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Brendon O'Connell, Hate Crimes Followup

Posted 33 months ago|108 comments|4,548 views
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Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
Yesterday, I reported to an American audience a legal case that is widely known of in Australia. A man named Brendon O'Connell put up anti Jewish diatribes on You Tube, for which he was charged with hate crimes under Australian law. I got two replies, one to Rudistettner.com and the other on Rantrave.com. Both comments took issue with my conclusions. Both comments raise serious questions. Both comments came from members of the Perth Jewish community and offer background not mentioned in the mainstream media. Gedalia responded as follows.

"I have had a personal encounter with Brendan - not pleasant. He has physically threatened people, and is quite capable of crazy actions. I agree that a person should not be arrested for their attitude. However when that attitude is expressed in a way that is potentially harmful (in a very real sense) to other people, then the situation changes. As the article notes, only 2 people have been charged under this legislation, showing that it is only applied in instances of absolute necessity. You only need to watch his latest video posting to see that in this case, the charge was quite justified"

On Rantrave.com, Perthguy posted the following reply.

"And I have news for you. Hate crimes have taken place. This lunatic has threatened the lives of men, women and children in the Jewish community, personally, by phone and email. On the very night he was charged, he rang a Perth based Jewish centre and told them he was coming around to "finish them off". The centre, which was full of children, had to have a police guard. This is beyond harassment. This guy hasn't just made videos out of the blue in the background, like the media is making out. He's being assaulting and threatening to kill Jews, in person, by email and by telephone, for almost a decade."

Both Gedalia and Perthguy rounded out the picture with accounts of a ten year campaign of harassment by O'Connell. Non stop harassment, assaults and even threatening the staff and children in a day care centre are criminal behavior. The presence of a police guard at the day care centre is proof that the public suffered expense. The fear and anxiety suffered by the Jews of Perth is no different than that of a girlfriend or public figure who is being stalked by an angry ex love or fan. Threatening physical harm is not and never was "protected speech." It is one thing to post on You Tube or a blog one's anger at Jews, Catholics, African Americans or Chinese. It is another matter entirely when one starts harassing strangers who belong to a group against whom one nurses a grievance.

Given the reports from Gedalia and Perthguy, I believe that it is proper for Brendon O'Connell to be facing possible jail time. But I still take issue with which of the existing laws were used to bring him to justice. Furthermore, it should not have taken ten years for Australian legal authorities to provide relief from O'Connell's outrages. A bad law can have a desired outcome and unforseen negative consequences. Hate crimes laws can be used to stifle the political free speech of individuals who have no intention of doing violence.

Orianna Fallaci, the late great Italian journalist wrote books and articles slamming radical Islam and the violence committed in the name of Islam. Not long before her death, legal charges were filed against her in France for "hate crimes."

In San Diego, a group of lesbians and agnostics has sued the Boy Scouts for hurting their feelings and self esteem and calling for the city to throw the Boy Scouts off land they lease from the City of San Diego to run a camping facility and an aquatic park. No one who filed the lawsuit had been to either facility or suffered any sort of discrimination there.

Great Britain has now banned Michael Savage from entry for the sole crime of runnning his mouth in front of a live microphone.

A British diplomat Rowan Laxton faces felony hate charges for mouthing off against Jews and Israel while exercising at a gym. The gym would have been within their rights to revoke his membership. The foreign service would have been within their rights to fire him. (Although his opinions are probably quite normal in the diplomatic service. )

All of these instances of the use of hate crimes laws create disturbing precedents for regulating speech. The possibility of progressive encroachments upon the boundaries of permitted speech is very real and very disturbing. Such laws even provide cover to prevent protests against human rights violations in Arab countries.

Brendan O'Connell should have to face the Australian justice system and the people he has harassed over the years. But the hate crimes laws used to stop him are like medicine that cures a disease and kills the patient.

A proper outcome for the Brendon O'Connell case would be for him to be taken out of jail, back down to the judge and back to jail on charges related to his conduct rather than his thoughts. There are enough laws to protect the people of Perth without hate crimes laws. These laws should have been invoked ten years ago to stop Brendon O'Connell in his tracks. And they should be used today as well.

Reprinted with permission from Rudistettner.com
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Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
33 months ago: Once again, I must protest. The idea of Freedom of Speech has never been absolute and you know it. One has never had the right to commit libel or slander. One has never had the right to shout "fire" in a theater that was not on fire.

It is one thing to have an opinion and another to advocate hate. Thank goodness there are those among us who would fight to protect the Freedom of Speech as you so admirably do. But, also, thank goodness there are those who know the difference between the right to speak and the right to harass and abuse that right. The pen and spoken word can be more harmful than the fist. Nobody has the right to shout racial epithets at people walking down the street.
33 months ago: "One has never had the right to commit libel or slander. "

It's against the law to commit libel and slander against an individual. Groups aren't protected under the law as groups don't have rights. Only individuals have rights.

The fellow in question should be prosecuted for his threats and harrassment, not for his thoughts.
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
33 months ago: Runcible: I didn't say that groups were protected. All I was suggesting is that Freedom of Speech has never been an absolute in the United States of America.

"Mr O’Connell is alleged to have posted a 10-minute video on You-Tube, where he taunted a young Jewish man outside a South Perth shopping centre which was hosting a 'peaceful rally', calling him a “racist homicidal maniac. He also speaks directly to the camera outside the Belltower, warning Jewish people “your days are numbered†and “I will put you in the camps with the rest of themâ€."
source: http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=141505

No one is suggesting he be punished for his thoughts. If he is found guilty, he will be punished for his actions inspired by hate. Making a video of one's verbal assault and posting it on YouTube™ would seem to be the very definition of a violation of the law which "outlaw[s] the publication, distribution or display in oral, written or pictorial form of material that is threatening or abusive and intended to cause hatred, contempt or ridicule." – same source.

33 months ago: "All I was suggesting is that Freedom of Speech has never been an absolute in the United States of America."

Ignoring the fact that this story takes place in Australia, freedom of speech is written into the US Constitution, meaning that speech can never be legislated by the Federal government. Of course, incitement, slander and libel are always crimes.

"It is one thing to have an opinion and another to advocate hate"

Hate isn't a crime and if it is, it means that we live in a tyranny. For example:

I hate Israel and all of Zionism.

Should any of what I just said be made illegal?
Rudi Stettner
Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
33 months ago: There are classic examples of speech that is forbidden under American law. There were inflammatory broadcasts over the radio in Kigali, Rwanda which incited and mobilised murderous mobs.
The second would be a scammer who uses speech to induce someone to give up their money to a scheme of fraud. Bernard Madoff and Nigerian scammers come to mind.
It is critical to maintain legal distinctions between objectionable (according to some opinions) speech and injurious speech. The point I was trying to make is that using the right legal basis to prosecute a crime has critical ramifications. According to the criteria I just briefly described, your statement about Israel and Zionism should spark debate rather than legal action
33 months ago: Rudi said: "It is critical to maintain legal distinctions between objectionable (according to some opinions) speech and injurious speech."

Well stated. I fear that line is being lost in the US as we speak. It's already been lost in much of Europe and Australia.
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: I have yet to examine the facts, here on the ground in detail, to know about this case, however given the usual overreaction of jews to any criticism of Israel they do ask for extreme reactions. I recently was subjected to an investigation and questioning regarding my own Youtube videos, and I dare anyone to find anything threatening or hate speech in my videos. Yet due to an anonymous claim I might be a danger to the chosen ones, I was subjected to a full thoughtc rime investigation, which would have been very traumatic for most people. I made a vieeo about the experience, and I challenge anyone to watch it and get an idea of how rotten things have become.

youtube.com/user/RabbitNexus
33 months ago: In reality we can debate the finer points of definitions and distinctions between thus and thus but alas the reality remains...the subterfuge the jews regularly use of crying 'anti-semite' whenever someone points out the crimes their race is committing continues to be an effective method of silencing speech. Look up Dr Fredrick Toben at www.adelaideinstitute.org
The zionists are worse than the nazis were and anyone who does not speak up about the atrocities is guilty of the same crime by acquiescence. There is a growing movement of people who are aware of the extent of the covert activities and agendas of many wealthy and powerful jews. Some people take the matrix's blue pill and settle into a comfortable existence in their world of denial while others choose the red pill and live on their feet rather than their knees. Don't get caught up in intellectual debates when the world is near breaking point - you look like Nero fiddling while Rome burned!
33 months ago: shadow. Are you working both sides of the line?

http://www.rantrave.com/Rave/Time-for-Palestine-to-Exist.aspx

Forgot...Stupid Americans...
33 months ago: Man the reply to my questions on

http://www.rantrave.com/Rave/Time-for-Palestine-to-Exist.aspx

are telling. shadow. read.

http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/The-Ironic-Hopes-of-James-Dobson.aspx

take a deep breath.
perthguy
perthguy
Australia
33 months ago: I'd just like to make clear to Americans once and for all - this act took place in Australia. Australia has no "Freedom of speech" law.

The *only* constitutional rights Australian's have are (there's only 2 of 'em):
1. The right to vote.
2. The right to a trial by Peers.

Considering we had a referendum her in Perth (Where Brendon lives) today, I suspect he's going to exercise both those rights in the space of a few days...
perthguy
perthguy
Australia
33 months ago: Incidentally, thanks for the clarification follow up.

Obviously, I hope this guy goes a way for a long time. Not because I oppose his views, which I do, or because I am offended by his video, which I am - but because I believe his history *outside the actions of these videos* shows him to be a clear and demonstrated threat; a ticking time bomb if you will, that I don't want going off in my (or any) community.
33 months ago: perthguy said:"I hope this guy goes a way for a long time...."

People should go to jail for what they MIGHT do?

Are you serious?
Rudi Stettner
Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
33 months ago: I am struggling to maintain my accustomed level of civility after reading the comments of "contained shadow". The body count of the wars involving Israel are a tiny fraction of those involving the Congo, Sierra Leone, Sudan and other countries in sub Saharan Africa. The civility of the Israelis towards their enemies in war has been well documented. Contrast this with some of the horrific atrocities committed in other wars throughout the world from 1948 when Israel was founded until now. I follow a hybrid fusion of "contained shadow's logic and plain hard statistics. Unless she can point to past instances of her public, written protests against Congolese war atrocities then she must either plead ignorance thereto or plead guilty to (in her words)guilty " the same crime by acquiescence".
Since "contained shadow may well be ignorant of that of which I speak, here is a link about Congolese atrocities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP_o4pNIai4

There is one thing that shames me about the Israeli government. When Sami Kuntar was released from prison after almost thirty years in Israeli prison, he was in robust good health. He had bashed in the head of a four year old Israeli girl who he had dragged from her apartment. The last thing she saw in her short life was her father being shot to death by a group of chromosomally human individuals. I dearly wish that instead of him being returned to a hero's welcome in Lebanon that his body would have been returned in small pieces marinated in pig fat. If there is one thing the Jewish people are guilty of, it is turning mercy into a vice. It is unfortunate that Sami Kuntar and many others are living proof of such stupidity. If Israel should ever correct this defect in its character, I will celebrate loudly and joyously
33 months ago: Take a deep breath Rudi. I already caught that one working both sides in different threads and called them on it.
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: Rudi you make me sick.

Your type are always trying to deflect legitimate criticism of Israel with pointing the finger at others. If we examine some of those conflicts little buddy, we'll find YOUR PEOPLE deeply involved in it in some cases for one thing. However none of it justifiues or detracts from Israeli crimes.
The claim that the Israeli army tries to be humane and that it has some great reputation, is complete nonsense. It is not supported by any independent organisations and is inf act denied by them. israel is currently seen as the most outlaw country on earth. They have broken and are breaking practically every human rights law known to man and every imaginary moral one. These crimes have gone on now for sixty years, 1.5 million murdered, 4.5 million refugees and they have now begun to resemble nothing less than Nazi Germany with these latest government pigs.

In fact the Strategic Studies Institute report makes clear that it was israel which acted more like a terrorist rabble in Gaza and Hamas and Hisb Allah who performed less like guerilla armies and more professionally.
Many high ranking officers from various nations also commented the unprofessional and brutal israeli tactics. Of course some gutless Zionist puppets did spout the usual israeli lies about being a moral army, but next to the unsolicited comments by others these are hollow propaganda.
You conveniently ignore certain facts such as that Palestine is illegaly occupied and hence any retaliation by Hamas is legitimate defense, whilst all incuirsions by Israel are illegal under international law. It is israel facing the most serious war crimes tribunals, despite virtually every forum being biased in their favor.
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: Oh and Rudi, your relating of the details of Samir Kuntars actions are false.

The action was a kidnapping attempt not an assasination. It went wrong when the Israeli thugs came in shooting like maniacs as they do. I do not condone either actiopn but the kidnapping was in response to vastly more kidnappings by israel of Lebanese and others. As usual you people try to tell the story, absent any background or context.

You tend to cry victim even whilst you beat upon your helpless victims. It is nothing for Israel to bomb a neighborhood and kill and injure hundreds, then to claim the few shots fired at them afterwards were the reason they did it in the first place, only defending themselves. Sure only defending themselcves on stolen and occupied land!

You can weep crocodile tears all you like but was the scientist at the heart of all this not perhaps working on a biological weapons program, targetting Arabs? Why assume he was just some innocent victim? Oh yes, all jews are innocent victims of course..

Do you feel similar outrage when the IDF kicks in a families door and kills a mother and child or kidnaps children and puts them in gulags and tortures them? You are very concerned for one little Jewish girl, but are you also concerned that many many times more little Arab girls are being murdered, in cold blood by the Zionists?

Doesn't the fact that the Palestinians are the occupaied and the israelis are the occupier, ever filter past the "Oh poor us, we are such victims" mentality you sickos are cursed with? How can you see people who have nothing but rocks and virtually harmless homemade rockets to defend their homes with, up against the fifth largest and most modern military in the world, and call the victims the terrorists? How can you be so twisted, so hypocritical and so pig headedly racist?
Rudi Stettner
Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
33 months ago: Rabbit you are unbelievable. Police rush to the scene of a hostage taking. And they are blamed by you for police brutality. In the kangaroo court of your mind, Israel will always stand guilty. Thank you for exposing the transparency of your thinking. So I am one of "you sickos" despite my defense of the free speech rights of individuals such as yourself. This posting started off as a defense of free speech. It has deteriorated into a string of anti Israel comments, with you and others bashing a Jew who was defending their free speech. Any fair observer will look at this string of comments and get a good look at your thought processes. "Only" a kidnapping.... The nerve of those Jews trying to stop it!
Thank you Rabbit, for vindicating my conviction that free speech will paint YOU into a corner.
33 months ago: Rudi said: "I dearly wish that...his body would have been returned in small pieces marinated in pig fat."

Can we say the same of Ben Bernanke, Abe Foxman, Netanyahu, Michael Chertoff and all of the other criminals of Zion?
33 months ago: Rudi said: "Police rush to the scene of a hostage taking. And they are blamed by you for police brutality. In the kangaroo court of your mind, Israel will always stand guilty."

Why do you compare Israel to the police?
Rudi Stettner
Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
33 months ago: I want to tell my readers the truth. I really did not create runcible and Rabbit to make a point. There really are people like that out there. I will be happy to sit back and let them vent
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: Rudi, you are a Zionist. This means you support an illegal occupation and a historical collection of human rights abuses. Your pathetic attempt to muster some sort of pseudo outrage is about as disgusting as watching Pol Pot do the same. That is how most people see you, OK? That's just it, and it is based up not some religious crap, but upon 60 years of ethnic cleansing and human rights abuses. It is not hate to oppose Zionist hatred, not racism to oppose racism and it is not nazism to oppose Zionism, anti-Zionists would have naturally been antiNazis, for the same reasons. Unlike you we don't choose our cause based on ideaology and then force reality to fit. We choose morality and when we see the rerality of imorality we speak up. It is not violence to call for the end of Israeli violence.

You as any Zionist begin by twisting my words, you are a natural born liar, all Zionists are. I did not say anything about Police rushing to tIsraelis did what they always do, and came in shooting. That is because they don';t care who dies, so long as their Zionist cause is made to look right. In fact who can say what bullets killed whom? Israel has a perfect record of deceit and nobody seriously believes anything they claim. It isn't the point, my point, is that it was not a kidnapping that ocurred in a vacuum, it was a **** for tat response, but on a much smaller scale, for what Israel does all the time. I think the death of the child was tragic, unless he was a bioweapons chemist, the death of the scientist too. However there isn't much sympathy left over, after having cried tears for more 10'000 men women and even children held in Israeli gulags and and for the thousands of Palestinian children, killed not as a result of the actions of their government's occupation, but as a direct result of aggression from an illegal occupation.
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: . A good way to avoid making people hate you, and shoot rockets at you, is NOT to kill them first. Something Zionists are incapable of understanding due to their fevered Talmudist mentality.
Not the kangaroo court of my mind, very little man. The court of international law, states unequivocally that Israel is in breach of more than 60 UN resolutions, including the very one which brought their state into existence. Israel is well outside its mandated borders, is still building illegal settlements and has recently lowered the bar on atrocities and genocide for the whole world to see.

All that is required in the "court of my mind" is what would be required in the court of international law, you vicious, and wicked deceiver. That is simply a return to its mandated borders. Now as it happens the Arab world, including Hamas is prepared to accept a peace plan which allows Israel to keep the land they stole, right up to 1967, which is half as much again as the transfer agreement. if that is good enough for them, then it is not my business to demand more, so in fact, that is the only thing required in the very fair and reasonable sort of my mind.

Tell me Rudi, is that good enough for you, or else, how about you tell us how much more land they should be allowed to steal before calling it a day?
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: Your problem Rudi, is that in your opinion, Truth is an anti-Semite. Truth is not bashing Israel. If the truth is not very good for Israel, that my very, very, very small and pathetic man, is just how it is. Now indeed the poor old Nazis could have sat back and said oh how mean everybody is to us, or the Khmer Rouge too, but just like them, your own vicious and criminal murderous regime will eventually be brought to heel and you will wear the stigma of having been one of "them". So you should too. After WWII, to think that the people who started the war, who made the most noise about their own suffering in it all and then gained the most of anybody, a country, should sink to become nothing more than vicious evil fascist thugs and an apartheid terror state, is atrocious.

I also hope Rudi, that given the terrible crime of Samir Kuntar, that you are even more critical of that rotten Talmudist terrorist Baruch Goldstein. He killed many more people in cold blood and he killed them at worship. I very much doubt any of them were biowarfare chemists either. Are you disgusted with the murders committed by that piece of scum?
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: Both sides are killing civilians but:

* Israel is killing a much higher percentage of civilians.
* Israel has the accurate weapons, Hamas doesn't which makes this even worse.
* Most Palestinians decry the murder of civilians by their people.
* Most Israelis cheer the murder of civilians in Palestine.
* Palestine is under occupation.
* Israel is engaged in an illegal occupation.
* Palestinian violence is retaliation for the occupation and associated abuses.
* Israeli violence is for the purpose of keeping what is stolen.

Zionist hypocrite, blithely pretending your crocodile tears convince anybody. Foolishly assuming that the "Goyim" really are stupid animals and not as it happens, much more evolved people as a rule than the primitive Talmudist mind can conceive of. For myself since first beginning to doubt the things I was brought up to believe about Israel and its people, I found the the attacks and the name calling and hysteria; merely for questioning the suggestion Palestinians were sub human and had no rights to anything, so extreme as to be shocking. From that time on, about 8 years ago, until today the hysteria and the name calling and the endless harassment from death threats to stalking and attempted blackmail, have never ceased. It is precisely this extremism and the incredible hypocrisy which makes it harder and harder to maintain a controlled emotional stance.

Unfortunately for you Rudi, I am not a fool and I do not fall prey to my baser emotions, those one for example which make you what you are. I have stated a number of simple and logical factors here and left them for anybody of average wit, to consider and compare. As it happens I am quite happy that what I have written will put you and your type into the perspective which truth requires.

It isn’t support for terrorism to call Israeli actions terrorism.
-It isn’t hatred to to oppose Zionist hatred. Nor racist to demand that it follows international laws.

33 months ago: Well Rabbit I commend you on your energy and tenacity. These people are, however, obviously incapable of seeing beyond their own flawed logic. I've been accused of 'playing both sides' - the only reason I can think is because they can't comprehend me. Perhaps I am actually altruistic and feel that the world should live in peace. I am playing no side. I am standing up for principals. When I see certain people repeatedly violate good moral values I will start to label them - this is how human's construct their world. They do not bend to the PC Thought Police. The methods of arguing here are boringly blatant in their efforts to distract focus and discredit people - we are not here discussing any other atrocity (which incidentally is not 'milked' like the jews milk their claimed holocaust) hence I had not mentioned other atrocities. I was talking about the content of Brendan's actions. Where I come from calling a spade a spade is a sign of courage and honour when it perhaps puts one at personal risk.
33 months ago: Oh and by the way, this case is far from widely known in Australia!
The Main Stream (jew controlled media) don't give this or the Fredrick Toben case much airplay, if any.
33 months ago: You jews better pull your bloody people into line because these cases (excessive crying of 'anti-semite') whenever someone criticises elements of your religion or questions the bogus historical claims some of your leaders make, is only creating more members for the extremist groups you so fear!
The more you crack down on this and the more you crack down on Palestinians, the more people who will smell something is seriously amiss.
I don't want to see the world degenerate into a global 'solution' to the jewish problem as I know there are many good and decent jews as well as many stupid people of other races, but in reality, history shows us that this is what happens. You play a damn dangerous game when we now live in a global society and have such ease of communication and international travel!
We all just want to live in peace and harmony....leave people alone and stop expoiting, manipulating and oppressing them!!!!!!!!!!!!!
33 months ago: Shadow, I didn't accuse you of 'Playing both sides' I caught up trying to work both sides. To say that these people outside of your little sphere of knowledge are donig anything contrary to your hate speech only shows your real intent compounded. I am not a JEW and none of my ancestors were or have been JEWS. I do not hate JEWS or ARABS. I do not hate Australians. But I do think some have distasteful sides.


33 months ago: Your statement that I have a 'little' sphere of knowledge is designed to antagonise and belittle. My speech is not HATE speech - I do not hate anyone either. I state the truth. You have been programmed to label any criticism of jewish people as HATE.
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: Shadow, tell me about it.:)

I am well used to these people and their ways. It helps that they tend to over reach a lot. They have an opinion of their own superiority which tends to make them blind to how transparent they are. Due to my own experiences with these thugs, I have decided to support Brendon, who is almost my neighbor, in this. I'll be headed into town shortly to see what I can find, there is a rally on today. The bottom line is, I cannot find anything remotely like what he is accused of, but having been in the news myself before, I know that we'll be lucky if 5% of that reporting was accurate. They tend to state the police accusations as fact, right at the start, and then refuse to correct anything claiming it is wrong for them to go into details due to the case being in play.

I have gathered evidence of the local mediqa bias for Zionism over the years and I have evidence of Jewish Zionist hate crimes, including slander, stalking, blackmail and death threats. I am going to try and make my voice heard as someone who almost ended up where Brendon is myself.

I for one have never called for the death of anyone, never said Israel should be destroyed and I respect and admire Jews who stand against the false Jewish cult of Zionism. The Talmud is a filthy book and any Jew who follows it, is of course a beast, this is simply a moral choice because I object to murder, theft and pedophilia among other tthings.

True Torah Jews are marvelous people as a rule. Zionism could be called "Hatism"
Aussie Mick
Aussie Mick
Australia
33 months ago: Simple facts Brendon O’Connell was at an IGA Store Filming fruit labelled 'Product of Australia' but the fact was the fruit in question was a 'Product of Israel'. No charges have been made against the store for mislabelling or false advertising. Two Jewish students approached Brendon O’Connell and took a photo of Brendon without asking permission. Brendon then turned the camera on these men and stated asking question. It then became a heated debate. Then one of the Jewish men attacked O’Connell and attempted to smash his camera. O’Connell Defended him self and slapped the Jewish across the face. The Jewish man then started yelling to others “HE (O’Connell) just hit me†O’Connell replied “ If you touch my camera again I will do more then that†No Charges have been made against the Jewish man for assault.
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In my book Brendon was within his right to defend him self.
Brendon was also in his right to make comments to these Jewish men about his beliefs.
Brendon was also within his right to broadcast evidence of the incident on the Internet.
Brendon is now facing charges that could see him in prison for a longer term then murderers, rapists and child molesters serve.


Please View the two links below and judge yourself

Part1
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9abyj_fruits-of-zionism-part-1_fun
Part2
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9ac53_fruits-of-zionism-part-2_fun
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: I was in court yesterday with Brendon. First time we met. We only spoke briefly, and I established that he has as I suspected been subjetced to the worst Zionist harrassment over several years now. What is missing formt he whole media account, is the provocation to which he has been subject. I am quite familiar with it all, because like Brendon, my address, phone and name are all known to the Zionists. The following is typical and is a tatse of what I have had.
Stalking all over the internet, such that no matter where you post, they soon find you and create a big ugly scene with you, everywhere they find you. They don't care how nasty, vile or disgusting they are, because the whole thing is to blacken you by association. If you don't just dissapear and leave them to crap all over you behind your back at yet another site, then you soon get blocked along with the stalkers because it is too hard for people to figure out this isn't two morons fighting, it is one moron attacking another person without any limits. Having ones name, address and phone number, mobile and land line and work numbers, all spammed across hundreds of youtube videos and other web sites and the message included can be a filthy libelous one, typically calling you a pedophile and it also can include false statements attributed to you and a call for you to be killed. Direct death threats are of course common and these can be public, detailed descriptions of IDF snipers supposedly visiting your country and of course this libel and calls for your death, as well as your personal details, is open to the whole world to see and respond to. At this point we are talking about a very serious crime. Despite many death threats and despite many death threats and several complaints to the police here, the useless waankers did nothing at all, yet even a twisting of angry words turned into a vague taunting threat, are enough to have the subject investigated and charged if the "victim" is a chosen one.
Rabbit
Rabbit
Australia
33 months ago: The filthy language and the threats to rape your mother, wife and daughters is of course regular fare. I also got threats to kill my pet rabbit and many, many phone calls. Once these were hatef illed and threatening, but I use an air horn to hurt their ears so now they just ring up and hang up again. ALL DAY and ALL NIGHT long sometimes.

All of this is the response to my measured, fair and mostly unemotional criticism of Israel and of world Zionism. When I asked Brendon if he'd been subject to anything like it, his voice cracked a little and I recognised he has probably been through even worse than I have with them. I have the advantage of being very experienced in the law and someone with a very formidable repuation who the law has already decded it would prefer not to get itself burned on again, by coming after me for no good reason. They say "I fought the law and the law won", well I fought the law, and it was a draw!

The truth in all this is that Brendon has been the victim of Jewish hate crimes. The foolish sheep in society need to see what Jewish hate crimes are and the least I want to see here is a light being shone on Zionist hate crimes against anyone who criticises Israel or its nasty self worshipping people..

Not sure exactly what Brendon's plans are, but if he will take up my offer, he will beat these charges. I have the best barrister in Perth as my own and I he will take the case on. I spoke briefly to Brendon but its up to him to take up my offer. He is broke, and has no representation at this point. He may also be planning to be a martyr, some of what he said has me wondering. I hope not, because beating this charge in such a way that the true criminals are spotlighted, would be the best victory.
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33 months ago: Oh yes another thing the Ziopaths have done, is to indulge in direct commercial blackmail. They made direct threats to slander my business and the product we make, all over the internet, unless I shut up and stopped criticising them.

These threats were ignored and of course promptly carried out. Due to trade agreements between our two nations, that was the most serious crime actually and if our cops were not c*cksucking whores of Zionism, they would have acted on that and, there should have been diplomatic action taken.

The sort of Zionist Jewish harrassment which is typically used against anyone who criticises Israel is usually far more serious a crime than any pathetic hate crime laws. They commit the worst internet crimes themselves in an effort to radicalise and stir up hatred, because this hatred is what they thrive on. They want to be hated, they LOVE hate and they love the feeling of all that hate washing over their scaly backs.

Brendon's mistake, if it was a mistake and not deliberate, was to allow himself to be antagonised to losing control. Even when accosted by the creep, he should have simply taken enough details to deal with it later. I would have. I might have paid a couple of thousand dollars and had justice taken out without my direct involvment even. Got that Ziocreeps? Mess with me and you will really learn how to dance..
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33 months ago: What's up Rudi, did you realise you are up against more than you can chew this time you evil son of a ****? Is it a bit hard when people won't be cowered by your empty devils rhetoric?
33 months ago: Rabbit, thank you for being there for Brendan. You know where to contact me if there's anything I can do...and I have other contacts who are keen to offer support.
Take care and stay strong and true! I know you will.
The truth shall set us all free.
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33 months ago: Let Rabbit's comment stand for the record. I posted a defense of the free speech rights of an individual whose opinions I find repulsive. This is a principled position. The thanks I get is to be called a name that rantrave does not allow to be posted. I would like to hear the other side of the story. I am getting the picture of what kind of people I am dealing with. Keep posting your vitriol. What you say about me says more about you than it does about me.Most of my posts have nothing to do with Israel. You talk about nothing but Jews and Israel. Are you really undercover Zionists? Are you secret Jews?I wonder.
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33 months ago: There is no comparison between calling someone a name which means no more than I find you to be an unpleasant and wretched man, and the celebration of an offense against free speech and morality, and much more besides.. The stink of deception is strong too I must say.

Brendon has been subject to a level of personal attack and provocation over years now, which I have already referred to, yes, let the record stand indeed!

Stalking, death threats, unnatural and filthy language, death threats, including by phone, threats to rape ones children, real and imagined, the same with wives, sisters and mothers, the level of abuse is unique to only one group of people on earth and anyone who has experienced it knows exactly what it is.

This is the part of the story absent, and so to the real provocations which led to what was nothing more than angry taunting words. Unless you are suggesting Brendon is the banguard of the Fourth Reich and there are some camps with gas ovens waiting for fresh guests? Then such obvious hyperbole is no more than angry words, NOT a threat. This is not a hate crime, it is a seriously harrassed man, who has done no more than oppose genuine war crimes, lies and skullduggery by a community alternates between boasting about its control of media and governments and denying it is so and anyone who says is should be arse raped in prison. You make me sick, Rudi and your false morality to. You and your kind are wolves in sheeps clothing and it is getting easier and easier to see you the more your bias and extremism arises.

The subject here is Jews and Israel little Rudi, or had that fact escaped your recall in your fevered imaginings of what you'd like to be happening to Brendon, the victim of Jewish hate crimes?

In the correct place and foreum Rudi, I talk about all manner of other things.

Cheers Rudi.
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33 months ago: among other typos "banguard" should have been "vanguard"
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33 months ago: I am waiting to get more complete info from the other side, particularly when O'Connell showed up at a Jewish school with issues about zionism. The fondness the commenters in this string show for profanity and insults shows up verypoorly against the standards of rantrave.com. Additionally, there are two threads of thought between which the commenterson this string veer unpredictably 1)Free speech issues 2) the alleged crimes of Jews and Zionists.
The singularity of focus on Jews by the authours of the comments is bizarre. It reminds me of a Winston Churchill quote. "A fanatic is someone who won't change his mind and won't change the subject."
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33 months ago: Oh the crocdile tears, oh "Poor widdle us" "Oh why do they always pick on us so?"

Here is another Winston Churchill quote Rudi, about Zionism.

"...it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested, would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. "

AND he sure got that right for sure. Rudi its really simple about the Jewish school and Brendon. It didn;t happen. A lot of lies are being told in this, several people who claimed to be Australians and witnesses were lying Israelis here for the purpose of setting him up and he was assaulted first by them. There is involvment in this of intelligence services and that almost certainly includes those arch deceievers, MOSSAD. I was in court and heard some interesting things and I can see why they wanted him shut up. He is a better person than all the scum who have been provoking and abusing him, that much is certain and he would no sooner threaten a child than any decent man. Those who have provoked him have been making threats against children though, this is quite common Zionist tactics, to intimidate their critics. I see you don;t have any sort of negative feelings about Zionist intimidation and crimes Rudi. That's why you are filth and a hypocrite.
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33 months ago: I have asked you and others for facts and sources. The alacrity with which you stoop to name calling is astounding.If the facts are on your side, you should be prepared to present them calmly. I hear a lot more self pity in your posts than in mine. Read them over. You will see I am right
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33 months ago: Thank you , by the way for the Winston Churchill quote. Although he is most often remembered for his dogged determination to defend Britain, there were other facets to his political persona. He was an ardent defender of Britain's overseas empire. He opposed India's independence and saw a global role for Britain as a colonial power. Although within Britain he defended democratic ideals, he expressed views of non whites that would not fly today.Below are some quotes to add to yours.

I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between communism and nazism, I would choose communism" - Speaking in the House of Commons, 1937.

"I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisonous gas against uncivilised tribes" - Writing as president of the Air Council.

"I do not admit...that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia...by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race...has come in and taken its place" - Churchill to Palestine Royal Commission, 1937.

"The unnatural and increasingly rapid growth of the feeble minded and insane classes, coupled as it is with a steady restriction among all the thrifty, energetic and superior stocks, constitutes a national and race danger which it is impossible to exaggerate...I feel that the source from which the stream of madness is fed should be cut off and sealed up before another year has passed" - Churchill to Asquith, 1910.


I do not pretend Churchill validates my views. He was a master of the English language. He was prescient about Nazism. But he was not a biblical prophet. I would have been surprised if it were to come to light that Churchill was a Zionist. Your quote does not surprise me. But thank you for bringing it to light
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33 months ago: Thankyou for proving how Zionists tend towards dishonesty and hypocrisy, Curbyourhate.

The video you refer to is an explanation why I do not ascribe to the hatred of such hateful people as Zionists, despite their extremism, hypocrisy and defense of the indefensible. Your twisting of a personal anecdote which relates how a best friend destroyed my company, my life and my family; through his greed and jealousy, and how it made me hate him so much that I felt like killing him for the time I hated him, into the typical vile simplicity of the hatred and murder in the heart of the Zionist, is proof once again of what any honest person faces when criticisiing Israel and its supporters.

The deliberate deception which is the modus operandi of the Zionist.

Anybody who sees my videos, can see I am not an angry man, I am a very controlled and measured man, who thinks and expresses himself clearly, eloquently and calmy. When I express anger, I do so effectively and I do not sink to such crudities as the Zionist invents.

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33 months ago: I also stated that I held this primitive emotion called hate, even more strongly for my ex wife, for the same period of roughly a year, and I also mentioned that we are best friends today, just a year later. The point was to illustrate that HATE, is an emotion which in my opinion can only exist for a short time in any soul without crippling it and that for me it had existed but twice and in each case as a reaction to someone who had once meant a great deal and who had now dissapointed me.

When anybody sees what I actually say, and what someone like you makes of it, then I think it is you who will not be taken seriously.

Just as Brendon's words were twisted by the real haters and those with deceit in their hearts, so to are mine being twisted by you.

My point and it is forever being illustrated by such as you, is that you will twist any of our words, even the most moderate and fair criticism of Israel or its minions into hate speech yet our words only are always a response to the geuine hate crimes, killing, kidnapping and torture of israel, and your attempts to pant us as the haters for opposing your hatred is worn thin.
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33 months ago: Curbyouhate, it is not a difficult assumption. The only people who want to make a big deal and go out of their way to paint Brendon O'Connell's words as anything of note, let alone worthy of being called a crime and one with serious jail time, is a hater of a rare breed, one which is familiar to anyone who kows as a Zionist. Brendon is a target of Zionists, and Rudi until now was the only one to whom I addressed anything. Your response against me, in your first post, based as it was on a deliberate falsehood, typical in its format once again of but one group, the Zionist, also makes my assumption vastly more solid.

My videos, with my face and words are avialable for anyone to see exactly what and whom I am, and your ranting assertions, which I am stating are pure hate propaganda, can be seen to be such, by anyone who cares.

You kosher boys and girls always fail to realise ONLY the Zionist can behave with the same level of chutzpah and sleaze. That does include the Xtian variety, Zionism is a sickness and it tends to make its sufferers into people so filled with hate, that this becomes the focus of their lives. They think that pointing out real and imagined hate in others is a way to disguise it, but it is you obsessed with hate. Brendon was subject to Zionist hatred for criticising their crimes. he spoke out in anger, NOT hatred and for this he is subject to unbridlbed hatred. you call all who defend him haters yet it is hatred we oppose. I don't hate you, as I said on my video you aren't worth it. You're like a wicked child to me, not an evil adult. Unless you were actually weilding weapons against innocents, like the IDF terrorists, then you're just a dumb sap.
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33 months ago: Hardcore Zionist is a tautology.

Zionism is a hardcore, racist philosophy, as confirmed by the UN and various moral leaders by the way. Just as Nazism is a hardcore racist philosophy. There are no hardcore Nazis, just Naqzis, just as there are only Zionists. To support israel is to be a Zionist, which is to ignore war crimes and human rights abuses to focus on a twisted interpretation of the legitimate resistance of the opporessed. To object to Brendon's words, which were an obvious reaction to massive provocation of a truly hateful nature, and ignore the content of his, and mine and others' message and call us names in lieu, is Zionist and it is not an assumption.

All Zionists support baby killers and murders and hateful thieves. Your desperate attempt to draw the conversation aay from these facts is Zionist also. I never met a Zionist who admitted it, if they could pretend to be anything else, but definition of Zionism is support for a country which stands lowest in approval rating in human rights and trust the world over.

It isn;t an assumption that only
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33 months ago: Firstly I note with satisfaction that you are despite your typically wide eyed phoney denial a Zionist, ding ding, a prize for the rabbit. The tone and content of your post leaves no further room for denial of that fact. Thankyou.

Israel is not a homeland for THE Jews, it is a homeland for SOME Jews, particularly those prepared to subscribe to a recent and bastardized false version of Judiasm which is in fact an apostasy. The begging question leaves out the more important consideration of why “The Jews†should even have a home land. Where is the apartheid only homeland of “The Catholics†of “The Hindus†or The Buddhists†or indeed “The Christians†or “The Muslimsâ€, no state other than Israel demands a religious right to existence and it doesn’t even begin to justify stealing the genuine, not phoney or imaginary, but real live genuine in use, homeland of the Palestinians. That aside, you are as usual for a Zionist refusing to deal with the actual criticism and trying to twist my words into something they are not. Being an extremist you pretend your opponents are extremists and unlike Brendon little man, I am not easily made to lose my temper and least of all by such transparently obvious creeps as you. I do not oppose the existence of Israel you nasty piece of work, nothing I have ever said, here or anywhere suggests I do so. It is an illegal state, a terror state, one built upon lies and terrorism, and this is a historical fact. I condemn it and its supporters for this fact but I do not call for the end of Israel. Done is done and Israelis exist today where they are.

Pay attention you reactionary and dishonest excuse for a man, (I assume, for once I assume loosely, that you are a man, even though you behave like a worm)…
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33 months ago: I oppose Israel’s imprisonment of more than 11,000 civilian men, women and children, in camps which have severe torture as a legal component, as just one of the examples where Israel is unique in the “Western Worldâ€
I oppose the illegal and documented brutal occupation of the remaining Palestine, of which the Zionists hold every square inch of what they were so generously given in 1947, without any of it has ever been under threat by anybody, in that time despite the endless lies to the contrary by your sort. I oppose the illegal settlements which infest and continue to grow upon illegally occupied Palestinian land, despite UN resolutions and international outcry and now even the corn-holed USA is protesting about.
I oppose the Israeli checkpoints which exist to torment and destroy the lives of Palestinians and I tire like anybody of conscience does of the endless and shameless and preposterous excuses and lies which emanate from the state of Israel and its revolting and ignorant supporters.
I sicken of a state founded on the suffering of a lot of people for the policies of a few elite of their number, now using a special privileged position in world opinion to sink to lower levels of human bestiality than those who tormented those same people in their turn.
I’m sick of the lies, the theft and the killing, is that too hard for you to understand and is it so hard to answer for these crimes that you must silence all opposition with name calling and extreme twisting of their words and intentions? Are you so filled with hate that hate is all you see or can understand? I think the answer is obvious.

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33 months ago: If you support Zionism which is an expansionist cult which has as its intention not defense but a continuing expansion and consolidation of thefts, then you support “baby killers and murderers and hateful thieves†The land theft is documented. The settlements are illegal, every last one of them, past, ongoing and future. Not to mention the money which is stolen, the aid which is stolen, the taxes which is stolen and the homes, machinery and wells and often other assets which are stolen when the settler thugs move in. Murders, had you not counted the more than 1.5 million Palestinians murdered by Israel in sixty years? Maybe you didn’t think the average of several murders of Palestinians a day, compared with months and even years between Israeli deaths was an issue I suppose? Of course, not I forget the Zionist one eye. What about the 1,500 murders committed in Gaza in a couple of weeks of Jewish blood letting, carefully designed to coincide with religious festivities, AND (showing that jewish genius) an election in which popularity is measured by militancy AND the amount of blood you can show for your efforts. It has been confirmed by none other than soldiers who took part, that babies were murdered. Shot point blank through the chest as shown by doctors photos from hospitals. Hundreds of children many babies, were MURDERED Curbyourhate. Would you prefer I used another word maybe? Should I say they were killed? Too harsh? Maybe they were hurt very badly? No Israel wouldn’t hurt hundreds of babies very badly you say, maybe what this was could be described as having um, harmed hundreds of babies? What word would you like to describe the shooting by soldiers of a baby in the arms of women holding white flags? Oh of course the women were shot too. What would you call it oh you who has so little hate it would seem?

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33 months ago: I expect to be taken seriously you sad little mud tosser because I am not afraid to put my face and even name to my words, and unlike you I rely on facts and reason not stunts and begging to make my case. I for example prove my assertions when such as you has the temerity to challenge them from the utter degradation of your almost non existent profile by comparison.

EU poll: Israel 'biggest threat' to world peace
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35383

A European Commission opinion poll claims 60% of Europeans see Israel as the greatest threat to world peace... The poll surveyed 7,500 people in 15 EU countries who said Israel was a bigger threat to world peace than Iran, North Korea and the United States.
Like I said, Israel is bottom of the polls and has been for years. Most people are not stupid even if their leaders and you want them to be.
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33 months ago: Accurate, contextual answers to specific questions are the center of my "internet being" as such, funny one, but since I am not an anonymous coward, and my already linked site leaves no secrets about my interests, your question is as disingenuous as all the rest of your ranting. Thus when I answer a query regarding my position on Zionism/Israel, I find it difficult to answer it hinestly without reference to those subjects. The entire issue of Brendon's situation revolves around this subject, and it isn't Brendon who is an internationally revognised issue, as illustrated by the other posters here and the references I just gave you.
The real question isn't why I am only talking about these subjects, but why you seem to think these subjects should somehow be absent from the discussion or not given as much or much prominence?
You've demonstrated you're a supporter of israel, your every question is not a question but a typical Zionist false rhetorical device.
Why do you keep ignoring the facts and real issues raised to concentrate on intangibles and generalisations?
Unlike me, you have yet to even show you are human. :)
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33 months ago: You just love the bits of literary garnish, in preference to the content. How Zionist of you. :)
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33 months ago: Curbyourhate, a person who could for all we know be Rudi in sockpuppet, for your convenient arrival, putting your latest set of attempts to turn the disussion away from the subject at hand and onto the person, in this case myself, can you possibly stick with any of thew previous issues YOU yourself raised and which I answered, only to see you play the old bait and switch without any further response?

I thought you had issue with my assertions that:
a) Zionism is a racist, apartheid philosophy,
b) Supporters of Zionism are supoporters of baby killers murderers and thieves,
c) Israel is the most distrusted nation and top of the list of nations which threaten weorld security, according to the majority of the world's people. - A factor which goes a long way to answering your latest attempt to slither out of the reality with more empty questions like ink squirted by a retreating octopus.
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33 months ago: I have after all illustrated precisely why I have every right to make such claims as those three factors, despite your feigned astonishment, and am yet to see anything except a scuttling away from the issues YOU yourself raised, along with a string of ew things now raised in equally wide eyed innocence. Oh little crocodile, how charming you are not, despite your desperate attempts to look like a kitty.
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33 months ago: A typical example of your empty disingenuity, Curbyourhate, (what you mean is deflect criticism of Israel eh?), is this.

"Are you trying to say that making a video of yourself is relevant to anything? because it's not, Rabbit. "

No little deceiever, I was answering your assertion that somehow I was not to be taken seriousl.... and what I was saying, rather clearly too I think...is that since I have videos showing ME my face and my personality and much details are included in all that, then in contrast to the empty assertion by some anonymous made for the moment screen name, ie: yourself, I have all the credibility in the world.

You see little Zionist, it is all in the CONTEXT.
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33 months ago: In fact, given the fact I own a very substantial internet presence and that you are nothing but a name which conveniently popped up in the place of the loser Rudi when he was being well and truly flogged with his own words, and how you attempted at the outset anyway to deny the very things which took Rudi down, I'd say I have no need to respond further to you. I suspect you are Rudi, cowering behind an anonymous sockpuppet, with your feew hours old account. You yourself confirm I am anything but some anonymous wanker. Bye bye Rudi. Bad luck with the Talmudist hate fest old bean.
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33 months ago: Curby, Rudi like you had no response to anything once his initial bland assertion was challenged. You didn't answer any of those issues before, and you are not doing so now. You are simply making another bland denial.
Since you appear precisely like a sockpuppet, and have nothing else at all to identify yourself, beyond the convenient role you suddenly appear to play, no crossover even, then suggesting you're a sockpuppet of Rudi, is quite valid under the circumstances. You're anonymous and convenient in time and place, yep, you're probably a fake, it goes with your proven level of dishonesty. Trying to twist my words to mean what you want them to, tsk tsk. If you did the same on Youtube, then that would also be a valid claim. Of course anybody who knows Zionists on Yotube knows they all have dozens of Sockpuppets so a Zionist on Youtube...it goes without saying. You're all anonymous, all have one channel after another as each new lying channel appears. Been there before Rudi and you can prove me wrong anytime, your kind manages to assemble a backbone betwen them.

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33 months ago: a) 901,000 references to Zionism as a philosophy. tinyurl.com/o3sq9a
b)Supporters of Zionism, which is the "philosophy" driving the wars of aggression, the killings and terrorising of children, are supporters of such crimes. That isn't hard to understand even for a Zionist. Those Israelis who oppose these crimes for example do not call for the destruction of their country, but for the end of Zionism. The end of expansionism. Bland denial doesn't cut it, you support human rights abuses and war crimes by default, due to support of Israel.
c)I gave you two surveys, and one was only about a year old, I chose two widely separated dates, to show that this opinion of Israel is not new. There are many such studies and polls taken and many much larger too. The poll in 2003 was legitimate and denying polls have validity, when they give results you don't like, is transparently pathetic and an admission of weakness. It is well known that anti-Israel feelings have been growing year after year so it isn't hard to assume that Israel would fare even worse in any poll now. Pity you're a Zionist, or a sensible and rational man, would of course have to concede that point.

A survey in November 2006 concluded that “Israel is the Worst Brand in the Worldâ€; Global Research reported findings across 35 countries “that Israel is suffering from the worst public image among all countries of the world.†tinyurl.com/oqrsbg

Do read that whole article Rudi, it makes very clear just how unpopular Israel has become.

Now I expect you'll make more bland denials Rudi but I think unless you can come up with anything more than your endless denials and attempst to sweep the issues under the carpet, my work here is done.

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33 months ago: A reminder though, yes Curby/Rudi, the fact that I put my face to my opinions and statements of fact, the fact that unlike you little invertabrates I have a name and a face and are not hiding behind anonymous shells, despite it being people like me who is the target of Zionist violence, not the other way around, this does in fact give me credibility. Someone like you, a brand new purpose made account hiding behind an anonymous facade doesn't get to refute that, in the rational world.
32 months ago: Rabbit you derranged fool, watya been smokin?. You have not clue what Zionism is, what you dont realize is that it has no Philosphy or rules all it is is the belief in a homeland for the Jewish people. Your thoughts on Zionism have been contrived by your hatred of Jews simple as that. I feel happy about this in a way because as us Jews cause you so much pain it makes me smile when i think how sick your mind really is. Whatever sick things you say you already being punished for by just being alive aggagahahahah

Anyway here are my thoughts on the article

Theres a difference between saying you hate Zionsim and Jews etc. What O'Connel said in his video was that he wanted to take Jewish children away from their famalies and that he would accept those Jews who truthfully condemned their religion and to those who dont throw them in camps. You might believe that people should be free to preach hate but we should learn from History that there is a line that can not be crossed. For all we know O'connel could be another Hitler. I say stop the rot before it spreads.

And remember all you Jew hater "Universal Truth is not messured in mass Apeal"
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32 months ago: I think I'll define who if anyone I hate clown. If I say I don't hate jews, then I guess you'll just have to wear that, or else you come across as a bit desperate.

as for the rest of your attempt to put words in others mouths, what more can I say? Deceitful prick.
32 months ago: Whether you admit it or not you hate Jews. You see more people die in Africa in a day from civil wars, famines etc than the amount of arabs killed in Israel in a year. Where are your tears for them?? What about Sri lanka there governments been accused of war crimes to. Wheres your tears for them??.... the list goes on.

You see you have chosen which issues to ignore and which to latch on and use to spread your hate. Sure the situation in Israel isnt great and please god one day there will be peace. But targeting Jews and their right to a homeland is down to a deep down hatred of Jews. Although you might not admit it you a closet Jew hater. Whether you wear it on your sleave like your buddy O'connel did or disguise it with your BS we all know.
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32 months ago: You are such morons, I keep on saying it and I truly mean it. You've gotten so wrapped up in your deluded and twisted fantasies, that common sense is not common among you and even rational thinking appears to be beyond you for the most part. Or else you're just a sick little twerp trying to antagonise people to behave as poorly as your own kind.

The idea of a person who hates Jews, yet somehow wants to deny it, is amusing. The idea that you know better than I who I hate, if anybody (nobody actually) is ridiculous although in your arrogance you don't see it.

I hate Jews so much, that my favorite musician, is a Jew. Bob Dylan and so too a few more of my favorites like Paul Simon. I hate Jews so much that my favorite Middle east commenter, one of my favorite intellectual minds in the world, is a Jew, Norman Finkelstein,a nd although I don't have any truck with some of his crap, Noam Chomsky stands high in my opinion also. The only references I use to study the history of Palestine and modern day Israel are Jewish historians and academics, not least because they are all men whom I admire and because their accoutns are worthy and scholarly.

I hate Jews so much in fact, that I am putting a great deal of my own time and resources into fighting for the only means which will ever bring peace to that country and I see people who defend its unnacceptable and criminal actions as its greatest enemies. I do it not just for the lives of their victims, the Palestinians, but also for the lives of the Israeli people, who despite their deformed ideas and stiff necked attitudes, are humans and do have to live.
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32 months ago: Nobody I know of calls for the destruction of Israel, this lie is what you claim we are after, but no, we just want the destruction of Palestine to end.
It is not racism to deplore racism but it is incredibly stupid to call someone a racist for opposing the criminal actions of a country.
My favourite comedians include Jews, the first one who springs to mind is Jon Stewart. Given that Jews are such a small percentage of the population, it is amazing just how many of my favourite people in one field or another are Jews.

Now I do realise you think that your anonymous keyboard profile, your grand rhetoric somehow raises all your words above those mere mortal ones I post, but I do have to question you telling me what I believe.
After all, unlike you, I am not an anonymous keyboard warrior. I put my face in front of a camera, when my full name and home details are known also, and I speak exactly what is on my mind. Nobody I ever encountered suggested I sugar coat my words.
The truth is that people like you, Zionists, are the enemy of all mankind and you know it. You are the most dishonest people on earth and stalking, intimidation censorship and twisting of people's words to new meanings, is the entire range of tools in your box. Facts about the issues as such, Israel and its crimes are things you'd prefer were ignored to concentrate instead on trying to label people anti-Jewish. This ignores the fact that far from all Jews support Israel and far from all Zionists are Jews.

Any good person, whether they be Jewish, Muslim, Christian Atheist or any other belief system, is OK with me. I don't ask people's religion when I meet them. However any sort of Zionist is a primitive, paranoid, deceitful and deeply disturbed person. I have some in my family.
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32 months ago: ANY Zionist, of any religion or none, is a type of person which has to be eliminated altogether from the human race. It is my hope they will evolve and Norman Finkelstein gives reason for hope in a video I saw today even. If not and the choice is left between this small nation of racist and dangerous people, and the rest of the world, I'll push the button myself.

As for hate, that is a word which is so common from the lips of a Zionist as to be almost like breathing. Always you're telling people how much they hate you, yet nobody almost ever seems to say they hate you. How odd?

The only thing most ever say is, Israel must follow international law. That is of course the purest form of hate speech to any Zionist psychopath.

Brendon is not my mate. In fact I didn't find him very endearing at all, and I think he said some very foolish things in some of his videos. Sadly he did your cause more good than ours. Like others I have my suspicions about his motives also. However, I was aware that his own words were a reaction to much more serious abuse against himself. I am familiar with it myself. I have detailed the sort of criminal abuse by Zionists which follow any criticism of Israel and won't repeat it all here now. However when some stinking Zionist rings me up and directly makes threats to kill me, to kill my children and other disgusting threats, ON THE PHONE you arse, after I have done no more than criticise his country's actions, and I turn around and taunt him with gas chambers, tell me turkey, why am I the guilty one? Do I have a gas chamber?
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Australia
32 months ago: Did Brendon have any concentration camps? Of course not! Then I guess an honest man might have to admit, that his words were merely anger and frustration. Frankly I am surprised I have to keep reminding you creeps about this fact, but stalking, blackmail and death threats, online or on the phone are and always were criminal acts, long before these stupid thought crime laws you love so much. Of course normal people don't usually seek laws to stop them being taunted or criticised. However we normal people do tend to feel we should be protected from actual death threats for example. Nothing Brendon ever said or wrote that I have seen, amounted to a genuine threat of any kind. As for hate, nothing he or I ever said or indeed any normal person ever could say, would come close to expressing the sort of hatred which is on display any time anybody criticises Israel or its denizens.

So my support for Brendon is based on a fairness doctrine, not a direct support for all he said or did. Its about Justice little man, and it is precisely why in the history of the second world war, I and others like me, would have been the only friends the Jews of Germany would have had, if facts had been known to us. People like you, would probably have been ambivalent at best and certainly if you'd been German or in an occupied country, you'd have been denouncing your Jewish neighbours as fast as you could. Your type has not got the moral fortitude to make a principled stand against severe odds.

I can't find it in me to hate anybody, although I find some things hateful. As a Zionist this makes no sense to you, I also know this. You are as I have stated clearly and soberly, a complete moron. Most of you are actually.
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Australia
32 months ago: The claim that the media is demonising Israel, is the purest bull**** ever spouted even on this thread. The fact is that Israels actions are way beyond the pale and that they almost get a free ride from the media which makes a pretense of balance which only a complete idiot could be convined by, and I see anybody who believes everything the ZIONIST controlled media prints or spouts, as a complete idiot.

Perhaps you'd care to tell us how much of the media is cotrolled by anti-Zionists? Since more than half of the media is owned by staunchly Zionist Jews and even some that is not is owned by Zionists like Murdoch, I'd say that must be some pretty good weed you're smoking their oh one of the ironic name. I think you should Curbyourlies.
The problem with the Zionist is that he thinks he should be allowed to kill hundreds or thousands of civilians, shoot people at point blank, babies in arms even, and be given a free pass. When the media mentions something like it, even if it is typically watered down with selective words like terrorist applied to the government of the victims and usually making some remarks to the effect the IDF denies it all at the end, even then people like you start screaming that the media is demonising Israel.

The thing you need to do to stop this is not stop the reporting but stop the crimes.
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Australia
32 months ago: The second war against Lebanon which claimed MORE than 1000 civilian lives (The zionist media has been inching that number down ever since) and levelled much of Southern Lebanon, was planned more than a year in advance. It was not a response to anything unless that would be the humiliation of their expulsion by Hisb Allah the first time. It was purely revenge a well known concept among Zionists of course.

How do we know this? Because the Israeli PM and senior Israeli Army officers told us. :)

Now I can provide any number of sources and just to avoid the usual attempt to claim any source which isn;t adorned with a Menorrah as antisemitic, I caninclude one from Jpost if you want.

juancole.com/2006/07/war-on-lebanon-planned-for-at-least.html

guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/09/syria.israelandthepalestinians

When I ever get proved to be wrong about any claim I like to admit it myself, it tends to help credibility. I am always wondering how folks can spew forth something so bombastically then have it undone with a simple source showing they are mistaken, and yet maintain a dignified pretence. For it is only a pretence when you've been proved wrong but pretend you have not.
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Australia
32 months ago: Curbyourlies, you obviously have a far stronger need to define my stance and twist my words in order to make them comply with your own very familiar Zionist psychopathic outlook on life and all other beings.

I am supporting the right of people to live in peace, and freedom in their own lands, without facing kidnapping, imprisonment, torture and land confiscation and the demolition of their homes, ALL IN DIRECT DEFIANCE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.

I have defined precisely my wishes for Israel and that does not at any time include death, I specifically said I wish no death to anyone, I wish to see Israel follow International Law. What sort of a Psychopath must you be, to make that read in your fevered mirror of hate I can barely begin to understand.

Nothing that Hamas does or does not do, alters the fact that
Israel is engaged in an illegal and historically brutal occupation which has been described by moral leaders and many NGOS the world over, including Israeli ones, as Genocide. It doesn't change the more than 100 UN resolutions which somehow slipped past the ever present US veto; of which Israel is in breach. Nor, Curbyourlies, does it happen to make any difference to the illegal wall or the ongoing and VERY VERY illegal settlements.
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Australia
32 months ago: Curbyourlies

These are facts and devoid of the rhetoric which is all you have. You can carry on with your rhetoric about Hamas and rockets and all manner of things which exist only because of Israel's actions after all, but in reply all I have is statistics, dead, imprisoned, tortured, maimed. Civilians VS combatant ratios, tactics etc. All of these CRUSH by a factor of 100 up to 1000 times any argument in Israels favour. 99% of the worlds nations, including Hamas have offered Israel peace for many years now, based on the Arab peace plan. This plan would see Israel keep all it was given, illegally and free in 1947, and all it took up to 1967, leaving the Palestinians with less than half of what they were left at the start of this tragedy.

This fact alone, renders all your endless breast beating rhetoric and attempts to muddy the waters by calling black for white so often it confuses the issue; to rubbish.

I will just paste a section of a report which you will in your racist hatred, (supposed to be hidden with that deliberate veneer of wide eyed innocence), deny has any truth to it, simply because it is a Palestinian based org. The fact that no other org which had access denies any of it, or that Israeli orgs endorse it means nothing to you, that you'd just argue separately I know. I won't enter into a debate with you over this, I present it as a remnder of what is NOT BEING REPORTED IN THAT MEDIA YOU CLAIM IS BIASED TO ISRAEL.
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Australia
32 months ago: Besides vast destruction and mass population displacement, 313 children were killed among the 1414 who died over a 23-day period. Of the 5300 injured (many seriously), 1606 were children. In all cases, the vast majority were noncombatants.

Of the children killed:

-- most were at home or nearby;

-- around one-third were girls and the rest boys;

-- almost 15% were under age 5 and another one-fourth between 5 and 10;

-- the remainder were between 11 and 17;

-- the "overwhelming majority" were killed in densely populated residential areas;

-- 46% were killed in northern Gaza;

-- 38% in Gaza City;

-- 9% in Khan Yunis and Rafah and 7% in less densely populated areas.

Israel used conventional and illegal weapons. The former included missiles, artillery and tank shells, mortars, and automatic weapons.

Others included:

-- white phosphorous that burns flesh to the bone and can be fatal; it's use is prohibited in civilian areas;

-- flechettes that are 4cm long darts used as anti-personnel weapons; they penetrate to the bone and can cause multiple horrific injuries; up to 8000 of them can be packed into one artillery shell; on explosion, they travel at high speed in multiple directions up to around 300 meters; and

-- various other internationally prohibited weapons that PCHR investigations uncovered and condemned.

tinyurl.com/mcs9xb

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Australia
32 months ago: That was less than a months worth, Israel's New Years gift to the world and not even the most gruesome of Israels adventures. BUT as an aside considier this.

The casualties added up to more deaths from Palestinian "Terrorism" than Israel has suffered in the entire history of Palestinian resistance.........

Curbyourhate..indeed.
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Australia
32 months ago: In 8 years an estimated 8000 homemade rockets, mostly with no warheads delivered a few kgs of a explosives and killed 20 Israelis at most, not even all them were civilians.

In two weeks the IDF dropped and fired about 1.5 million tons of bombs and missiles and artillery shells onto the most crowded city in the world, an illegal closed concentration camp in fact by international law. This killed and maimed more than 7,500 Palestinians, in just two weeks. Instead of being a response to rocket fire, the truth was also that the Gaza attack was a culmination of Israeli breaches and not Hamas breaches of the ceasefire. Even after the Israelis broke the ceasefire they never even actually abided by anyway, since that included a lifting of the blockade, by killing 6 Gazans in a bombing raid, Hamas offered to return to the ceasefire that they had not breached at any time since its inception, and this fact is confirmed on the Israeli foreign affairs website, or at least it was last time I looked.

Like I said Curbyourlies...tsk tsk tsk.

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Australia
32 months ago: If Hamas had weapons to seriously challenge Israel, then there would be no war, peace would long since have been found. The only serious danger to peace in the ME, is Israel and the USA.

This is not difficult to prove even. When every year for many years now, close to every country in the world has voted on a peace plan which is known as the two state solution and it is simple, non-controversial and legal, every country, 99% the two exceptions every time? The USA and Israel.

Every representative of the Palestinian people in that time, including Hamas, has been included in that unanimous majority, except the USA and Israel.

That even a deliberate liar can hardly grovel his way around, although he could perhaps ignore it or maybe go for one more round by denying it, before I simply produce the references to that fact and throw in a great video by Prof Norman Finkelstein on that very subject as a bonus.

You have merely to ask you sweet and loving and honest soul. :)
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Australia
32 months ago: Side notes. Your name and behavior invites a serious leg pulling dear Curb. The irony is killing me, honestly, you wicked man, woman or thing, you should be kinder to an old rabbit than make it chuckle so deepli in its chest. You are of coure welmone to have fun with my name or whatever else takes your fancy, as a tactic or as I do as an amusing distraction whilst dealing with something which can for some otherwise amount to frustration. I'm aware that it must be distressing to have me so unflappable by any of it, including the other facets of the hounding. I invited it after all. I'm a kind of judas rabbit I'm sorry to say, but by the time you realise you aint getting any of this meat, you're in the net.

I don't do radicalised, not even when presented with the demon of hate in disguise. Your pretty mask does not deceive me demon. :) Methinks you merely lack the wit to make a bit of chit with it. :)

Secondly, the "quaint" practise of referring to what the entire civilised world calls ethnic cleansing, pogrom, massacres, may perhaps be called many things, if you are trying to protect some delicate six pointed sensibilities, but would you pleae show a little more decorum, and respect for human decency and at least give a passive nod to international law, and not refer to armed incursions into non offending civilians neighborhoods and killing by terms of that horrific toll above; as "fighting terrorists".

Nobody was firing at Israel, until Israel had made a good day's worth of bombing.
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Australia
32 months ago: Israel never observed the cease-fire to begin with. From the beginning, it announced a â