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Confused. Also desensitized?

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I really can't relate to what happened in Haiti. Truthfully, I more or less don't care. Not just Haiti, but New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina happened, the Tsunami in 2004, China and the earthquake or flood that happened, even New York City on 9/11. I know bad things happen, and I try to feel bad, but I really can't. Not that I don't want to, I just can't.

I can't relate when stuff like that happens. It always seems so far away to me. I have relatives who were in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, but I've never met them and don't even know them, so they're strangers like all the rest.

I know it's probably mean, and if you're confused by me, heck, I'm just as confused as you are about myself. I see the tragedies and the most I end up thinking is, "Wow. Sucks for them. Glad it wasn't me." and I KNOW that's not nice, but it's how I always end up thinking.

It all just seems so distant from me and my life and my experiences and my own problems, so I can't ever relate or empathize. It's only after I've met someone, in person, who was affected, that I start to care. Then I can actually put a face and a life story to it, instead of viewing it all simply from the outside.

Talk about Cancer, and I feel, because I experienced it. My mom had cancer. She died from it. I know what that's like. But I and no one close to me has ever experienced an earthquake, or a tornado, or a hurricane, or a tsunami, a volcano, or basically any natural disaster like that, with that type of destruction. The worst we experience is the cold (I feel bad when I hear of someone being out in the cold).

I'm guessing part of the reason why I can't feel for others like what's happening in Haiti now (and will happen somewhere else in the future) is because it happened so far away. I can't go there, I can't do anything, I don't know anyone, so the part of my brain that normally WOULD feel bad gets 'blocked', if that makes any sense.

Just the other day, I was driving somewhere, and I saw a woman whose car was stuck in the snow. I didn't know her. I pulled over, got out, and helped her get un-stuck (along with two ladies who also stopped to help). I helped her because I felt bad for her because I know what it's like to get stuck in the snow (and also because she was in the way and blocking a large part of the street). But the point is, I felt more badly for this one woman than I ever could for a whole group of people who got stuck in the snow. She was right there, I could help her, and I had experienced what she was experiencing.

If I haven't personally experienced a loss, and/or have no emotional connection to anyone who has suffered, I find it hard to feel. I even have a different reaction depending on WHO is suffering. I'm more inclined to feel more badly for young people (especially children) than old people, non-human animals more than adult humans (and I'm softer toward chidren and non-humans equally - unless the kids did something stupid), etc. With me, it seems to frequently be in contradiction of how society says I SHOULD feel. Which always leaves me feeling confused more than anything (like right now).

People are so quick to mention the 'Human Element' (whatever that means) and how we should all feel bad simply because it's other humans, but really? Humans repeatedly do horrible things to each other, and often figure out ways to kill each other and destroy everything around them in ways similar to nature (or however else they get hurt), and I'm supposed to be heartbroken just because we're the same species?

If I was there, or knew someone very close to me who was, I could probably fully relate and empathize with others. But since I see so much crap happen in the world, I don't know, I guess I've become desensitized. I know I'm certainly confused about it all.

If something bad happened to ME, I wouldn't expect total strangers to care.


*** One thing I WILL say about what's happening in Haiti and other places that had disasters. Why does a lot of the focus tend to be placed on the misery of the rich/better-off, and the better-looking when bad things happen? They're all equally miserable over there, so why does it seem to matter more if a mansion was collapsed, or some cute kids or attractive people got hurt? Also, why is more emphasis placed on the Americans over the Haitians? Is it just a larger-scale version of what happens with me when I hear about disasters?
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THE RONBOT HUNTER
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28 months ago: You are the one that always complains about people in all your posts --Right?

Man did I have you pegged wrong.

I now know that your emotions are all confused.

Well next time you complain, I will know the right way to respond.

Thanks for your personality confessional.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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28 months ago: Locs -

You wrote a few posts that were pretty relevant. Some of them were a little on the whiny complainer side, but nothing like what you've just written.

I have to ask...

What is wrong with you?

Are you so self-centered and arrogant that you think the whole world revolves around you? The only pain that matters is your pain?

You need to grow up.

There are a lot more people in this world than you. They have feelings that are just as important as yours.

If you can't look out on your brothers and sisters in the world and feel anything other than apathy, something is seriously wrong.

"no emotional connection to anyone who has suffered, I find it hard to feel."

You do feel, or you wouldn't help people from time to time. The problem is you don't want to feel or experience anything more than that.

You don't seem to want to relate to people outside of your own little world. Why not?

I don't know what happened to you to put you in this emotional bondage that you display, but you need to figure it out.

You need to find a way out and get over that. It's not a healthy way to live.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
28 months ago: Don’t knock her for being candid guys. Haiti has been having problems almost since its slaves first drove out their slave masters. One corrupt government after other both from without and from within have left its people in shambles; yet if you were to ask an average American two weeks ago where is Haiti and why should we care? I bet you most would not know what to respond.
She is voicing an opinion that most people feel but will not express it. Consider all the supposed aid that will be going to that country in the form of money, medicine, building supplies and food. What do you think will happen to most of it? Haiti has been under martial law now for many years because of the impossibly high crime rates and national lawlessness. The UN has had its peace officers patrolling the Island nation in lieu of a national military force and yet there are places even it won’t go.
The people affected by Katrina also were suffering long before a national disaster hit, so why all the sudden interest now? You notice that part of the US is still not all right yet. We have all already forgotten.
So don’t dump on locks for telling it like it is. Instead we should ask ourselves why the Dominican Republic didn’t get hit by the earthquake too.
28 months ago: I never mentioned the Haitian government(s).
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
28 months ago: I didn't think you did. She mentioned Haiti. Which is why I discussed it in as much detail. I feel that there is a double standard as well. People in general get all touchy feely during a natural disaster but seem to overlook the day to day problems. She may not have put it this way but I think her point was that there are a lot of other problems just as pressing why focus on this one?
28 months ago: There was a girl, and her uncle sold her. That is the tale; the rest is detail.

....Without individuals we see only numbers: a thousand dead, a hundred thousand dead, "casualties may rise to a million." With individual stories, the statistics become people - but even that is a lie, for the people continue to suffer in numbers that themselves are numbing and meaningless. Look, see the child's swollen, swollen belly, and the flies that crawl at the corners of his eyes, his skeletal limbs: will it make it easier for you to know his name, his age, his dreams, his fear? To see him from the inside? And if it does, are we not doing a disservice to his sister, who lies in the searing dust beside him, a distorted, distended caricature of a human child? And there, if we feel for them, are they now more important to us than a thousand other children touched by the same famine, a thousand other young lives who will soon be food for the flies' own myriad squirming children?

We draw our lines around these moments of pain, and remain upon our islands, and they cannot hurt us. They are covered with a smooth, safe, nacreous layer to let them slip, pearllike, from our souls without real pain.

Fiction allows us to slide into these other heads, these other places, and look out through their eyes. And then in the tale we stop before we die, or we die vicariously and unharmed, and in the world beyond the tale we turn the page or close the book, and we resume our lives.

A life that is, like any other, unlike any other.

And the simple truth is this: There was a girl and her uncle sold her.

Neil Gaiman
28 months ago: She put it out there. I'll wait for her response.
28 months ago: “We must begin by frankly admitting that the first place in which to go looking for the world is not outside us but in ourselves. We are the world. In the deepest ground of our being we remain in metaphysical contact with the whole of that creation in which we are only small parts. Through our senses and our minds, our loves, needs, and desires, we are implicated, without possibility of evasion, in this world of matter and of men, of things and of persons, which not only affect us and change our lives but are also affected and changed by us…The question, then, is not to speculate about how we are to contact the world – as if we were somehow in outer space – but how to validate our relationship, give it a fully honest and human significance, and make it truly productive and worthwhile for our world.“

Thomas Merton
28 months ago: It's not a self-centeredness or arrogance on my part, and I certainly don't think the world revolves around me. The thing is, when an event like in Haiti happens, the destruction is so overwhelming, that it's hard for me to react in the way I would if fewer people were in the same situation, or if I were actually there.

For example, if a natural disaster were to hit the city where I live, and lots of people got hurt and much of the city was damaged or destroyed, I'd be right out there helping however I could. Even if it happened in a different city but was still in the state, or in a nearby region. But in a completely different part of the world? The reaction isn't the same.

I'm not saying what happened in Haiti is a good thing. I think it's terrible. But my emotions aren't there.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
28 months ago: Locs4Lyfe:

Your emotions are part of you, your emotions are the reaction of the cause.

All life is cause and effect.

If you see a cause and it does not effect you --then you are out of touch with your emotions.

The cause can be near or far and how you react to it, is the indicator of your physiological state of being.

That way if you don't understand me, try to visualize this:

If a atom bomb would hit Europe, you would mostly likely ask your friend if he wanted to go to a movie.--right?

Because you would not react normally.

He would be affected, but not you -- at least not like other people.

Because you could not see or feel it? Right?

Do you see how I see your problem now.

OUT of touch and out of mind.

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28 months ago: @ RONBOT: That's why I'm confused. If I see something major happen, I'm surprised and even shocked. I know what happened is bad. I know it's horrible, and that others are suffering. Even with knowing all that, and being all for giving help to anyone who needs it, when I try to become invested emotionally, nothing happens.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
28 months ago: Don't beat yourself up too badly Locs. You honestly described what most of the people really feel. There are disasters happening all over but people get disaster overload and can only handle situations they can relate to.
There are millions of people getting slaughtered all of the time. Genocides in Rwanda (800,000 lives), Bosnia Herzegovina (200,000). 400,000 people die each year because of tobacco, 45,000 because they don't have health insurance. These are all just statistics not people with a face.
That is why we bleeding heart liberals would like to see the government get involved, because people get burned out and desensitized, and the aid organizations get overwhelmed when it is Americans that we can relate to and underfunded for foreigners in trouble. They are all people and so are we.
Good post and we need people like you helping us out of snow banks.
28 months ago: "These are all just statistics not people with a face."

Maybe to you all, but not to everyone else.

Sad.
28 months ago: I guess when the twin towers got hit, we should be all right with no one else caring about it at all.

Yeah, right.

They were just faceless people that we should not have given a damn about.

Oh wait. They were Americans.

And of course American lives are far more important than any other lives on this planet.

I thought I knew, but I never realized how twisted and warped some of the thinking of this site was until now.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
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28 months ago: Locs4Lyfe

When you experience or hear bad news, just know that a reaction or response is always an indicator of your level of your own emotions.

For example: The movies are not mostly real life, but they can move you to tears, to anger, to go out and buy something, to have some kind of reaction.

Newspapers or the radio and media, evilly used, can cause wars and genocide.

Look up "Physiological Reactions", it is the secret behind all Scientology processes. And the secret of auditing.

Their God Ron, studied PR and saw that all life is cause and effect or PRs.

He noticed this and created the TONE SCALE of Scientology. Look that up too.

He saw how at any one time, a human would have social or chronic emotional tones.

This tone scale will be useful for you to study where you are emotionally.

Social tones are not permanent, but even chronic tones too are never permanent.

I have 18 years of knowledge on all the Physiological Reaction processes in life and in Scientology.

I know my own tone levels.

I can see by the writing of many of you guys, many factors in your personalities, that make you different than the rest.

If I played cards with you, I would soon know when to see your bet, and take all your money.

In fact, even before I even knew about the Cult of Greed and Sin, I hardly ever lost.

So, after you look these things up you might want study other things about emotions of humans.

I can even write a post on the tone scale in the future.

WELCOME TO THE STUDY OF WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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28 months ago: Locs, you'd make a good doctor or rescue person. You could stay focused on the task without becoming emotionally involved in something you can't prevent but can help repair.

The plight of children in a bad situation touches all but the coldest heart. That proves that you do feel and care, what you do with that emotion could have a negative effect upon your usefulness in a bad situation. If you become overly emotional, you are useless, if you become detached but still functional, you may save the day.

Don't withhold your thoughts because someone may jump all over you for them or psycho analyze you from afar, someone will pat you on the back and tell you to carry on the fight for yourself.

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