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Certain Thin and Fat People

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In general, I'm indifferent about most people. I don't think either way about them. But sometimes, I form opinions about certain people. Thin people and fat people, well, some of them, are an example.

NO, this is NOT about bashing anyone for being whatever size they happen to be. This rant is about certain behaviors that SOME thin people and SOME fat people have. Note, I said SOME. S-O-M-E. While I tend to gravitate more toward fat people than thin, my own weight has nothing to do with this. In fact, I've been both fat AND thin. I'm just expressing my thoughts based on what I see. Regardless of my weight my opinions are still the same.

Although I have to admit that in general thin people (as with any group that has power and privilege) tend to annoy me more than fat people (or other disadvantaged, less powerful groups), some fat people still work my nerves in the worst way.

FAT PEOPLE:

The self-hate and self-bashing needs to stop. I know how hard and frustrating it can be to be fat in a world that worships thinness, but if you're fat and you go around hating yourself, you will lose your mind. Also, lashing out at others doesn't help. It's no one's fault you got fat (no one even knows why some people get fat and others don't), so don't hate the thin ones because you're miserable. It's not worth it.

Don't believe the hype and bogus, BS reports. You're not inferior in ANY way. Yes, you CAN find someone. Tell the haters to shove it. What's with the fat superiority? I don't care if you're fat yourself, talking trash about someone else for being fat is not only stupid and hypocritical, but just as bad as some thin idiot making fun of YOU for being fat. So knock it off. Fat is fat.

What's with the hypocrisy of some of you? You're fat, but you don't even want to look at another fat person as a potential date or friend? If others harshly judge you, why do it to someone else? That's not fair. GUYS, you REALLY need to get a clue. How are you going to talk about a girl having some extra weight on her, and you look like 4 of her?

For the ones who do, do you HAVE to constantly whine and down yourself? It's not cute or attractive and it's just boring. Talk about something else. Quit with those stupid diets. They don't work and they turn you into an obnoxious obsessed turd. You didn't gain weight overnight, you won't lose weight overnight. Stop harming yourself trying to look like someone else. No, you will NOT become more attractive if you lose weight. Ugly is ugly, and you can't change ugly.

Clothes don't make you look fat. Fat makes you look fat. There's nothing wrong with that, but no need to be in denial. It's most likely just an ugly or ill-fitting outfit. As for clothing, ladies, why are you trying to put on stuff that's already ugly and unflattering on thin females? You'd look MUCH better than the thin ones if you stopped trying to dress just like them.

Stop trying to justify your existence to hateful people. You are fine just the way you are. You don't have to explain yourself. It's no one's business what you do.

If you were once thin and got fat, stop acting like it's the end of the world. It's not.



THIN PEOPLE:

To be honest, a lot of you make it hard for people to like you. To be honest, I DON'T much like a lot of you. There. I said it. I've been wanting to say it for a long time now. It's true, though. Whenever you open your mouths, stupid comes out. You'll even start out nice and end up mean.

Why so darn hypocritical? Why is it okay for you to stuff YOUR faces all day long, but you want to talk about any fat person who even LOOKS at food, no matter what it is? Why is it okay for YOU to go out and about, but you make fun of those who are fat, or just plain make them feel uncomfortable? Everything you do, you act as if you're the only ones who are entitled. Don't even start trying to lie, I KNOW you do it, and you know it, too. You're not the only ones who want to enjoy yourselves, or travel, or go on vacations, or be social, or eat, or just exist. Just how insecure are you to want to give a hard time to anyone bigger than you?

Get it through your heads, the whole world is NOT jealous or envious of you because you're thin. That always gets me, everytime one of you mentions a fat person not treating you like a god, the first thing you want to think or say is, "Well, they're just jealous". NO, they just don't like you, you were probably acting like a turd and deserved it.

The fake sympathy is annoying. Take it and shove it up your own butt. No one needs you acting like you're sooooo hurt when a fat person gets teased, because deep down I know you're probably thinking to yourselves you're glad it's not you. They don't need your pity. All fat people want is for you to treat them with courtesy and respect. Also, if you don't want to associate with fat people, fine, but no need to be an A-hole about it.

STOP ASKING PEOPLE IF YOU ARE FAT!!! We all know you're just fishing for compliments. You know darn well you're not fat. Next time one of you asks if you're fat, I'm going to make sure I tell you to your face, "Yep, you sure are!". Shut up. Like I said to the fat people, clothes don't make you look fat. It's most likely just an ugly or ill-fitting outfit.

Quit whining about the few times you got made fun of for your weight, because you KNOW it's not the same as when it happens to a fat person. You can STILL find your body type represented and praised SOMEWHERE. Fat people, not so much. Finding a positive representation of a fat person without any stereotypes attached is like finding a giant bag of gold. Very unlikely to happen. So do I care because you got called "twig" or "beanpole" or some other stupid name? No. It's not nice, but come on, for every one bad comment you get, you can find 100 good ones.

Stop acting like fat people deserve to be ridiculed and humiliated for their weight. No one does. Oh, you mean you actually had to sit near a fat person on a plane or bus and you were uncomfortable? Oh boo hoo. So what? The fat person was probably uncomfortable, too, and moreso not only because of the stupid seats, but judgmental bigots like you who go out of your way to make others feel bad. Public transportation seats, whether on a plane or train or bus, are laughable and only short skinny people and little kids are comfortable on them. EVERYONE is uncomfortable. If you're that bothered, why don't YOU buy an extra seat, or heck, a whole row? Or why don't YOU take the bus or drive? If you say you can't or don't want to, then what makes you think a fat person can or wants to any more than you? Suck it up and STFU about your precious space. The ride won't last forever and you'll most likely never see that person again, so why be an A-hole trying to make someone else miserable? I'd much rather ride on a plane next to a fat person than ride next to a parent and their screaming demon spawn- I mean, child(ren).

OBESITY IS NOT AN EPIDEMIC, YOU PARANOID MORONS. It's NOT. You don't have sex with a fat person and get fat. You don't touch a fat person and get fat. You can't catch 'the fat' from a fat person coughing or sneezing near you. Fatness isn't just floating around in the air. Fatness doesn't spread from person to person. Something like AIDS is an epidemic, simply being fat is NOT. You are not healthier than any fat person just for being thin, nor are you smarter, more moral, more attractive, or any of the crap you use to degrade others. Guess what else? When babies are born they are mostly FAT. Fatness is not unnatural and neither is thinness. Some people are naturally meant to be fat, just as some people are naturally meant to be thin. It just happens. There have ALWAYS been fat people, this is not something new. Eating and body disorders are a much bigger problem than there being fat people. Really, don't you think there are more important matters to be concerned about in the world than picking on fat people? You're just special, and not the good kind of special, either.

Quit assuming fat people are fat because they're lazy and eat all the time. Tell me, are you thin because you starve yourself, work out like a maniac, and are on drugs? Most likely not, so why make absurd blanket statements about fat people? Fat people are not at any more risk than you. If they have health problems, it's not because of the fat. Maybe they're smokers, maybe they're stressed, there's a number of reasons why people are unhealthy. You can't just look at a person and know they're health status, either.

You're a moron if you think fat people are taking up all the resources or are to blame for anything. If a fat person doesn't eat something, is it magically going to disappear and reappear if front of some starving person somewhere else? No. It'll go to waste or be eaten by someone else. If a fat person doesn't drive a car, does it mean pollution will go away? No. Don't even get me started on the dumb claim that the cost of healthcare is increasing because of fat people. That's pure BS and you KNOW it. If healthcare is increasing, it's not because people are fat, it's because of the crap they're forced to eat, they're living longer and getting older and require more care, they keep sucking down medication they don't need because companies just want to keep making more money. THAT is what's making healthcare increase. Not people who are just fat, and if you think they're 'putting themselves at risk' just for being fat, then what about the countless thin idiots who put themselves in dangerous situations and get hurt and need hospitalization? Or have the same lifestyles that are supposedly putting fat people at risk? Yeah, a fat person might have a heart attack or get cancer in the future, but what about the thin people who suffer from such ailments right now?

Fat people know they're fat, 'kay? No need to point out the obvious. How'd you feel if everytime you went out people pointed to you and made comments about your appearance? It's annoying. Also, stop telling fat people to 'just lose weight'. A fat person can't snap their fingers and make themselves smaller anymore than you can make yourselves smarter or richer or more talented. Fat people are not desperate, either. Don't think that just because you're thin you can treat them any kind of way.

When you see a fat person working out or eating something healthful, WTF is your problem when you laugh at the person and talk crap and make snide remarks and rude comments? Just WTF is your problem?!! Fat people just can't win. You make fun of their weight and tell them to eat a salad or not eat at all, and when they work out or eat a salad or try to starve themselves, all you have is discouragement. You're not helping, so STFU!

KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE SEXISM!! Don't even ask, you know what I'm talking about.

Your scare tactics don't work. If shame made people thin, there wouldn't be any fat people. Also, if fat people being at peace with themselves is promoting obesity (which is a bunch of crap) then logic dictates that you are promoting anorexia by being at peace with YOURselves.

If you were fat and got thin, you REALLY shouldn't be trying to look down your nose at others who are fat, because you're probably one illness or wrong meal away from being fat again.



It seems to me it would just be simpler for people to mind their own matters and get along with others than to be hateful over some stupid stuff.
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THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
24 months ago: Your generalizations are showing that you have no knowledge of facts.

Fat people are the majority of this country and many others.

You are not even aware that you are insulting the minority, within the majority.

That means that only a very few fat people behave as you claim.

Very few fat people have inferiority complexes, as severe as you claim that they have.

Inferiority complexes is common to all people of every race, nationality, religion and body type etc..

What you are doing or claiming, does not prove anything or any facts.

You are just expressing your own dislikes of certain people or just mouthing away.

You may have the right to do so. But your claims hold no justifications for dong so.

Superiority comes from internal knowledge of provable facts, that you have accomplished something that makes you above the rest.

So far your claims are just rantings.

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TheLegendTomWing
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Philadelphia, PA
24 months ago: Ahh clothes don't make you look fat, fat makes you look fat. This is an astute observation which I have thought about for a while. Mostly when someone asks me "do I look fat in this." Neat article.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
24 months ago: I'll agree with Ronbot on this one.
24 months ago: There is a THIN line between most fat people and the image they see in the mirror. There is a WIDE line standing at the McDonalds waiting on the three big macs and 6 upsized fries with a diet coke of course.
markbyrn
markbyrn
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24 months ago: ...with a diet coke of course...

you only get the diet coke if you order the Chocolate Shake and a trio of Apple Pies.

There's a story about the Romanian government trying to institute a fast food tax, but of course it would only applies to western fast food restaurants like McDonald's and not to the lard **** producing traditional fare such as stuffed cabbage rolls smothered in sour cream, kebabs, and walnut-studded yeast cake. So they're calling it a McFat tax.
markbyrn
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24 months ago: Dangit - okay let's try lardbutt - will that work?
A Canadian
A Canadian
Canada
24 months ago: Your article is a thinly veiled attempt to justify your fat attitude.

You're not as comfortable with your weight as you're trying so hard to convince people of - you think if enough people agree that fat is okay then it'll be okay for you to be whatever size you are without feeling guilty.

But if you're sucking back buckets of deep fried chicken dipped in double chunk chocolate chip ice cream - you SHOULD feel guilty, it's unnatural and unhealthy. If you're not an imobile food hoover and you just drew the big card, well suck it up and be happy! I drew the ugly card, my neighbour drew the deaf card, some hot young Greek goddess drew the extra-hairy card - it a big deck, be glad you're in the game because a lot of folks get dealt the death card and they didn't do a damn thing to deserve it.

And for the record, obesity has actually become an epidemic. You need to brush up on your English a bit;

Webster's Dictionary:

ep⋅i⋅dem⋅ic
Pronunciation [ep-i-dem-ik]
–adjective

1.Also, ep⋅i⋅dem⋅i⋅cal. (of a disease) affecting many persons at the same time,[ie: the excess of extra-thick folk wandering about our continent these days] and spreading from person to person in a locality where the disease is not permanently prevalent.[ie: we haven't always been overwhelmingly this big in North America]

2. extremely prevalent; widespread.[ie: walk down any street - look in front of you]

–noun

3. a temporary prevalence of a disease.[ie: we weren't always and therefor need not continue to be so]
4. a rapid spread or increase in the occurrence of something: an epidemic of riots.

OR an epidemic of obesity.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
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24 months ago: The Canadian said "Your article is a thinly veiled attempt to justify your fat attitude."

Let us look at this way to see your real attitude.

If you would replace the word FAT or THIN, with a word like Italians or Jews, your personal attitude would get you beaten up in some places.

When you write articles/posts such as this one, with an attitude as severe or prejudicial against a particular group.

It shows that you have issues about many things.

I prefer to educate, help and guide people, rather than put them down as worthless.

You should do the same. It is too easy to be destructive, but much harder to be Human.

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Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: Fat serves many purposes in the human body. There is nothing wrong with fat. Even visually a woman is more attractive if she has curves, curves that are only possible because of the distribution of fat in her body. How much fat a person has or doesn’t have in order to be attractive is definitely relative to culture, region, nationality and historical period. Do some research, you’ll find this to be true.

American attitudes towards fat stem from our sources of fat in our diet. We get most of our fat from empty calorie junk food which we associate with a carefree class based lifestyle. Fast food for example is over laden with fat in most cases and it is not the type of establishment you would see the well to do investor frequenting. However it is easier imagining a blue collar dad home from his construction job driving his family to Mickey D’s. Get my drift? This is a stereotype.

Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: America hates it’s fatness because we’ve associated it with being low class. We tend to believe that the rich, pretty, handsome, articulate, fun loving, well to do person is not fat and so obesity becomes a social stigma because of what we associate it to rather than the health risk it actually is.

Those of you who have been critical of Locks4Lyfe article without paying attention to it as the commentary on social attitudes that it is, have just shown your own biases on the issue.

I’ve said it before that I’m overweight. I’ve tried many diets to loose weight and a year ago tried joinning the “Y” . It has only been moderately helpful but that is because there are other lifestyle related factors to consider such as, you guessed it, what, when, why and how much I eat. Another factor to consider is genetics. Some people for example are short and stocky by genetics. If I were short and stocky then I could never hope to be long and lanky. Therefore even if all Americans could reach a happy medium in our lives then it means some of us would still apear disproportionately fat or skinny or tall or short and it is these differences that will not go away and if America is still fat bias because of it’s association with being low class then a lot of people will still be suffering discrimination then.

But for now it stands logical to conclude that a 500lb., 400lb., 300lb. Even 200lb adult of an average 5’5’ to 6’ tall in height is abnormally fat and needs to see a doctor. Right? Right!
24 months ago: I have to admit. The "some hot young Greek goddess drew the extra-hairy card" was pretty funny.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
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24 months ago: When a rant is more critical than informative or constructive, when it seems to voice personal and prejudicial opinions that hurt people.

Then yes, I take an issue to it.

There are fat people out there that don't need the insults or destructive criticisms.

Let us give solutions and not criticisms only designed to hurt.

What are we here for?

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Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
24 months ago: I think that we as a society needs to start thinking of people not as fat or thin but as in shape or out of shape. A lot of those anorexic women with pencil arms and legs are disturbing. They look like they can barely lift their Coke.

There are a lot of big boned people that are way over the normal weight/height scale but they can work all day. (Visualize the stereotypical Russian woman that can plow the field all day and can lift her husband with one arm).

It bothers me when a person is so fat they can't bend down and pick something off the ground, or if they huff and puff going from their car to their living room sofa. When the weight interferes with the job, it is time to hit the gym, but then most jobs don't require much physical work today. Lets say that if the person is too fat to do a normal person's work. We don't want to become those blobs dependent on robots to serve our every need like in the movie Wall-E.
23 months ago: @ RONBOT: Never once did I ever make the claim that all or most fat/thin people behave as described above. Anytime I rant about people, I always make sure to make it known I'm only talking about SOME. Not all, not even most, but SOME. Nor am I against any group of people, but I won't hesitate to speak out against certain behaviors. There's a difference between people and actions. Also, I hope you don't think I was criticizing people for being thin or fat. I don't care what someone's size is, but actions bother me.

@ A Canadian: Actually, I'm quite fine with my weight. I just don't believe ANYONE should be made to feel guilty about whatever they weigh. What does it matter to you what anyone else decides to eat or do, and however often? If you're not doing it and no one is trying to force you to do it, then it should not concern you. As for 'unnatural' and 'unhealthy' there are MANY things people do that are 'unnatural' and 'unhealthy' and yet they continue to do them. The only reason fatness/obesity has been called an 'epidemic' is because it's a scare tactic. Why aren't malnutrition and hunger considered epidemics? More people in the world suffer from malnutrition and hunger than are fat, but fat is demonized and is more visible. Fatness itself is not a disease (more a result of different circumstances), but hunger and malnutrition can lead to diseases. Yet people feel the need to attack those who are fat instead of attacking the problem of food distribution.
A Canadian
A Canadian
Canada
23 months ago: I must apologise for commenting on your post. I am new here, and had I read some of your other articles first I would have had a better idea of where you are coming from. You are the girl who cannot empathize outside of her immediate surroundings, it makes the hostility in your article turn properly into the expression of hurt feelings it is more likely a symptom of.

As for your question "what does it matter to me, what anyone decides to do or eat?" Well, it matters to me because people matter. Whether I know them or not it bothers me that some folks feel the only way they can have some small control over themselves is to eat, or drink, or smoke or starve to excess. Human beings, doing things that are KNOWN to be harmful - it is their way of quietly killing themselves because they haven't yet found a way to overcome their private pain.

Destructive behaviour is named such for a reason - it is behaviour designed to destroy; truly happy people indulge in moderations of favoured behaviours - good or bad - because they want to live longer so as to be able to enjoy/experience more.

Obesity has not been called an epidemic as a scare tactic, it is a simple fact. The "hunter gatherer" life is easier now than it has ever been in human history, people are far lazier now than just 50 years ago, food is less nutritious, genetic defect more prevelant and social stressors more abundant than ever. Obesity is a symptom of the effects of the world around us.

Malnutrition and hunger, dear girl, are and have been considered epedemic for decades. It is the reason there are so many thousands of efforts to "Save the Children" and "Feed the World" by countless churches, communities, musicians, even school children...

Fat is not demonized, it is simply not appreciated in this century - and although I agree with you that fat IS more visible, it is only so to us - here in North America, where we have more of everything and less desire to appreciate that very simple fact.

Peace to all =)
THE RONBOT HUNTER
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23 months ago: Locs4Lyfe -- your posts are mostly critical rants.

I have not seen one where you try to educate or be constructive and helpful.

The people who come here to read our posts, want to get something useful.

They can get criticized at home or on the job. So, why would they want to come here to receive the same?

If you have knowledge to give of whatever kind, please give it freely and happily to the world.

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Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
23 months ago: Fat is demonized. But not because it is fat but because of it’s social stigma that attaches it to being poor or low class. The wealthy go to gyms and are seen as mostly physically fit . While the poor or middle class are seen as unable to make smart choices. When people see a fat person. They see more than just obesity. They see un-education, poverty, ignorance, crime etc. Not to mention that a curvy body can’t be appreciated through rolls of fat so there is a component of voyeurism involved as well.

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