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Campaign Finance Reform

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Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
As a sort of follow up to the post from yesterday about the 2012 elections I thought I would address a growing issue in America. Campaign Finance has gotten really out of hand.

The following list is the amount of money raised and spent by the winning candidates of recent elections:

2008: $745m
2004: $880m
2000: $528m
1996: $425m
1992: $330m
1988: $324m

The large amount of money being spent on election campaigns is wasteful and unfair to other candidates (for the purpose of this post we will ignore the inherent issues with a two party system and focus solely on finance of the two major parties). I personally feel that we have ended up with sub-par candidates winning nominations and elections based on how much money they can raise. I have put much thought into this issue over the past few years and will now highlight a few key positions that I think would result in better candidates and better Presidents, in addition to far less wasted money. Note that these are general rules and would have slight tweaks based on whether the candidate was seeking his/her parties nomination or should he/she win that the presidential election.

~No more commercials, period. Candidates no longer address issues in campaign messages, but rather waste millions of raised money on television slots to tell us about how bad Candidate B is because he slept with a hooker while gambling in Vegas and smoked some pot 36 years ago. It is a dramatic waste of money and time and takes focus off of real issues.

~Candidates would be allowed to only spend a small amount of money set aside by the federal government each year. Each candidate would get the same amount. This amount would be determined by using the average cost of airline transport (and guess what, candidates can ride in Coach on commercial flights like normal people). If the incumbent President is seeking re-election he would have his share of the pool re-purposed (likely be donated to a charitable organization). This money would cover travel costs only. Candidates will purchase their own food, their own drinks and their own lodging. Looking historically at candidates of the 2 major parties...they are all fairly well off. They can afford hotel rooms and food. Ideally this would be divided between the party nomination process and the presidential election process.

~Shorten the campaigns. The Iowa Caucuses are held in February. Candidates would be allowed to start formal campaigning 3 months prior to the the date of the Iowa vote.

~Private Fundraising, PAC contributions etc. etc. would be severely limited. Though I have not yet determined an exact amount I would guess something in the $2.5m range. This is more than enough to cover the costs of holding public rallies/town halls/etc. Again, none of this money can be spent on media coverage directly (no newspaper ads, no commercials, no billboards etc.)

~Eliminate matching funds. The pool set aside for each candidate will be all that the government provides.

~Debates will be held on PBS stations across the nation. All candidates will be invited and debate rules will actually be enforced.


This is sort of the short list of ideas. The point of all the thoughts I put forth here is to level the playing field among the candidates of the two parties. It would put the Ron Paul's and the Dennis Kucinich's a fair chance at securing the nomination of their party and/or winning the presidential election. An additional benefit of this system is that it would encourage voters to inform themselves about a candidate by taking. By limiting the publicity that each candidate can buy themselves people would have to work a little bit at learning who the candidates are and which ones stand for what they believe in.

This system, however would only fix one half of the campaign nomination/election system. The media plays a dramatic roll in which candidates get nominated/elected. Cable News in particular can really push a candidate and impact the outcome of an election season. I certainly do not want a return of a revamped Fairness Doctrine I do think that the Equal-Time rule should be extended to include interview time as opposed to just the free airtime it currently accounts for, but this is a topic for another post.
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9 months ago: While I agree that Campaign Finance Reform is a logical step it seems the supreme court disagrees. By allowing corporations to finance election campaigns via the first amendment they have effectively opened the monetary flood gates and set back the cause of campaign finance reform to the dark ages.

I find the timing of the ruling suspect when it comes hand in had with the republican congress busily trying to shield these same corporations from having to shoulder their share of the tax burden.

They call them Job creators though in the past 1000 days there has not been one net job created. They should call them salvage specialists as they gut the American economy.

I guess it's too much to ask of the modern republican to provide the American citizen with a "square deal."
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
9 months ago: Well, the way around that would be to talk about some PH's proposals to limit the amount that can be spent on a campaign. That way, the corporations and uber rich hedge fund managers can donate till the cows come home, and only a certain amount will go toward the election. That in itself would stop the special interests from throwing money at a candidate to get special consideration when he gets elected.

Also, limiting the amount of airtime a candidate gets would prevent the media from choosing our candidates for us in the way it has been done throughout the past few election cycles, especially this latest one.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: The media plays far to large a roll in elections, I will be making a post on this in the near future.

As far as these proposals, they are all thought out in a way to reduce the impact of external sources on outcomes. The idea is to have candidates be focused on issues of the times and also to force voters to educate themselves on candidates rather than just go with whoever was bombarded into their living room the most during American Idol.
9 months ago: "The media plays far to large a roll in elections..." a sentiment echoed since the time of Gutenberg.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: I'll be getting around to this issue hopefully over the weekend.
Felix Mannow
Felix Mannow
England
9 months ago: can i ask who pay for it as if you set limit on it then big corporation who buy politician will just pay.
The media pick one they can controls and then promote them everywhere.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: Can you clarify what you are asking?

Corporations would not be allowed to donate. Individuals would, but only up to the limit of *whatever* (2.5m).

Note that last paragraph of the post about media controlling outcomes and how that is bad and I will be addressing it.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
9 months ago: I think your ideas are great Perfect, but Slim is right. As long as Corporations are legally considered people and as long as their spending is protected by the 1st amendment, then all campaign financing regulations are considered unconstitutional.

As things stand Corporations or groups like the Chamber of Commerce can spend unlimited amounts and finance and run attack ads and smear campaigns and never have to disclose what they are spending. They can literally buy elections. These court decisions by a radical activist Supreme Court has stolen our democracy.

The only solution would be to get Congress to reverse those two opinions. They can legally define that sort of stuff. All money should be eliminated from all political offices, and all offices should be publically funded

If donations were allowed, they should be shared so there would be no Quid pro quo. If all donations were put in a pot and split evenly between everyone that ran and also to finance a series of free debates televised by all at least 1/4th of the channels, then it might be possible for the best and brightest to be elected, not just the richest and most powerful.

It would be better if we had at least three viable political parties. Now the independents are not represented. Better still do away with political parties altogether.

Have a series of debates (say 4) once a month, with everyone invited. (say 8 people) Then after the debate have a mail in or email preference vote where you give 8 points to the one you like 7 to the 2nd choice etc. Then the two with the least points are eliminated.

Next month the 6 debate. Another preference vote and another two are eliminated.

Next month the 4 remaining people debate and two more are eliminated.

You have your president and vice president. Then in the final debate you vote on who is in the # 1 slot and becomes pres. and who is in the # 2 slot Vice President.

Without parties, people would have to cooperate and do what is best for the country - not what is best for the party, and preferential voting would insure that they would not tear each other down because they would have to cater to the vast majority, not just the radical base of the party.

The same process could be used for all bills. !st a simple up and down bill to decide if an issue needed action. If yes, then at least three proposals would be written up, and preference votes to decide the best. Once again the best plans that attract the most votes would be the bills where they cooperate to get the best solutions for the nation. This would sure beat voting for whichever special interest gave the rep. the most money.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: Even if corporations were treated as individuals their direct contributions would be limited to the contribution cap under my plan.

Media coverage is a separate issue, which I will discuss further in my next post.

The clause about no commercials...period. That would extend to corporations too. I literally mean no television commercials about politicians would be allowed during the election cycle.

Or if that is too much censorship then it would be easier to include a clause in election law that states that if a corporation does run an add that the cost is reduced out of the cap limit for private contributions (so if a corp ran an ad during a major sport event for instance that would likely wipe out the candidates private fun which is not something that would help them get whoever they want elected)
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: I will also be covering the issues with the 2 party system we are plagued with in a (near) future post
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: Something hands on has to be done soon.
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: Good comments and a lot of good ideas. Thank you. I will read all today. We need more people to advocate I don't know what is happening to the people. Have you looked at Boehner lately he actually appears as if he is the President. I hear him talk down to the President. I can just see him President of the USA standing there crying his eyes out saying he made it.
Colorado
Colorado
Westcliffe, CO
9 months ago: Great post, I vote for you!

By the way. here is something very fun to do if you have some time...

I have been reading candidate's books, the ones they release before they run for election. Then I read their speeches and the contradictions pile up.

Oh course there will always be some inconsistencies but you would be shocked how much flip flopping that takes place.

Your back and on fire, thanks for the post.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: Indeed. I have been reading like a madman since I got my Kindle.

To play devils advocate: Those books could be a projection of personal preferences, not public positions. For example if you and I wrote a book about sunshine and unicorns and rainbows and everyone happily frolicking through the woods that may be what our preference (utopia) would be...it wouldn't have any relationship to reality though.
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: This is a good thread because people need to be aware. Most people on a whole don't pay attention to what is going on. I've been horrified, also, by the inconsistencies since Obama took offices but that is all we have had. He has flipped flopped all over the place. President's have done this before. They feed the public what they want to hear and think what are we going to do about it anyway. Looks as though people don't really matter to the Government, but it does matter to us. I was in shock when the Chamber of Commerce had such a free hand in giving money to whichever candidate they choose so that they could win, and it worked. What right did they have to do that? I was sick when the President caved in so easily to the Republicans giving them whatever they wanted, and it looks like he will again. That was a big switch from his campaigning enthusiastic promises. The big question following everything that has been mentioned in this thread is how is it going to be fixed and who is going to do it? Everyone is sitting on their hands with ideas and doing nothing. The people who are out there trying to help have had to give up because of a lot of talk and no support. We need strong leaders.
9 months ago: Perfect,
How would you make it totally transparent so there could be no corruption.
Corruption comes in many forms and is all around us.
Some of your idea's are good but the Rich big guys will find a way around it they always do.
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: I agree. Who will put those laws into effect.. only the people putting up a good fight. Where are they all?
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: This of course would be challenging. I think for there to be any true transparency it would have to be overseen by a neutral entity. Neutrality however would be difficult to find for this purpose. So unless we want a multi-country oversight panel we would have to have extremely strict laws with very harsh punishments for breaking the Campaign Finance laws. A Constitutional ammendment dealing with the issue could perhaps come into play. It would be difficult, but I don't think impossible.

Of course we could always let Canada oversee it
Felix Mannow
Felix Mannow
England
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9 months ago: Canada oversee it.
They not do anything and the french not able to make decision.
the only ddecision they can make is garlic in or out.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
9 months ago: Politics is local and I think to change any system you have to start at the local level. There are about 20 different communities using preferential voting. I think this would be a good way to start making the two party system obsolete. http://archive.fairvote.org/?page=1465&a...

With just two parties either they are at loggerheads and nothing gets done or one party is ascendant in which case they do what they want until they overreach at which point the other party will overturn them and then they will have their turn.

A stable and sustainable system would have at least three parties and they would have to cooperate with each other to get stuff done.

With the dissatisfaction with both parties right now you would think it would be easy to get a third party going right now that would be centrist. Most states have serious handicaps for third parties and if a third party candidate does run they often just end up being spoiler votes which end up getting the worst people elected. Preferential voting would eliminate that. But it would also be good to go to proportional representation so if there are three parties they would also have a chance to govern.

There are of course serious financial handicaps to third parties. With campaign finance laws and public financing they at least had a chance. Now with the unlimited money of special interests it will be even harder. balancing that to a certain degree would be the ability to make money and campaign on line.

This is a good comment on what a third party would look like. There is an unfilled niche, that would include equality for all and environmental progressives. You could wrap in the Green Party and all of the disaffected minorities and the LGBT community that don't think the Democrats are doing enough. Have you heard of the Tequila Party? http://www.rollcall.com/issues/56_139/Te...

Also there should be a party that caters specifically to women - one half of the population. http://www.holisticpolitics.org/NewParty...

Here is another: http://www.openleft.com/diary/15085/star...

One thing most states do is allow the initiative process to get bills on the ballot. The first thing that should be done is make a law redefining corporations so they do not have the rights of people.

Then (or at the same time) We should start initiatives that would eliminate handicaps put up by the two parties.

You should attend city council meetings and try to get preferential voting started there and then move up to State Legislatures.
sunny2
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9 months ago: How did it get this far? I don't know if it will ever turn around before a big fall happens.
We started a Board in a local Town. Our mission is to help in the development of education for the school children that are being sorely denied a proper education. Not many people came but the local politicians assigned to that District did come and were pleased with the effort and interest that was being taken. That was the main idea to get attention from the representatives and make them aware of what we are trying to accomplish and that we care. These folks will get involved when people show they want change and most on a local level care about their Districts. It is a start, but I found the local residents not to be informed and more accepting of their diminishing rights. They are in a rut and can't get out. It is very difficult for them to break away from an outdated and clannish way of thinking. It is more about themselves and hard for them to let outsiders in even if it is to help them. They don't understand it isn't about trying to make a friend or family brought into the limelight, it is to benefit the Community living and welfare. It isn't about trying to make a few dollars for themselves when saying they are offering to help raise funds but want a share of the pie. Therefore, people who say they want to help and contribute are unable because they join a cause for the wrong reasons. This is a big problem, and it hurts the main purpose. There is a major problem with total lack of communication and an inability to set old traditional ways aside. This is why it is hard for change to come in these areas that need it the most.
Most won't let the outside in to help them and resent it and nothing gets done. Some of the people in this council get influenced by their so called friends that they feel they owe and get used not even realizing it. It destroys the purpose. It is a tough up hill battle. The deterioration of these Towns one by one because of poverty and lack of education is what will bring down the entire Country leaving it in shambles. They will have no voice but will be forced into obedience by the Government's will. Someone has to step up.
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: Al I read the rollcall link you had up there and that is what I am talking about. It is full of problems and a big tug of war.
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: Link Huffpost AOLNews.com
WASHINGTON -- Debt ceiling negotiators think they've hit on a solution to address the debt ceiling impasse and the public's unwillingness to let go of benefits such as Medicare and Social Security that have been earned over a lifetime of work: Create a new Congress.

This "Super Congress," composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers. Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers -- six from each chamber and six from each party.

Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote.
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Felix Mannow
Felix Mannow
England
9 months ago: The problem too many cook in kitchens.
Politicians are crook.
If you say spend 2 dollar they will spend 10 and hides other 8.
Peoples in charge needs to be trust and that hard to find.
Good ideas on paper but not practicals to do.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: Practicality was not the burden of proof I was aiming for. The right thing to do isn't always practical.
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: I like what you have to say Perfect.
9 months ago: Charlie says, "Political funding is out of hand. It has gotten so that only the very well backed can run for office. Politicians should not be allowed to spend more than a few thousand dollars on a campaign. That would keep them honest. Any more and they've sold themselves to the highest donation. It is really sad!"
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: People are too silent Dwayne. They have to make some noise of protest.
9 months ago: Charlie says at Sunny2, " That is the problem sunny. We don't really have a voice because our representatives have sold their voting and veto powers to the highest bidder. How could anybody ever believe that someone who makes under 6 figures a year yet spends millions of dollars in campaigning could ever have their best interest at heart? If we the people had multimillion dollar lobbying groups like the corporate money grubbers do then perhaps our voice would be heard but as it stands our voice is drowned out by big bucks, too bad!"
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: Something has to break. People will get sick of it sooner or later. We still have our vote and that will be our voice. Those Republican goons are not for the people.
9 months ago: Charlie says, " The Republican party is due for a huge coruption scandal, the likes that has not been heard of since the birth of the party. You just wait and see and when that happens I don't think it will survive the scandal."
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: They are living in a dream world being so smug.
There is a lot going on I'm sure the people don't know.
I never saw out and out corruption as this.
9 months ago: the sad fact is corruption is everywhere.
every country in the world has it.
9 months ago: Charlie says to English Male, "This more than average political corruption. It is the same political pull behind Rupert Murdock that is causing trouble in your country that is causing trouble in ours. The fear Sunny2 and I are expressing is at a seemingly unstoppable force with very deep pockets that has bought it self into every aspect of government and now it seems it is multinational. How else could it be that these international corporations have taken control all over the world? The republicans are an instrument of These corporate dogs."
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
9 months ago: Democrats and Republicans alike are the instruments of the super powerful. During the day they pound each other, and at night they have dinner together.

What have the Democrats actually gotten done in the past six years? Whined about the Republicans. Now the Republicans are doing the same.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
9 months ago: Both political parties are subject to the influence of lobbyists and as OOTB said become the instruments of the rich and powerful and the big corporations. The Democrats are not quite as reliant on the special interests as the Republicans because they rely on millions of small donations instead of million dollar donations from the fat cats.

The main reason the Democrats haven't gotten much done is that the Republicans use every procedural effort to block and slow down legislation and they use the filibuster to require a 2/3rds vote to get anything done. We need to eliminate the filibuster or at the vary least make them stand there and keep talking as they did in Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.

The main danger from the Republicans is that the majority are anti science and they make laws based on ideology instead of best available science. They distrust the "experts" preferring to hear those cranked out by their conservative think tanks, so much of their legislation is based upon faulty information or information that is just plain wrong. They are the new "Know Nothing Party".

They refuse to compromise or consider the opposing side, and most of their policies are simply the opposite of what the Democrats and Obama proposes, despite the merits or needs.
sunny2
sunny2
9 months ago: I see what you are saying. Last night I watched the President's speech and afterwards Boehner. The President needs support badly. Boehner is an out and out manipulator who looks like he wants it all.
I can't help remembering how when the people were calling upon the President, writing letters, and speaking out and begging him to be acknowledged how he and Pelosi ignored them. It was frightening to me that there was never a word said to the people who were looking to him for help. Hopefully, he sees more clearly. I think it has gone too far.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
9 months ago: @Altruist

Which Democrats depend upon millions of small donations rather than big donations from the fat cars? Are you referring solely to Obama's disposable credit card campaign? Now he has $35,000 per plate luncheons with the rich Democrats, and sells $10,000 souvenir photos of himself.

As for the rest of the Democrats, they get into office the same way they always have. By hook or by crook.

"...Republicans...anti-science..."
I guess you're talking about global warming, since I can't think of anything else in current legislation that is based on science, other than NASA, which I'm sure the Republicans aren't trying to kill.

As far as being "just plain wrong", the Democrats have had their fair share of that, Barney Frank and Fannie Mae comes to mind. Forcing health care reform through at an entirely inopportune time is another. Trying to implement value added taxes in the midst of a recession is a third. And the list goes on and on.

"They refuse to compromise..."

There is real compromise, and then there is offering a compromise that they know will be rejected, just for the showmanship. They can capitulate on a thousand points, and refuse to budge on a core issue, knowing the Republicans won't accept it due to that one big point, and then go around saying "We tried, we really tried." And the Republicans will bluster and defend their position.

It's all a big act, and the major players in Washington are in the play. When the Super Congress http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2... gets established, they won't have to play these WWE Smackdown games any more.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: Al, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here. Democrats are subject to at least the same amount of special interest influence (maybe even more). Between the labor unions, ACLU and groups like Brookings Institute Democrats get just as much pressure as Republicans do. Nobody in either party is immune to this, especially since approximately 75% of time spent in office if fund raising for re-election. The average cost of a Senate election is over $5 million, a House seat costs about $1.4 million. The Presidency...in 2012 who knows...maybe $1 billion???? For a House member they have to raise nearly $2000 per DAY in order to fun their re-election campaign...that is a lot to raise in one day. For the Senate that number is nearly $3,000 per DAY for 6 years in order to get re-elected. And yet we wonder why they don't read bills and are always on TV...

As for the donation practices of republicans vs. democrats...More than half of the $750,000,000 that Obama raised came from donations of more than $2,000. While I don't agree with Republicans on most issues I will say that filibustering is not something unique to the Grand Ol' Party. The refusal to compromise comes from the fact that in order to do so, both parties would have to "hurt" their biggest supporters. Reduction in the entitlement programs hurts the working class. Tax hikes on the rich..."hurts" the rich. While you and I may see the fairness in the ultra wealthy having to pay their fair share (more than the normal folks) the Republicans don't see things this way.
Don Smith
Don Smith
Fairview, TN
4 months ago:
I could not agree more..Its way out of hand..The richest person wins and that doesn't equate to the best person winning .. The middle class will never get a fair shake when politicians only cater to the money....Take the money out of it , create a fair playing field... The end result is superior representation..Or at least representation which is more than we get now...Our elected officials represent those who have and/or are willing to give money..Mine was a simple statement yours is a full tilt plan.... I like it...

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