien lifeforms... are best left produced by Hollywood.
18 months ago: The supposed Christian belief that Jesus Christ was the Son of God that has been construed to the belief that Jesus Christ was God in human form and fathered himself via Mary, is quite different from the belief that simple lifeforms came into being from the primordial soup of a new planet over millions/billions of years of cause and effect (evolution). Your comparasion between the Jesus/God conundrum and the evolution "fairy tale" is unworkable due to the time frames, evolution over billions of years and birth of a child in about nine months.

Of course now you will fall back on the "God can do anything" explanation.

In my pre-teen and teen years, I was taught that Jesus was the Son of God, that God fathered Jesus by causing Mary to be pregnant with his child. At no time was it taught that God and Jesus were the same person. Since then I've learned to make my own judgements of what I read and what I am told but any way you slice it fathering yourself just doesn't work.
18 months ago: Sunny, I have never said that Jesus Christ didn't exist as a man during the time period he is supposed to have lived in. Many hstorical figures lives are larger than what might seem possible to us in this time and age, but was normal everyday life for them in theirs.

Asexual reproduction is the norm for some species and is somewhat possible for humans. The God/Jesus thing is not an example of asexual reproduction.
18 months ago: Extraterrestrial life is a possibility. Why shouldn't I believe in possibilities? Just because I don't believe in a religious fairy tale that I do have historical records (empirical data) to consult and evaluate the possibility of it's truthfulness (or not) does not mean I can't believe in something that hasn't been fully studied yet.

Talk about people believing in selective fairy tales!! At least when I see a fossil I don't try to tell others that God made it 5000 years ago just so I would see it now.

I just wonder if other lifeforms looking through their telescopes are so hardheaded as to think they are they only lifeforms in the Universe because they think their God would only make their particular type of lifeform. Actually I would think that those that profess a deep belief in "God" would be the first in line to profess a belief in the possibility of other lifeforms on other planets.
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18 months ago: I never said it wasn't a possibility. If you'll read my above comment, I specifically stated that it is a possibility. It's just not a probability, based on numbers alone. So far, we have only one ratio to work with: 1 out of everything we know about the universe. If we had say 5000 planets, and 3 of them have life, we could say, "Ok, 3 out of every five thousand planets have the potential for life." But we don't. If you want to believe there is life on other planets, don't let me stop you. That's not my job. But I think you are basing that belief on what you wish to be true, rather than on any factual thinking.

I think most people who do hope for other life, for other civilizations on other planets...are just lonely, thinking "Is this all there is? Are we alone in this great big universe?"

Possibilities: The same can be said for spontaneous generation of life. Scientists and mathematicians have calculated the probability of life spontaneously forming out the primordial ooze to 1 out of 10 to the 40,000th power. That's 1 chance out of ten with 40,000 zeroes behind it. That's some pretty strong empirical data against it.
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18 months ago: I know you didn't, but in our minds and hearts, he is.
I realize you have an open mind, but why would it be impossible for Jesus' birth. I'm not saying it was, but I'm talking about possibilities of things we don't know. A higher plateau of any order could easily create a virgin birth.
I just don't think we know everything.
See to me it isn't a God/Jesus thing as you put it It isn't just a thing to be tossed at the curb and taken nonchalantly. It is something that affective the World. That isn't easy to achieve if it were just thought of by the masses of population to be just a thing. I don't sit in judgment, but I am in a place where I have seen a lot of miracles in life happen around me. Who really knows. The birth of a child alone is a miracle.
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18 months ago: Box, I see that you say there are possibilities, but I really think that calling people lonely because their minds want to seek more, isn't a good thing. That is why we have minds. That is like saying books should be burned. You can't but shackles or restraints on minds and thinking. Thinking is like a free ocean. Nobody knows whats in our minds unless we use language. There is a reason for that. Freedom.
There are great minds in this world in our past history that explore what is unknown. How to we learn something more, if we sit on our hands and say "that's it, that is all there is because I say so."
With the behavior. conduct, and actions of the people that are war mongers and want to destroy life on this planet, why wouldn't there be research to travel into space looking for new horizons or new life forms. Isn't that what Columbus did? He took a chance in what he believed in. Look at us now. This is only a small planet that is being saturated with its population. How many are hungry now? How many more can be fed? How many wars and bombings, tsunamais, earthquakes, violent storms, poverty and taxes can we handle? No wonder why people try to reach the stars. With the way things are looking in the World, it is as if we are on the eve of destruction. Why wouldn't we want to go somewhere to start over again and be safe to insure life continues. They said space travel was impossible. Flight was impossible at one time, but the Wright Brothers showed us it wasn't. There is much more to be discovered. I like it how it use to be, but I think there are other plans for this planet. No, I have to disagree with you that people are lonely and that is why they reach for something not tangible. Sunny
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18 months ago: Sunny

Looking for other planets for us to inhabit is one thing. Believing that UFO's are extraterrestrial superior life forms is something entirely different.

Columbus set sail looking for a sea passage to China, not looking for the Americas. He had empirical data that led him not only to believe, but to be able to observe that the ships masts came into view before the rest of the boat. Therefore he concluded that the Earth is round. He formed a hypothesis, and tested it the only way he knew how. He set sail toward the curvature.

So far there are no tests we have performed that even remotely support extraterrestrial life. We've not found any inhabitable planets. Even if we did, it would take hundreds of years to get there. And even if we did find some civilization that would take us in, what would we do? Treat them the way we did the Native Americans?
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18 months ago: Box
When I refer to extraterrestrial life form outside of our perameters, I don't imagine little green men with big eyes and huge heads. Of course, they, like us, will be designed to suit their environment and surroundings.
Columbus went through the process of discovery. He didn't know what he was looking for, but he discovered the new world. He had his mind and eyes opened to discovery and possibility. The masts information is interesting. I didn't know that. Do you think with the technology advancements of today that are being made, it will really take 100s of light years to get anywhere? Probably they will invent something that we wouldn't even use space transportation.
What would we do? Good question. If we are going into a higher intellectual culture, I doubt it they will make us push them around. If not, it is the same old, same old. Wars, hunger, disease.... That is what is feared with this privatized space travel. The rich and powerful will turn space into a garbage pail. They are stupid idiots because they can't see the forest for the trees and will make the same mistakes formed by their greed. I don't believe progress can be stopped. Disease and hunger and lost of land were suffered by the Native American Indians, but they hung on to their beliefs and culture. Thank God they pulled themselves out of it, and there were people fighting for them. They are doing pretty good now. It is the rest of us going down the tubes for the sake of our wonderful Leaders.
18 months ago: OTB, consider the type of test being done and the type of life form they are testing for. Could it be they are not looking for enough different types? Who says all life forms have to use oxygen and consume protein? Anyone who puts limits on what a life form has to be like, as in what makes it survive and reproduce, is limiting what they want to find.

If you don't want to find other life forms, don't look. If you don't want anyone else to find them, argue that they don't exist and insist that it is a waste of time and money because it's impossible for other life forms to exist.

As for not finding any inhabitable planets, remember this, they are looking for ones that humans can inhabit, which limits the range of life forms that might be capable of living there even if we can't. Expand your horizons; stretch the limits of your imagination.
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18 months ago: Even if you add the Sphinx in that list and the pyramids. It makes sense that something with high intelligence assisted in this construction. I don't think the people at that time did this on their own.
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18 months ago: Just because there are trillions of other galaxies, and possibly even billions of other planets, it does not automatically mean there are other life forms out there. It doesn't even mean that it's likely. It simply means that it's possible.

I saw a grain of rice that looked exactly like a Hummer H2, complete with wheels and a red paint job. Now, out of the quadrillions of other grains of rice in existence, you would probably assume that there are some more that look like Hummers, or at least vehicles of some sort. But then again, maybe there is only that one.
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18 months ago: Possibility for sure and that is why so much exploration is being done. And that is why great minds continuously explore because of possibility. Man will always look for the next frontier. It is in their souls.
Ha Ha rice looking like a Hummer.
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18 months ago: Actually, it isn't a bad analogy, Box. I get your point.
I try not to assume anything. Possibilities are things that we have left to discover. We have a long way to go to learn more and so much more to explore. I just can't even imagine what we have there in front of us.
I have to read these posts a couple of times to get there meaning.
18 months ago: On that vein of logic... why are all the snowflakes different? ...or all the crystals different? There is more evidence that our Earth is one of a kind with living creatures, than that we are one of many. All creation screams... unique!
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18 months ago: Interesting. How about grains of sands, too.
All different and all unique.
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18 months ago: Part of my logic, too, is this. Look at the grain of rice in question, posed against the backdrop of a small thumbtack: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NpINLHeo8rM/Sz...

Does it look like that rice just grew that way? Or does it look like somebody manipulated it into looking like a Hummer? Furthermore, out of the billions x billions x billions of grains of rice that have existed, does it make sense to assume that, on sheer numbers alone, a percentage of rice is going to spontaneously grow looking like the one in the picture?
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18 months ago: I think most people would respond, "Of course not. Rice doesn't grow to look like a HUmmer no matter how many zillions of them there are. Don't be ridiculous."

Yet, they look up into the sky, and think " Well, there's a whole bunch of stars out there, so there has to be life on at least some of them."

That's is faulty logic.
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18 months ago: We are really made to wonder and question.
Faulty logic, or not, it hasn't been conquered, so therefore, unknown and yet to be discovered. We don't have the answers yet, so why should we put up a Dead End Sign not to go down that road.
Our minds are infinite and has the capability of much more than we use it for, so why can't the universe be explored. Maybe we are just looking for another place.
That's why we think. It is all a big challenge whether there is life somewhere else or not.
18 months ago: Great point!
The Hummer was obviously designed... like everything else around us.
18 months ago: TB, using that logic, one of a kind with living creatures, why can you not expand it to incompas another planet with living creatures that are unique to that environment? Why must you limit "life" to just this one ball of rock? Even in the book you profess to believe in, there is no limit to just this one planet nor does it limit life (lifeforms) to just the ones we see here on our little home.
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18 months ago: I totally believe that anything is possible. We just don't know.
We have a living breathing blue/green planet. Our trees and plants work opposite from what we do as humans. Trees soak up carbon dioxide and release oxygen. For that matter maybe they are aliens. (joking) Any life force, whether plant or animal, can look different than us and function differently. Look around us at the deliberate design and purpose of each and every living thing. They weren't made to look like us, but they have a purpose.
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18 months ago: Wow, some people just don't know how to watch a movie and have a little fun...
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18 months ago: It's just entertainment.
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18 months ago: Truth you have to look at the movie and laugh.
18 months ago: Yeah! It's a great movie... I like all the sci-fi movies... it is just the message that they present as more than mere entertainment, and if anyone is dubious of it's possibility then the doubters are scorned and ridiculed. I just think it is hypocritical for the "science" community to say that "anything is possible" when it comes to Aliens... while being Christophobic, slamming the possibility of Jesus being our Creator.
18 months ago: But I do think that is why more 'Atheists' haven't turned out to defend the "stupid Aliens" in this rant... for now the Aliens are on their own... not many 'Atheists' are ready to come out of the "scientific" closet ...but we all know that their FAITH IS SHOWING !:]
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18 months ago: Yes, you are right.
I see it as combined in life as a whole and not separate.
Science and religion have always been conflicted in their idealogy.
Famous Scientist that believed in God:
Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Sir Francis Bacon and many more.
Then you have:
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo is often remembered for his conflict with the Roman Catholic Church. His controversial work on the solar system was published in 1633. It had no proofs of a sun-centered system (Galileo's telescope discoveries did not indicate a moving earth) and his one "proof" based upon the tides was invalid. It ignored the correct elliptical orbits of planets published twenty five years earlier by Kepler. Since his work finished by putting the Pope's favorite argument in the mouth of the simpleton in the dialogue, the Pope (an old friend of Galileo's) was very offended. After the "trial" and being forbidden to teach the sun-centered system, Galileo did his most useful theoretical work, which was on dynamics. Galileo expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts. Referral: godandscience.org
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18 months ago: We are all unique with a specific reason for living.
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18 months ago: godandscience.org
Evidence for God
Belief in God
Is belief in the existence of God irrational? These days, many famous scientists are also strong proponents of atheism. However, in the past, and even today, many scientists believe that God exists and is responsible for what we see in nature. This is a small sampling of scientists who contributed to the development of modern science while believing in God. Although many people believe in a "God of the gaps", these scientists, and still others alive today, believe because of the evidence.

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18 months ago: I think that many "close encounters" are with extraterrestrials which the Bible describes as either Angels or demons... in the past they have appeared in a manner that people attributed certain similarities, only because they were lacking anything in their experience that could describe them accurately. Today is no different. If one reads the book of Ezekiel that describes the "living creatures" one could easily mistake them for what we would call "space ships" or something else.

"Of the angels he says, "He makes his angels winds, and his ministers a flame of fire." (Hebrews 1:7)
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18 months ago: I suppose time will tell.
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18 months ago: You mean like the ancient paintings in Italy suggesting resemblance of spaceships and astronauts during that time.
I wouldn't close the door on anything. Anything is possible.
I don't think if we saw something like that face to face, we could put a name to it today.


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18 months ago: I think we are on the same page only referring to this differently.
18 months ago: "Research has shown that people who are not affiliated with any church, but who claim they are religious, are particularly susceptible to the possible existence of extraterrestrials. For them, UFOlogy is a substitute religion.[7]"
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/ai...
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18 months ago: I saw a report on this on television last night. Fascinating stuff.

Nuremberg Germany UFO Battle (1561). Nuremberg Battle ... The sky was apparently filled with the machines, clashing in battle for well over an hour. The battle was ... Was an alien body recovered and buried in the local cemetery? Read the ...
http://www.altereddimensions.net/aliens/...
18 months ago: What I don't get is why don't we have some "Alien" interviewed on Larry King... seriously, what is with the phony circus light-show? This is my point... these phenomenon are still UNIDENTIFIED leaving the population to attribute identities and drama... it is nothing more than a grand deception and brainwashing of the public through media and technology.
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: Truth I showed you that this has been going on since Biblical days.
16th Century in Germany. People witnessed something. I wish you would look at the link I sent.
18 months ago: Sunny,

Here is something that may interest you on the possibilities presented in that link...
http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/index...

"Food contamination

The diet of medieval peasants may have been a source of werewolf/UFO delusions. Ergot infection on food grains like wheat and rye was common in Europe during the middle ages. This is actually a fungus which grows in place of grains in wet seasons after very cold winters. Alkaloids of this fungus are chemically related to LSD (LysergicAcid Diethylamide, a strong hallucinogenic psychoactive drug which produces dreamlike changes in mood and thought and alters the perception of time and space. It can create lack of self-control, extreme terror and blurring the feeling between the individual and the environment.) Similar to this modern drug, Ergot poisoning results in hallucinations, mass hysteria and paranoia. Continuous exposure to this contamination through bread or other food items could contribute to either an individual believing he is a werewolf or a whole town believing that they have seen a werewolf/UFO. A recorded Ergot poisoning case confirms this hypothesis. Nearly 135 people had to be hospitalized and 6 died poisoning in the French town of Pont St. Esprit in 1951. They ate bread made from Ergot infected rye. The victims had horrible visions of being attacked by tigers and snakes and of turning into beasts."
18 months ago: TB, same tatics used by religious adherents for thousands of years. Hocus-pocus and brainwashing, so now it's bad form because it is being used by those who don't follow your brand of fanaticism?
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: That sounds right. I could see where food contamination or hulucinatory mushrooms could make people react to things they wouldn't understand.
18 months ago: Six...

now we are getting somewhere... if you can see that the whole UFO deal is indoctrination. What I am pointing out is that either the Extraterrestrials are physical or they are spiritual. IF they are indeed physically real then I say have these space dudes come-out of hiding and have a coffee... what's with all the mystery? IF they are spiritual then that only substantiates what the Bible has been saying for thousands of years... and science is confirming it...

"But God gives it a body as it has pleased him, and to every seed his own body. All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another." (1 Corinthians 15:38-40)
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: Like angels. Children see angels.
I think any being from outter space would need a good drink and not coffee to deal with all this.
18 months ago: TB, I don't see it that way. Religion is an indoctrination, I can see that, but not the belief in the possibility of life on other worlds. Yeah there are nuts out there who indoctrinate others into some cult belief about extra-terrestrial beings coming to Earth to take all the believers somewhere. But those are usually religious nuts who want to get to Heaven by another route.

If you were from another planet would you want anyone on this nutty ball of rock to know about you? Your life expectancy would be nil and that would be after the zealots had you crucified and the government worry-warts had you dissected and cut into tiny little pieces to better study you.
18 months ago: Six,

Much of religion is indoctrination, and for that reason it repulses me... however Jesus Christ is a real person of history who in person (openly and in the flesh) revealed Himself to mankind, and continually reveals Himself spiritually to whomever seeks Him; proving His presence by giving a new life to those who encounter Him (I for one). No, people didn't dissect Him, but yes they killed Him as foretold by His previous word to His prophets... and someday mankind will see His return.
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html

This is interesting also. Alien things or something.
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: Here is something that is entertaining. You mentioned the mushrooms.
When the reindeers go up into the mountains in Norway, they enthusiastically feed on wild mushrooms that cause them to react and give the appearance of flying. I was amazed because they took a photo, and it looked like they were floating when they were running in a herd.
The only thing is that it is nice to believe in something. We have the Holidays in all our religions that we look forward to and celebrate. I am a RC, and I love the Christmas Holidays and the spirit of Christmas. I love the joy on the faces of children and the celebration. You see we believe in that Spirit existing.
Sixer....I was taught that Jesus is the Holy Spirit. The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost. That is what they teach and always have. Some of us except that without question and others question. There is nothing wrong with questioning. Everyone at some point of their lives, will question.
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: You know a lot of it is fun, too. We have great writers that entertain us with fiction based on the probability. Where would we be without their imaginaton. I for one loved Star Trek. It makes people wonder. People love this stuff. Science fiction has always been big. Novels and art come from this. How many things that have been written many years ago, have there been new discoveries made, and so not so far fetched.
I mentioned the bending of light that has been discovered by scientists. It makes sense that there are things we can't see.
18 months ago: The difference between sci-fi and the historical account of Christ is obvious... one is founded on empirical evidence and the other is imagination run-wild...
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: I think my brains are melting.
18 months ago: ...maybe you are having a "close encounter" !:]
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: if so, I hope they don't ask a lot of questions.
18 months ago: I just think that it is interesting that many will think that there is a great possibility for Alien contact (without any solid evidence) ...and at the same time cannot grasp the idea of contact with their Creator, which boasts millions of testimonies of current and historical encounters! Our Creator made a fleshly appearance some 2000 years ago and hasn't stopped showing up in receptive lives since!
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: Jesus is a given, Truth.
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: Do you find any substance in science at all?
18 months ago: Absolutely! True science is something established and observable... and can also be verified by testimony as empirical evidence; what some claim to be "science" is neither observable nor reproducible. In the case for Christ... He was observed and verified, and is also verifiable today by His life being reproduce in those who receive His Spirit.

"Is Eyewitness Testimony Reliable Evidence?"
http://www.comereason.org/cmp_rlgn/cmp05...
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: Without science, we wouldn't have cures for diseases nor discoveries. I don't think we have to worry about little green men visiting us in the too near future. There is no work here.
Iswear
Iswear
Avenel, NJ
18 months ago: Yeah that's true. I do agree with this.Without Science, Nothing can be possible.We never get so much medicines to cure biggest diseases ever.

My site : http://www.moviewatchlist.com/
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago: If the scientist find a cure for pancreatic cancer, which my Dad died from, it will help a lot of people. Only wish they would make it afordable to those of us who don't have deep pockets. I look forward to their work wiping in out some of these tragic diseases.
As far as possibilities, you never know what will be discovered just around the corner.
18 months ago: What if what you thought were to be Aliens were Demons? Since fallen man has been on Earth... so has his ultimate and final advisory. Every age has had "close encounters" with illusive beings... until now with the age of technology it would have been unheard of to think that these creatures were from outer-space. Is our modern technological age projecting an attribute on these creatures of deception, that they enjoy as long as they are welcomed? In every other age and ancient peoples these creatures were IDENTIFIED ...only now with the boast of science, spiritualism is made to look outdated... however the experiences are real and have been since time began, so which is really "out-dated?"

Like the fictional movie "The Fourth Kind" the real documented encounters with these beings are similar to the demon-possession of yesteryear. The modes of communicating with demonic entities haven't changed much either... before the practitioners were called Necromancers and Mediums... now they are called hypnotherapists and Psychics among other things.
The Fourth Kind movie review: An artifice of alien abductions...
http://creation.com/the-fourth-kind

"Aliens are just stupid" ...BUT THESE GUYS AREN'T ALIENS!
sunny2
sunny2
18 months ago:
Talk about some strange things, did anyone sees these pictures?
The plot has thickened in the mystery of the giant structures in the Chinese desert.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15...

Earlier this week, images from Google Maps surfaced showing a bizarre tangle of white lines etched into the Kumtag Desert in northwestern China.

According to Gizmodo, the lines cover an area approximately one mile long by more than 3,000 feet wide.
Since the initial finding, however, people have discovered a number of other strange structures in the Chinese desert. Along with another, similar collection of white lines, there are also


MYSTERY DEEPENS AROUND SATELLITE PICS
Google photos of a bizarre tangle of white lines etched into the Kumtag Desert in China have sparked a flurry of Internet speculation.

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